Was Kabutomaru as strong as Madara?

[SadSasuke]

If he was alive and tried to fight Madara, would he defeat him? That's something I've been wondering. Also, let's ignore Izanami, because I am talking about a fight with all their trump cards, and who would die first.

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One more thing! This isn't supposed to be a versus, I am trying to talk to you about their overall power, endurance and speed. If you want, you can say who would stomp who as something additional. Thank you!

 

[Neonian]

Depending if Madara still had that meteor and perfect Susano'o.

 

[-Sky-]

I highly doubt it. Sure, Kabuto can counter all of the sharingan techniques, but the Rinnegan is too much for him too handle.

 

[Genetics]

Rinnegan Madara would win. Kabuto was even scared of Obito's Rinnegan

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

No. Kabutomaru is on par with itachi, not madara.
Also, "Lets Ignore Izanami"
Thats a statement made by a butthurt Kabutomaru fanboy.

 

[Fodder#4]

A living EMS Madara lacking Kurama and DSM Kabuto lacking Edo tensei?

Yes, they are on the same level, though Madara is on the higher end of it. Kabuto lacks any large scale jutsu but is nearly impossible to beat... Unless you're around his level or have some amazingly strong jutsu... Sadly, like PS. EMS Madara is most likely stronger because of the destructive boost he has.

 

[SadSasuke]

No. Kabutomaru is on par with itachi, not madara.
Also, "Lets Ignore Izanami"
Thats a statement made by a butthurt Kabutomaru fanboy.

That's mean. I hate Kabutomaru, so I am not a fanboy, but as I said before, I am talking about all their powers. I wanted a summary of their complete powers and forms, not just someone telling me ''Izanami wins''. Anyway, you should be a bit more respectful.

 

[HiddenSound]

Is DSM Kabuto alone enough to beat EMS Madara? It could go either way but probably in Madara's favor.
With Edo Tensei? Kabuto low dif.

Against Edo Madara? Kabuto alone loses fairly quickly.
With Edo Tensei Kabuto wins high dif.

 

[ItachiStillSolos]

Is DSM Kabuto alone enough to beat EMS Madara? It could go either way but probably in Madara's favor.
With Edo Tensei? Kabuto low dif.

Against Edo Madara? Kabuto alone loses fairly quickly.
With Edo Tensei Kabuto wins high dif.

This U_U...............

 

[Mrmojo8484]

Too bad everyone here fails to give valid explanations. I don't see normal Madara beating him. They are saying he was scared if the rinnegan, but I fail to see how it would affect Kabuto.

Kabutos advantages in ANY fight:

1. Liquid form makes him impervious to any type of physical damage.

2. Dragon Sage sensory abilities+immunity to genjutsu (except izanami) due to sealed vision.

3. Crippling Dragon Orb tech with nearly no counter.

4. Extreme speed+heightened sensory abilities make him nearly impossible to hit.

5. Advanced versions of the sound 5 abilites.

This is just to name a few.

But let me get one thing clear before kabuto and madara fans flame war:
I'm not saying Kabuto WOULD win, I just,think he has the upperhand.

 

[DrProof]

A living EMS Madara lacking Kurama and DSM Kabuto lacking Edo tensei?

Yes, they are on the same level, though Madara is on the higher end of it. Kabuto lacks any large scale jutsu but is nearly impossible to beat... Unless you're around his level or have some amazingly strong jutsu... Sadly, like PS. EMS Madara is most likely stronger because of the destructive boost he has.

Perfect Susano'o is countered by Senpō: Hakugeki no Jutsu.

Tengai Shinsei, and all physical techniques are countered by Suika no Jutsu

Genjutsu is countered by

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(The retractable eyelids)

 

[yondaime4]

I dont see kabuto winning ever, mostly because hes so obvious, he has no long range jutsu, he has the sound genjutsu which could catch madara. but i jus dont see anyway kabuto could deal with a serious madara, i mean madara took out the 5 kage, left them sleepin like a worldstarr vid, kabuto without edos is slightly worse than oro and barely makes my top 10 (and thats being generous) not to mention madara is the #1 just dont see it.

 

[Fodder#4]

Perfect Susano'o is countered by Senpō: Hakugeki no Jutsu.

Tengai Shinsei, and all physical techniques are countered by Suika no Jutsu

Genjutsu is countered by

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(The retractable eyelids)

Doubtful. Hakugeki could counter any other version, but I doubt it will reach a Perfect Susano'o or it would have the same effect in an open area as it did in the cave.

And, Tengai Shinsei would practically splatter Kabuto across the battlefield. A meteor coming down at full force, no Gaara or Oonoki to stop it, will most definitely spell the end for Kabuto. But, that is irrelevent. EMS Madara lacks the move and it could possibly destroy him too.

 

[Princessu Kaaantchan]

Base Kabutomaru is enough to take on living Madara, he can't even counter the sound Genjutsu.

 

[DrProof]

Doubtful. Hakugeki could counter any other version, but I doubt it will reach a Perfect Susano'o or it would have the same effect in an open area as it did in the cave.

And, Tengai Shinsei would practically splatter Kabuto across the battlefield. A meteor coming down at full force, no Gaara or Oonoki to stop it, will most definitely spell the end for Kabuto. But, that is irrelevent. EMS Madara lacks the move and it could possibly destroy him too.

Tengai Shinsei against the Hozuki's technique would falter. No physical techniques can hurt the user my man.

 

[Fodder#4]

Tengai Shinsei against the Hozuki's technique would falter. No physical techniques can hurt the user my man.

If I recall, Tengai Shinsei is the Naruto games nicknamed version of the Meteor technique? Imagine, for a second, a meteor falling from the sky with nothing to buffer the blow. Like what happened with the Allied Division. Kabuto would be in pieces.

And you forget, he doesn't have the Hozuki's specific kind of liquidification . He

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his own, unique version. It doesn't have the same feats that the Hozuki could perform.

He can only use his own body moisture to perform this, dehydrating him would render it useless OR, the intensely hot and powerful force, such as a meteor falling from the sky, which would splatter him everywhere would do this.

Kabuto isn't putting himself together after that. Hell, his body would dissolve from that. Regardless of whether or not he tried using his this jutsu.

 

[yondaime4]

Too bad everyone here fails to give valid explanations. I don't see normal Madara beating him. They are saying he was scared if the rinnegan, but I fail to see how it would affect Kabuto.

Kabutos advantages in ANY fight:

1. Liquid form makes him impervious to any type of physical damage.

2. Dragon Sage sensory abilities+immunity to genjutsu (except izanami) due to sealed vision.

3. Crippling Dragon Orb tech with nearly no counter.

4. Extreme speed+heightened sensory abilities make him nearly impossible to hit.

5. Advanced versions of the sound 5 abilites.

This is just to name a few.

But let me get one thing clear before kabuto and madara fans flame war:
I'm not saying Kabuto WOULD win, I just,think he has the upperhand.

seriously kabuto has the upperhand?

1 amaterasu doesnt care about liquid form or any kind of hightened sense for that matter

2 madara can use genjutsu other than eye genjutsu, izanami is the strongest but not the only genjutsu able to affect enemies without using his eyes, i mean people other than uchiha use genjutsu

3 crippling dragon orb tech? now i know your a fanboy but damn wtf is that? still im sure madara could counter lol

4 im not sure who would be faster or stronger but i doubt the differance would be much either way.

5 sound 5 abilities? susanoo? id pick susanoo just sayin.

madara went toe to toe with hashirama, in their time there was no one who could compare to them and on top of that their generation imo was faaar stronger than narutos, i mean kabutos a boy madara is a grown ass man and he would slap kabuto to sleep. n by that i mean he has too many finishers for kabuto to even stand a chance. his fan is legendary his kenjutsu is legendary his chakra reserves legend...wait for it..dary.

i hate seeing people compare madara to other shinobi, madara fodderized the 5 kage and would solo anyone but hashi so no kabuto doesnt beat madara not even if madara is 80 years old and has one eye thats not his, hed still bust a quick finger genjutsu and then get kabuto to "service" his lower parts before kabuto even realizes its not oro in his mouth

 

[Mrmojo8484]

Doubtful. Hakugeki could counter any other version, but I doubt it will reach a Perfect Susano'o or it would have the same effect in an open area as it did in the cave.

And, Tengai Shinsei would practically splatter Kabuto across the battlefield. A meteor coming down at full force, no Gaara or Oonoki to stop it, will most definitely spell the end for Kabuto. But, that is irrelevent. EMS Madara lacks the move and it could possibly destroy him too.

I don't understand how the meteor or PS counters his ability to liquify.

But regardless, I agree with you. Imo, Edo madara trumps Dsm kabuto, Dsm kabuto trumps Ems Madara.

 

[Draphsin]

Assuming this is EMS madara?

Kabuto does not have the strength to take down madara

 

[DrProof]

If I recall, Tengai Shinsei is the Naruto games nicknamed version of the Meteor technique? Imagine, for a second, a meteor falling from the sky with nothing to buffer the blow. Like what happened with the Allied Division. Kabuto would be in pieces.

And you forget, he doesn't have the Hozuki's specific kind of liquidification . He

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his own, unique version. It doesn't have the same feats that the Hozuki could perform.

He can only use his own body moisture to perform this, dehydrating him would render it useless OR, the intensely hot and powerful force, such as a meteor falling from the sky, which would splatter him everywhere would do this.

Kabuto isn't putting himself together after that. Hell, his body would dissolve from that. Regardless of whether or not he tried using his this jutsu.

Then Kabuto uses Senpō: Muki Tensei. Controlling the meteor, since it is indeed inorganic. Madara jutsu would be his own death.