so sakura is just a tsunade rip off

[Ryuujin759]

How can most of us not hate Sakura? NO ONE likes AssPulls AKA plot no jutsu. She is a clear rip off of Tsunade but with much poorer character development, for 400+ chapters she looked more like a second chacracter while Tsunade was more of a important one to the main plot.

 

[sorbic]

Tsunade healed the whole leaf village.
Sakura healed the whole ninja alliance (5 villages)

Sakura>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>..Tsunade *_*

 

[Beatrix]

... Tsunade survived, was conscious and opted to heal the other Kage whilst she was cut in half.

CUT IN HALF.

Let's not bash on Tsunade in an idiot manner, eh? =D Tsunade isn't some weak-ass kunoichi.

Now, back to Sakura - I'd like to see some of her supposed genjutsu talent come in to play... it's a pity she didn't have Kurenai for a sensei. The whole flora/fauna genjutsu would have looked pretty good for Sakura, with cherry blossoms as a trademark. Combine that with poison from her training with Shizune and you'd have a very pretty/kick ass delivery method...
In my head I have her using either poisoned shuriken or senbon and like Itachi disguising them - instead of crows, she'd have flowers/petals.

... of course, that all came from my mind when I figured Hinata and Sakura should have been the other's team from the beginning Lol

 

[OopsWrongHole]

Damn god damn

 

[Mr Hiru]

The only thing left is that Kishimoto tells us that Sakura has Uzumaki blood through her father. Plot no Jutsu. LOL

 

[Hori]

i just have 2 things to say:

1. Sakura will not develop any new jutsus simply because she must be a second Tsunade like Jiraiya stated in start of Shipuuden.

2. If that happens for her to get new techs then I think we would see Naruto doing something rather than any form of rasengan and kage bunshin

 

[Ryuujin759]

The only thing left is that Kishimoto tells us that Sakura has Uzumaki blood through her father. Plot no Jutsu. LOL

LOL, FFS I would just....................

 

[Daishippy]

Heh - yeah, I thought perhaps she'd summon a different Slug, one who had slightly different techniques from Tsunade's and who Sakura had developed some new techniques of her own with... but it's not to be.
Then again, I was mostly concerned about her summoning Katsuyu away from Tsunade...

Wouldn't it be cool if at the slug homeplace, was just 1 giant katsuyu. And everytime someone summoned her, the amount of chakra dictated how much she split to send off to tsunade or sakura.

 

[Namikaze Haru]

Sakura haters are truly funny.

sakura fans r even funnier

Tsunade is her mentor, and she doesnt have Bijuu within her or Doujutsu, so what did you expect?

Just the fact that shes able to use these techniques is a great feat for her.

she is still infact an tsunade ripoff who has been useless for pretty much the whole series

I agree though wish Sakura did something that made her a bit different to Tsunade.

thank you, she has no signature that can be seen has her jutsu

Haters, being proud of their stupidity. How can you not feel embrassed. :erm:

ur stupidity is even worse

 

[Namikaze Haru]

Heh - yeah, I thought perhaps she'd summon a different Slug, one who had slightly different techniques from Tsunade's and who Sakura had developed some new techniques of her own with... but it's not to be.
Then again, I was mostly concerned about her summoning Katsuyu away from Tsunade...

But yeah, there's obviously a lot we didn't know (or Naruto didn't) about Sakura's development and training with Tsunade. I think it would be fair to say she's more like Tsunade's equal in terms of skill/capability - though obviously not experience. But regardless, she's mastered Tsunade's highest ranked techniques, those deemed the pinnacle of medical ninjutsu. Techniques Shizune couldn't master herself, techniques no one else has apart from Tsunade - techniques Orochimaru envied.

All that in itself is quite impressive - Tsunade is one of the legendary Sannin - she's the Godaime Hokage and the granddaughter of Hashirama Senju and she taught/has faith in Sakura.
That in itself makes me think that perhaps she has at least one more trick up her sleeve. Maybe. Hopefully.

... I don't know why people treat Sakura's accomplishments like they're nothing. They're something, which is after all much better than nothing.
She just healed the entire Shinobi Alliance in one jutsu... that's no small feat.

And I say all that as someone who isn't particularly fond of Sakura. I dislike her personality, I find her somewhat callous, cruel and incredibly selfish.
But flawed characters are best - not everyone is perfect and well, I can't think of a single character in Naruto-verse who is.
But as she became a more capable shinobi I learned to tolerate her more.

In Sakura's defence; it's not her fault she isn't a Jinchuriki - nor is it her fault she doesn't possess a Blood Limit or Dojutsu like the Sharingan and EMS, or isn't a Senju or Uzumaki.
... the fact she somewhat keeps up with them and supports them is all the more impressive because she doesn't.
That and she's a med-nin, her priority is to heal and support - and the sooner people realise the importance of that, the better.

I know some people are hopeful that it'll come out that she's got some Senju blood in her but it doesn't seem incredibly likely to me - you'd think a trademark of their bloodline would be impressive chakra reserves which isn't something Sakura had in the beginning.


EDIT: Also, it wouldn't matter so much if she is just a copy of Tsunade and hasn't yet created new techniques of her own.... IF TSUNADE IS DEAD. At least Tsunade's techniques won't die with her.

u wana know y ppl hate her. ill tell u.

When pain destroys the leaf with shinra tensei, sakura just cried like a b!tch screaming naruto's name (jus coz sasuke wasn't there). i mean if she could do all that she did in the last few chapters, then y didn't she try to take on pain? everyone else was.

now tsunade who had protected EVERYONE from pain's jutsu and used up almost all her chakra doing so STILL tried to confront pain in her weakened state. now that deserves respect and u know it does. all that while sakura was watching from an distance.

now for hinata who wanted to help naruto from the start of his battle with pain was stopped by her guardian when he said she will just be in the way. but upon seeing naruto in peril decided she didn't care and went to help him anyway. all this while sakura was STILL on the sidelines.

now why im i calling her a ripoff. EVERYTHING she is now doing is EVERYTHING we have seen tsunade do and i can't stand to such a useless char like sakura ripping off a well written char like tsunade

and no she hasn't mastered tsunade's techs. she can't use strength of a hundred or creation rebirth. and she has no defence. there are several chars who don't have dojutsu or are a jinchuuriki or have a kekkei genkai or have a special lineage but are still incredibly strong.

minato
jiraiya
orchimaru
sarutobi
3rd/4th raikages
2nd mizukage
konan

 

[Turson]

she is still infact an tsunade ripoff who has been useless for pretty much the whole series

Not exactly. Sakuras Yin seal differs from Tsunades, we are yet to see its full capabilities.

 

[Namikaze Haru]

Not exactly. Sakuras Yin seal differs from Tsunades, we are yet to see its full capabilities.

i think we already have, all it did is make her hit hard but like i said it is still a ripoff from tsunade

 

[Mistraal]

Haters of Sakura won't be happy until Kishi renames the manga after her and gives her the level of development only warranted by the main protagonist since it seems like that's what they are expecting.

 

[Turson]

i think we already have, all it did is make her hit hard but like i said it is still a ripoff from tsunade

We shall see. Sakura could be able to release it like Tsunade. If their base seals are different, then their effects after release could also differ.

 

[Ryuujin759]

Not exactly. Sakuras Yin seal differs from Tsunades, we are yet to see its full capabilities.

It's the same seal, and if different then it can't be better than Tsunade's but at much it can only have a different but not better effect. Since Shizune compared herself to Sakura saying "Something that I couldn't master" and not something like "Something that not even Tsunade could master" and Hashirama could at most only compare her to a 4-5 year old Tsunade since he didn't even know she became Hokage.

She only hits harder since she actually focuses her chakra on strength, Tsunade doesn't since she uses it to keep a young body and reserves it for healings and regenerations. Tsunade has way more raw strength.


Prime Tsunade would just be ... alot

 

[Beatrix]

u wana know y ppl hate her. ill tell u.

When pain destroys the leaf with shinra tensei, sakura just cried like a b!tch screaming naruto's name (jus coz sasuke wasn't there). i mean if she could do all that she did in the last few chapters, then y didn't she try to take on pain? everyone else was.

now tsunade who had protected EVERYONE from pain's jutsu and used up almost all her chakra doing so STILL tried to confront pain in her weakened state. now that deserves respect and u know it does. all that while sakura was watching from an distance.

now for hinata who wanted to help naruto from the start of his battle with pain was stopped by her guardian when he said she will just be in the way. but upon seeing naruto in peril decided she didn't care and went to help him anyway. all this while sakura was STILL on the sidelines.

now why im i calling her a ripoff. EVERYTHING she is now doing is EVERYTHING we have seen tsunade do and i can't stand to such a useless char like sakura ripping off a well written char like tsunade

and no she hasn't mastered tsunade's techs. she can't use strength of a hundred or creation rebirth. and she has no defence. there are several chars who don't have dojutsu or are a jinchuuriki or have a kekkei genkai or have a special lineage but are still incredibly strong.

minato
jiraiya
orchimaru
sarutobi
3rd/4th raikages
2nd mizukage
konan

The first three you mention - Minato, Jiraiya, Orochimaru - are all either orphans or have parents who are currently unaccounted for in the manga/anime.
So their genetics, bloodline and whatnot isn't really known and therefore they don't make the best examples.

Sarutobi is a Clan - one with a Fire Affinity and known for producing talented, formidable shinobi. Sasuke Uchiha was given his name after the Sandaime's father, Sasuke Sarutobi, as Mikoto told Kushina it was done in the hope that her son would grow up to be a great shinobi like his namesake.

The Raikage - the have techniques they pass on to one another, whether blood or not it's based off an intense lightening affinity. They DO have a 'special' lineage.

Konan - again, like the first lot her parents are unknown because she is an orphan.

But back to the point...
I didn't wonder - at all - why people hate her. I myself dislike her and have a strong preference for Hinata over herself. What I did say was this;

... I don't know why people treat Sakura's accomplishments like they're nothing. They're something, which is after all much better than nothing.

I dislike Sakura - and at times I have hated her character, for the very examples you have given. YET I can still appreciate her accomplishments but they are just that... accomplishments. She is and has been improving.

In Part I she was a self-centred, vain and selfish girl who cared more about her crush Sasuke than well... pretty much anything and everyone else.
She's not perfect - she has bad traits in her personality, but then so does everyone else. But by Part II she is at least less self-centred, she is considerably less vain and selfish and her relationship with Naruto is massively improved by her taking to heart Sasuke's words about her inability to understand.
... it's a long process, it's not her fault she knew nothing of loss. Not like Sasuke and Naruto did.

She also spends a fair bit of time 'in the distance watching' because she is a med-nin, she is foridden by Tsunade's rules from purposefully engaging in combat.
What Hinata did was both admirable and selfish - it would of been vastly more selfish if she were a med-nin. Med-nins can't afford to sacrifice their lives. Sakura knew she couldn't defeat pain, but she knew as a med-nin she could help save lives by doing what she had been trained and instructed to do.

Tsunade's actions are different because a) she can bypass the med-nin rules and enter combat, b) she is Hokage, it is her duty to defend her village, c) she had little choice, Pein attacked her.
Also - she's a Senju descendant with an Uzumaki grandmother, her chakra reserves are ridiculous and therefore her jutsu is obviously more impressive. Not to mention her age, experience and practice it's hardly surprising Sakura (age 15) is yet to wholly outshine her in this respect.

Regardless, her less than appealing personality and her questionable actions regarding her courage aren't the main focus of this thread.

Yes - she has mastered the byakugō.

True - we have yet to see her produce the techniques that are able to come from this such as Creation Rebirth but she's yet to be significantly injured in order to use it.
In theory, I don't think she'll have a problem using it - if she can heal the shinobi alliance en mass with Tsunade's healing jutsu then I don't see why not.