Nagato vs Itachi & Sasuke & Minato

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Yes. Bijuu chakra is much heavier and Bijudama is a much higher calibur jutsu, it would be insane to say OFRS was on the same level as a proper TBB.

I'm not even talking about a full one. When he started to gather the chakra to form even a small one this happened:
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No. Your just simple minded in the fact that neither compliment nor complement give any indication of equal. Thats just what you want it to mean. Even the dictionary disagrees

The dictionary agree's with me. If they both praise each other it means they are both the same level. It could of been Sasuke's tech praising Naruto's if they weren't equal; but no. They praised each other, perfectly.




The whole "my friend" argument. Inexcuseable. Because this was accurate right? ( ) when *********** got it right.

So you're saying overall *********** is better based off 1 mistake that MangaPanda did? Seems legit. Also, I think someone who speaks and understands Japaneese would know better than you.




Baku's suction + Wind Blades. Not equal. Your beating a dead horse, your just wrong.

Nope. The wind blades where just used to amplify Baku's suction. It didn't actually create a new jutsu that had a name. Try again.
 

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Foolish thread for making Itachi and Minato Edo. With these conditions thread fail

But if they weren't Edo, this would be worth diacussing more and I would give it to Nagato high difficulty
 

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I'm not even talking about a full one. When he started to gather the chakra to form even a small one this happened:
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He was attempting to create a full one.




The dictionary agree's with me. If they both praise each other it means they are both the same level. It could of been Sasuke's tech praising Naruto's if they weren't equal; but no. They praised each other, perfectly.

God. Go back to english class. Madara praised Hinata, They're not equals.





So you're saying overall *********** is better based off 1 mistake that MangaPanda did? Seems legit. Also, I think someone who speaks and understands Japaneese would know better than you.

Ok, my "Japanese speaking friend" says *********** is better.





Nope. The wind blades where just used to amplify Baku's suction. It didn't actually create a new jutsu that had a name. Try again.

Don't need too. Just because a combination didn't get a new name doesn't mean it wasn't a combo.
 

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He was attempting to create a full one.

How do you know?


God. Go back to english class. Madara praised Hinata, They're not equals.

We're talking in the context of jutsu, not people. It's saddening how you fail to grasp this.




Ok, my "Japanese speaking friend" says *********** is better.

Seriously? this is how immature you are?


Don't need too. Just because a combination didn't get a new name doesn't mean it wasn't a combo.

The wind was just used to amplify Baku's jutsu. It was the same jutsu, just amplified. Naruto and Sasuke's combo created an entirely new jutsu with a new name.


This is my last post, I don't have all day to argue with you.
 

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How do you know?

Because it says "Tailed Beast Ball". Not any mention of variants.




We're talking in the context of jutsu, not people. It's saddening how you fail to grasp this.

Then your changing the meaning of the word. Which, again shows that you only want it to fit you prefrences.





Seriously? this is how immature you are?

You started this with by mentioning "your friend"




The wind was just used to amplify Baku's jutsu. It was the same jutsu, just amplified. Naruto and Sasuke's combo created an entirely new jutsu with a new name.

It Did not, It was simply FRS increasing the flames of Amaterasu.
 

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None of them solo, minato's kcm got absorbed.

Yeah right.

Nagato would get stomped in melee.

The guy cut through Bee's tentacles in -BASE- with a -KUNAI-.

In KCM he'd decapitate him.
 

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Nagato better get some **** cream, cause he is going to get buttraped in this match.
 

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Because it says "Tailed Beast Ball". Not any mention of variants.

They come in different sizes... He couldn't even create a small one before it exploded



You started this with by mentioning "your friend"

You still have no proof that *********** overall has more accurate translations except 1 panel.
 

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team 2 stomps effortlessly.

whoever thinks that sasuke enton has no cutting power is wrong. its not only burn damage:
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nagato has not shown that he can absorb amaterasu when he faced it in the manga. he gets sliced through like butter escpecially with the itachi and minato there to divide his attention.




secondly, mangapanda>***********. *********** takes more liberties with the text and makes it flow better. mangapanda follows the original japanese text closely.
which is closer to the VIZ:
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is this closer(mangapanda):
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or is this closer(***********):
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its pretty obvious that mangapanda is superior since it follows the japanese text the closest.
 

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Itachi, Sasuke, and KCM Minato > > Itachi, Bee, and KCM Naruto > > Nagato

Nagato's only narrowly stronger than Itachi or Minato.

Sasuke is probably stronger than Nagato now. (When he shows the true extent of his eyes.)
 

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Itachi, Sasuke, and KCM Minato > > Itachi, Bee, and KCM Naruto > > Nagato

Nagato's only narrowly stronger than Itachi or Minato.

Sasuke is probably stronger than Nagato now. (When he shows the true extent of his eyes.)

Agreed with everything except the Bold U_U Nagato with full might of Rinnegan and his Gedo Kuchiyose is above Sasuke U_U
 

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Agreed with everything except the Bold U_U Nagato with full might of Rinnegan and his Gedo Kuchiyose is above Sasuke U_U

Eh, I suspect Sasuke will show Perfect Susano'o (combined wit giant Enton-stuff) and the Yata/Totsuka soon.
 

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I've already tried to get a debate going but no ones biting.
Why is that? Because observed from an objective angle, there is obviously no contest. There is nothing to discuss. Debate the matter with yourself under consideration of all necessary aspects before seeking debate with others.

Even now that people did try to refute your silly idea of Nagato snatching some sort of victory, you rather attend to your pointless argument with Fanta instead replying to them. I am not going to waste any more posts regarding this 'debate'.
 

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Eh, I suspect Sasuke will show Perfect Susano'o (combined wit giant Enton-stuff) and the Yata/Totsuka soon.

Itachi still has the Yata and Totsuka. He used it when he was an Edo and the weapons cant very well be in two places at the same time.
 

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Why is that? Because observed from an objective angle, there is obviously no contest. There is nothing to discuss. Debate the matter with yourself under consideration of all necessary aspects before seeking debate with others.

Even now that people did try to refute your silly idea of Nagato snatching some sort of victory, you rather attend to your pointless argument with Fanta instead replying to them. I am not going to waste any more posts regarding this 'debate'.
Lord Flori has spoken.
 

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Nagato wins this one. He's not being controlled by kabuto this time so he'd use his skills effectively and efficiently. Using the kabuto controlled nagato isn't exactly appropriate as kabuto has no way of knowing how to use nagato's abilities as best as he can, especially when nagato had the skills all his life and kabuto just picked them up for 5 minutes.


Defence
Itachi is the biggest issue in this fight for nagato as his skills in analysis have shown to be quite troublesome. Along with the fact that he's able to shoot shuriken through blindspots, itachi is able to reproduce something of what he did to nagato. But, that's not to say it'd work again. This time, nagato isn't being controlled and doesn't have exclusive attention on 2 persons while itachi is no where to be seen. Nagato has no reason to let one of his opponents disappear from his sight. Therefore, Nagato simply uses his linked vision to keep an eye on each of his combatants - Considering he has manga intel on itachi, he'd know exactly what to avoid; Blindspot shurikens and totsuka.

Preta Path
This Path along completely screws over team 2. Because of preta, amaterasu and KCM cloak are completely nullified. I will repeat, using kabuto controlled nagato is a failed example as kabuto has no way of knowing how to effectively use nagato. Therefore, even though we didn't see him preta an amaterasu, it doesn't explicitly mean it's impossible considering amaterasu is and we know that preta reduces all chakra based attacks to 0.
Thus, Amaterasu, Rasengan, Chakra arms, any raiton, any katon, any form of enton attack, and even susano'o(i'll get back to this) are all reduced to nothing. Thus, Team 2 are only left with shuriken attacks, genjutsu and taijutsu to defeat nagato.

Shinra Tensei
Everyone on team 2 is incredibly fast, but without a doubt, minato is the speed king. Minato is able to toss his shuriken at high speed to quickly use FTG to warp to nagato. This would be an effective way to damage nagato, but, shinra tensei would effortlessly blow away any attempts at getting close to him. Infact, Shinra tensei has an instant activation and can blow away anyone in a split second, leaving his opponents with his 5 second interval to attack through. Because of this, any attempt for minato to tag nagato or even hit him would all prove fruitless. it would become virtually impossible for any of them to touch him without first having a distraction, but...

Asura PAth
The asura path allows nagato to easily cover himself during the 5 second intervals of ST. With asura, nagato can augment his body with additional limbs and rockets to counter attacks . Infact, all shuriken jutsu are going to prove fruitless simply because of Asura path, and that'd leave ST available for split second Blitz attacks through FTG/Shadow clones/Shushin. Because of this, Team 2 only has genjutsu left at their displosal to use, but that is easily countered through Linked vision. As we've seen, even if someone's under genjutsu, they can still see the real world if they have


Therefore, Nagato is able to completely nullify team 2 and still have CT, BT, Summonings, Removing soul, king of hell, and all 5 elemental ninjutsu at his disposal to use.

Nagato would win high diff simply because it's 3 elite ninja - Sharingan precognition and Ftg makes it harder to kill them.
 

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Team Two takes this without much of any effort.
 

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Team 2 takes this mid-diff

Despite the fact that Nagato is not in Kabuto's control, he's up against some tough, tough competition.
 
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