Training in Suiton

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I'm just a mere Senpai, not a sensei...yet. >_<

Okay please tell me then.
1. Why do you want to learn suiton?
2. What is suiton weakness and why?
3. What is sution strong against and why?
4. 5 users who use suiton?
5. 2 KG that have suiton?

Using as much detail as you can, please. :D
 

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I'm just a mere Senpai, not a sensei...yet. >_<

Okay please tell me then.
1. Why do you want to learn suiton?
2. What is suiton weakness and why?
3. What is sution strong against and why?
4. 5 users who use suiton?
5. 2 KG that have suiton?

Using as much detail as you can, please. :D

It's an honor for me, that you teach me in Water Release!!
I'm sure you will get the rank sensei soon :scorps:

1. I want to learn suiton, because it's very useful when you fight against someone with Fire techniques and because learning water is very useful when fighting close to a lake.
2. Water Release is weak against earth because earth structures can dissipate the force of water rendering the technique ineffective.
3. Water is strong against fire because it naturally extinguishes the flames (though a sufficiently powerful fire technique can cause evaporation). Additionally, it can be used with Wind Release to increase the concussive and overall destructive power of a water technique.
4. Tobirama Senju, Kisame Hoshigaki, Suigetsu Hozuki, Haku Yuki and Zabuza Momochi.
5. Two KG that use Suiton in them are Storm Release and Ice Release.
 
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It's an honor for me, that you teach me in Water Release!!
I'm sure you will get the rank sensei soon :scorps:

1. I want to learn suiton, because it's very useful when you fight against someone with Fire techniques and because learning water is very useful when fighting close to a lake.
2. Water Release is weak against earth because earth structures can dissipate the force of water rendering the technique ineffective.
3. Water is strong against fire because it naturally extinguishes the flames (though a sufficiently powerful fire technique can cause evaporation). Additionally, it can be used with Wind Release to increase the concussive and overall destructive power of a water technique.
4. Tobirama Senju, Kisame Hoshigaki, Suigetsu Hozuki, Haku Yuki and Zabuza Momochi.
5. Two KG that use Suiton in them are Storm Release and Ice Release.
Hmm, well done!

Okay take this piece of paper, I hand you, send your chakra into the paper, the paper will become wet/damp. if done correctly, please try it.

Detail and whatnot is what I need.
 

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Hmm, well done!

Okay take this piece of paper, I hand you, send your chakra into the paper, the paper will become wet/damp. if done correctly, please try it.

Detail and whatnot is what I need.
Thank you senpai :yay:

*I grab the paper with my right hand and I begin to gather water-infused chakra, then I begin to channel that chakra into my hand and then into the paper. As the chakra flows towards the paper, it begins to get wet.*
 

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Dude, more detail then that.
I'm sorry senpai U_U

Ok second try:

*Trying to concentrate even more than before*

First I grab the paper with my right hand and place it between my palms. Then I begin to gather water-infused chakra into the palms where I held the Chakra Paper and I begin to think of Water as a cool liquid which calms the mind, then I begin to channel that chakra into my hand and finally into the paper.With that thinking I concentrate even more chakra into my palms and direct it into the Chakra Paper. As the chakra flows towards the paper, it becomes wet. I feel how my chakra turns into water that will allow me to manipulate pre-existing water, or create my own, by turning my chakra into water.
 

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I'm sorry senpai U_U

Ok second try:

*Trying to concentrate even more than before*

First I grab the paper with my right hand and place it between my palms. Then I begin to gather water-infused chakra into the palms where I held the Chakra Paper and I begin to think of Water as a cool liquid which calms the mind, then I begin to channel that chakra into my hand and finally into the paper.With that thinking I concentrate even more chakra into my palms and direct it into the Chakra Paper. As the chakra flows towards the paper, it becomes wet. I feel how my chakra turns into water that will allow me to manipulate pre-existing water, or create my own, by turning my chakra into water.
Much better.

This here is the template I want you to follow and use; every technique I show? Understood?

Now we can start our first technique.

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[CODE][B]One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
[LIST]
[*]1. 
[*]2.
[*]3.
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[/LIST]
[B]One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
[LIST]
[*]1. 
[*]2.
[*]3.
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[/LIST]
[B]How you would use it in battle:[/B]
[B]How you would counter it:[/B]
[B]How you perform it (with as much detail as you can):[/B][/CODE]
(Suiton No Jutsu) - Water technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary/Attack/Defence
Range: Short-Mid
Damage Points:20
Description: Creates small waves of water,small blasts, and small shields of water.
Note: Doesn't require a water source but can be used to manipulate existing water.

Simply gather a small amount of suiton chakra up in your hands then release small waves of water or blasts or shields of water.
 

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Thank you senpai :cool:

Yeah I understood!

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[B]One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
[LIST][*]1. It can be used as offensive technique [Small blasts]. [*]2. It can be used also as defensive technique [small shields of water]. [*]3. If you are nearby a lake,you can manipulate/use the water for your own advantage.[*][/LIST]
[B]One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
[LIST][*]1. The time to make the handseals may be to long.[*]2. The jutsu may be weak for the opponent you are battling. [*]3. It's not good to use this jutsu against Earth Techniques. [*][/LIST]
[B]How you would use it in battle:[/B] It can be used as a attack,defense and a distraction. It can also be used to manipulate preexisting water sources. 
Since it can manipulate preexisting water sources, it really doesn't have a size limit. For instance, it can create a massive wave of water by manipulating the water source.

[B]How you would counter it:[/B] As I know that water is weak against earth, because earth structures can dissipate the force of water rendering the technique ineffective, then I will use earth technique to counter the water technique.

[B]How you perform it (with as much detail as you can):[/B] [COLOR="#0000FF"]
*I see a lake nearby*[/COLOR] I walk to the water source and start walking on the water.I put my hands together, then I close my eyes, I calm my mind and I start concentrating on my Suiton chakra. I feel my chakra flowing throughout my whole body. As I start controlling my chakra I send my chakra into the already exsisting water, then I begin forcing the water to rise. I start thinking of waves in my head and then I manipulate the waves in my head and turn them into reality with the water I'm on.I Make the waves rise high enough and then I send them back to normal.
Senpai I've got a question for you, since I'm new to RP and I don't quit know a lot about Earth, is there any chance that a water technique can win against earth technique? I mean, for example: if it's S-Rank Water against B-Rank Earth, the stronger technique would win right?
 
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And yes, and S-rank water would overpower a B-rank earth

Okay so. Give this a read. ^^

Fire
-Weak to water
-Strong against wind

Water
-Weak against earth
-Strong against fire

Earth
-Weak against lightning
-Strong against water

Lightning
-Weak against wind
-Strong against earth

Wind
-Weak against fire
-Strong against lightning

Also;

-An A-rank combined with another A-rank does not give you a forbidden rank; it gives you the equivalent of an S-rank jutsu. Two B-rank will give you an A-rank, so on and so forth.

-Non linear combinations such as: B-rank combined with A-rank, will result in an S-rank jutsu. Since it would be debatable whether or not it’s considered an S-rank or an A-rank, we assume it’s the stronger of the two. This way, when defending, you’ll always be safe and no debate will arise. Again, when making a combination of two jutsu which differ by one rank, the resulting jutsu is one rank above the stronger of the two.

-The only exception applies to S-ranked jutsus. When combining an S-rank with another S-rank or an S-rank with an A-rank jutsu, it doesn’t become a Forbidden rank technique. By definition, a Forbidden technique requires that the user suffers severe damage when performing the technique. Hence, those two combinations will only result in a very strong S-rank jutsu.

Example:

S+S= Very strong S-rank jutsu
S+A= Strong S-rank jutsu
A+A=S-rank jutsu
A+B=S-rank jutsu
B+B=A-rank jutsu
B+C=A-rank jutsu
C+C=B-rank jutsu
C+D=B-rank jutsu
D+D=C-rank jutsu

Read up on this post also;

I hope that helps out.
 

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And yes, and S-rank water would overpower a B-rank earth

Okay so. Give this a read. ^^

Fire
-Weak to water
-Strong against wind

Water
-Weak against earth
-Strong against fire

Earth
-Weak against lightning
-Strong against water

Lightning
-Weak against wind
-Strong against earth

Wind
-Weak against fire
-Strong against lightning

Also;

-An A-rank combined with another A-rank does not give you a forbidden rank; it gives you the equivalent of an S-rank jutsu. Two B-rank will give you an A-rank, so on and so forth.

-Non linear combinations such as: B-rank combined with A-rank, will result in an S-rank jutsu. Since it would be debatable whether or not it’s considered an S-rank or an A-rank, we assume it’s the stronger of the two. This way, when defending, you’ll always be safe and no debate will arise. Again, when making a combination of two jutsu which differ by one rank, the resulting jutsu is one rank above the stronger of the two.

-The only exception applies to S-ranked jutsus. When combining an S-rank with another S-rank or an S-rank with an A-rank jutsu, it doesn’t become a Forbidden rank technique. By definition, a Forbidden technique requires that the user suffers severe damage when performing the technique. Hence, those two combinations will only result in a very strong S-rank jutsu.

Example:

S+S= Very strong S-rank jutsu
S+A= Strong S-rank jutsu
A+A=S-rank jutsu
A+B=S-rank jutsu
B+B=A-rank jutsu
B+C=A-rank jutsu
C+C=B-rank jutsu
C+D=B-rank jutsu
D+D=C-rank jutsu

Read up on this post also;

I hope that helps out.
Yeah I understand it now, thank you senpai :scorps:
*I'm excited for the next technique that you are gonna teach me* :bouncy:
 

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Well glad that helped!

Next!

(Kirigakure No Jutsu) - Hidding in Mist Jutsu
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: This displacement technique creates a thick mist to spring forth by lifting up some water from either a pre-existing source or expelled from their mouth, then goes in and out of sight at will from within the pearly-white realm. The mist's thickness is controlled by the amount of chakra kneaded into it. It can't fool the Byakugan, but, due to the mist being created with the user's chakra, any Sharingan and Rinnegan-user will see the mist coloured by their opponent's chakra, which will effectively hide the user from the dōjutsu.
Note: Can be created through releasing from mouth or manipulating a nearby water source.

For this you can either use your mouth or the pre-existing water source. Your choice.
Pretty much cover yourself and the surrounding area in mist.
 

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Well glad that helped!

Next!

(Kirigakure No Jutsu) - Hidding in Mist Jutsu
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary
Range: Short-Long
Chakra Cost: 10
Damage Points: N/A
Description: This displacement technique creates a thick mist to spring forth by lifting up some water from either a pre-existing source or expelled from their mouth, then goes in and out of sight at will from within the pearly-white realm. The mist's thickness is controlled by the amount of chakra kneaded into it. It can't fool the Byakugan, but, due to the mist being created with the user's chakra, any Sharingan and Rinnegan-user will see the mist coloured by their opponent's chakra, which will effectively hide the user from the dōjutsu.
Note: Can be created through releasing from mouth or manipulating a nearby water source.

For this you can either use your mouth or the pre-existing water source. Your choice.
Pretty much cover yourself and the surrounding area in mist.

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[B]One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
[LIST][*]1. You can use this jutsu as advantage for yourself and hide in it and then you can attack your enemy from nowhere [*]2. Due to the mist being created with the user's chakra, any Sharingan and Rinnegan-user will see the mist coloured by their opponent's chakra, which will effectively hide the user from the dōjutsu. [*]3. You can use the Hidding in Mist Jutsu not only as an offense, but you can do the technique and then escape from your enemy. [*][/LIST]
[B]One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
[LIST][*]1. By holding it, you lose one hand to use handsigns. 
 [*]2. Your enemy probably could counter your jutsu when he makes a clone himself and hides and waits for you to appear. [*]3. It can't fool an Byakugan-user [*][/LIST]

[B]How you would use it in battle:[/B] I would use it to hide against my enemy in the mist and then I will surprise attack my enemy.

[B]How you would counter it:[/B] If you are born in the Hyuga clan, you will obviously have Byakugan and you will see your enemy through the mist. If not then you must come with a fast strategy, for example you can use Body Replacement Technique in the right moment as your enemy appears from the mist, you must be fast, and then you can hide and wait till you get a chance to attack your opponent.

[B]How you perform it (with as much detail as you can):[/B] 
[COLOR="#0000FF"]*As I'm still standing in the lake*[/COLOR] I start to gather my Suiton chakra again, I think of a thick mist in my head and how it will look. I then open my eyes and then I release it into the air around me, within a short to mid range, I start to rapidly add more and more Suiton chakra until a mist starts to form, the mist is getting thicker since I put more and more Suiton chakra, I control the mist's thickness by the amount of chakra I kneaded into it, into the area around us. The mist has covered the entire area around us.
I should always use the template for every technique you show me, right senpai?
 
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That is correct. Well done.

(Suiton: Mizu Kuri No Yaiba) - Water Style: Sword of Draining
Rank: D
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: A technique that utilizes water to create a sword. The sword can be wielded in the normal fashion, allowing the ninja to cut and stab like with a normal blade.
Note: Doesn't require a water source.

Okay gather up some suiton chakra in your hands then use shape manipulation to change the chakra into a water sword, that is able to stab and cut like a normal blade.
 

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That is correct. Well done.

(Suiton: Mizu Kuri No Yaiba) - Water Style: Sword of Draining
Rank: D
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage Points: 20
Description: A technique that utilizes water to create a sword. The sword can be wielded in the normal fashion, allowing the ninja to cut and stab like with a normal blade.
Note: Doesn't require a water source.

Okay gather up some suiton chakra in your hands then use shape manipulation to change the chakra into a water sword, that is able to stab and cut like a normal blade.
Thank you senpai :p

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[B]One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
[LIST][*]1. This technique allows the user to manipulate water into the form of a sword. This sword is also shown to be very resilient as it is able to withstand and cut through most Fire Release techniques.  [*]2. Since it's made out of water, and if you are a skilled suiton user, it has the same effect as a real sword and could be very helpful in fights.[*]3. You can use the sword as a weapon.[*][/LIST]
[B]One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
[LIST][*]1. You can't combine this technique with other techniques. [*]2. You can only use this technique for Short-range fights. [*]3. By holding it, you lose one hand to use handsigns. [*][/LIST]
[B]How you would use it in battle:[/B]
I can use it as an weapon, for example I can form a shape of an sword or of an katana.

[B]How you would counter it:[/B]
Since this technique is Short-range, I can counter it with Long-range jutsus.

[B]How you perform it (with as much detail as you can):[/B] 
[COLOR="#0000FF"]*I go out of the lake*[/COLOR] I start to gather a big amount of Suiton chakra up, doing that I think about the shape of an sword and then I send it all to my palms, then I manipulate, adding more and more Suiton chakra into my palms, so that it takes on the properties of water and changes into water. After doing that I manipulate the shape of mine Suiton chakra and extend it onward from my palm so it starts to look like a sword, the sword looks alright.
Senpai I wanted to tell you that you are amazing teacher *_*
Why don't you actually apply for an sensei, I'm sure they will accept you in no time!
 

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You're a good student, good detail and all that, keep it up.

And, thanks. I just guess passing the battle test/written test puts me off a bit, I guess.

( Suiton: Junsai no Jutsu ) - Water Release: Water Shield Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary, Defence
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user will manipulate their water chakra and releasing it from their arm which is held outwards infront of them and they then create a shield of water that can aide in defence against projectile weapons and close combat techniques.

Gather your suiton chakra up in your arm then release it holding your arm outwards infront of you, thus creating a shield of water.

This technique honestly I wouldn't use as it only reaches to short range, and doesn't create the strongest of shields. :\
 

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You're a good student, good detail and all that, keep it up.

And, thanks. I just guess passing the battle test/written test puts me off a bit, I guess.

( Suiton: Junsai no Jutsu ) - Water Release: Water Shield Technique
Rank: D
Type: Supplementary, Defence
Range: Short
Chakra cost: 10
Damage points: N/A
Description: The user will manipulate their water chakra and releasing it from their arm which is held outwards infront of them and they then create a shield of water that can aide in defence against projectile weapons and close combat techniques.

Gather your suiton chakra up in your arm then release it holding your arm outwards infront of you, thus creating a shield of water.

This technique honestly I wouldn't use as it only reaches to short range, and doesn't create the strongest of shields. :\
Thank you senpai :p
You like details, don't you :heh:


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[B]One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
[LIST][*]1. The shield is quite effective against Katon ninjutsu. [*]2. It could be used as a defense, against projectile weapons and close combat techniques.[*]3. Since it's made out of water, and if you are a skilled suiton user, it has the same effect as a real shield and could be very helpful in fights.[*][/LIST]
[B]One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
[LIST][*]1. An Raiton ninjutsu will simply double the damage the user takes.[*]2. By holding it, you lose one hand to use handsigns.[*]3. You can only use this technique for Short-range fights.[*][/LIST]
[B]How you would use it in battle:[/B]
As I said, the shield is quite effective against Katon ninjutsu, so I would use it against and opponent who uses Katon ninjutsu. I almoust forgot that after the initial creation, the user can manipulate the water, allowing for water spikes, water tentacles, and even water hands, wich could be very useful in fights.

[B]How you would counter it:[/B]
I would counter it by using an Raiton ninjutsu, because that will simply double the damage of my jutsu.

[B]How you perform it (with as much detail as you can):[/B] 
I start to manipulate my water chakra, by putting enough chakra needed to make a shield into my hand, and then releasing it from my arm which is held outwards infront of me. I'm thinking of of a shield in my mind, and sphere-shaped barrier of water is formed around me, reaching just above my head. Some seconds later I finally create a shield of water that can aide in defence against projectile weapons and close combat techniques and after the initial creation, I can manipulate the water, allowing me to use water spikes, water tentacles, and even water hands.
I start liking the details too Lol, but actually for me this is the most important thing, because to know when to use a technique in fight and to know if the jutsu will actually work against your opponent, you need to know these details well enough.
 

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Yes, detail is everything. U_U

Um, make sure you get 2,500 posts before we reach A-rank; as if you don't we will have to stop training until you reach said rank.

(Suiton: Suikōtoppa) – Water Release: Water Shark Breakthrough
Rank: C
Type: Attack
Range: short
Chakra cost 15
Damage points: 30
Description: The user will create a water shark to jump into the air and bolt towards the opponent, striking them.
Note: Requires a water source.

Go over to the water source, and send your suiton chakra into the water, manipulate the water to create a water shark that will jump out of the water striking my clone down.

-Creates clone. -
 

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Yes, detail is everything. U_U

Um, make sure you get 2,500 posts before we reach A-rank; as if you don't we will have to stop training until you reach said rank.

(Suiton: Suikōtoppa) – Water Release: Water Shark Breakthrough
Rank: C
Type: Attack
Range: short
Chakra cost 15
Damage points: 30
Description: The user will create a water shark to jump into the air and bolt towards the opponent, striking them.
Note: Requires a water source.

Go over to the water source, and send your suiton chakra into the water, manipulate the water to create a water shark that will jump out of the water striking my clone down.

-Creates clone. -
I know senpai, I like details too.
So you are telling me to use Spam No Jutsu xd, just joking, I'll be sure to be even more active and I'm sure I can reach
S-Class rank soon :p


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[B]One/three advantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
[LIST][*]1. This technique can block some fire techniques.[*]2. Can make a lot of the sharks at once, and can be very useful during battle.[*]3. If you put you normal chakra layer into the sharks can be very useful too.[*][/LIST]
[B]One/three disadvantages (no obvious ones, be creative):[/B]
[LIST][*]1. It requires a water source, so can't be really use by a low skilled ninja.[*]2. It can get sucked up by earth technique[*]3. If it takes too long to make the shark, my opponent can attack me easily. [*][/LIST]
[B]How you would use it in battle:[/B]
I would use it as an offense technique, but only if I have an water source around me.

[B]How you would counter it:[/B]
I would counter it with a Doton technique, or a Katon technique to cancel the jutsu's out for fire. 

[B]How you perform it (with as much detail as you can):[/B]
[COLOR="#0000FF"]*I see the lake and I make my way to the water source and turn around towards your clone and you* [/COLOR] I start by channelling my suiton chakra into the surrounding lake, I then think of a shark figure in my head and place my hand on the water to make it become reality, after doing that I manipulate my suiton chakra and then I start to form a shark with my suiton chakra. I start forming a big, with a dull gray back and a white underside, with spindle shaped body and shaped teeth with serrations on the edges, with large and strong caudal fin, shark. I now have formed a shark using my suiton chakra, and then I manipulate my normal chakra into the shark in doing that, the shark is able to cut though the water and air at a faster speed. And finally I send the shark at your clone, at a astonishing speed destroying your clone.
 
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Good! ^_^

And, if you want lol.

(Suiton: Suiben) - Water Release: Water whip
Rank: C
Type: Offensive, supplementary
Range: Short - Mid
Chakra cost: 15
Damage points: 30
Description: After the user performs a series of 3 hand seals Rat → Dog → Ox, the user creates a whip of water that can be used to strike the opponent with a lashing action or wrap around the target to bind them. This technique can also have lightning techniques channeled through when they have bound their victim with the water whip.

Perform the three seals, then gather your suiton chakra in your hands then use shape manipulation to create a whip of water. that you can whip around my clone, lighting techs can be channeled though the whip for a combo attack.

-Creates clone.-
 
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