Naruto is nothing without Kurama? Ha, FAIL!

[EliteRamenNinja]

Yeah, he only got the Kyuubi within the first 20 min of his life...how exactly is that "selective"?

Hahahaha, I know bro. Just try to remain calm with some of them. =D

I agree, bra

Sasuke would have easily, again, EASILY been manipulated by Kurama. Did you see how bad he wanted power, he went off to Oro without hesitation

"Naruto nothing without Kurama" is just a bullshit argument by butthurt fanboys

Indeed, mate!

 

[Optimistic]

To answer on your post. I made a crucial part black:
You are right. But Sasuke WENT to Orochimaru, he ASKED for Itachi's eyes. Sorry bro, but those are 2 cheats for me.

Its only natural for someone to take the no blind route.Any human being would transplant the eyes to prevent their eyes from never seeing light again.

This while Naruto didn't asked for Kurama. And Kurama was a burden, while Sasuke's power-cheat-ups were directly advantages!

It doesn't mater if something was a burden or not, Naruto's Bijuu was given to him.Its the villages fault for not training to control that power like Killer Bee did as a kid.I'm logging off soon this discussion will have no real answer since Naruto not having Kyuubi = Living Minato = different plot.

 

[EliteRamenNinja]

This is really low and gay argument. Just fitting to naruto fanboys

You always talk about gays, dude. Come out the closhet with your issues.

PS: You have guts to call others gay when you're a Sasuke-fan, oh the irony lol, I give you that. xd xd xd

 

[johnnyindigo]

This is really low and gay argument. Just fitting to naruto fanboys
Following this logic
Naruto w/o kurama long dead. Killed by sasuke At VoTE.
Or i could simply choose any random instance where naruto was either out chakra or pinned by rods to fit my agenda.
Its all mute since they are all dead cuz fictional characters are like this u know.
Clearly Sasuke's own power MS > SM naruto.

1 how did he get MS?
And it has been stated many times than MS = SM...
Low and gay arguement? Nice coming from imbecile
Im not a fanboy, Madara is like my favorite character
+ as in my picture i have both naruto and sasuke I have made 0 fanboy statements..
@ vote sasuke wanted to kill naruto whereas naruto was trying to save sasuke even scratching his headband to prove his previous statement wrong?

The point being, you're mad sasuke is just not stronger than naruto. Its ok you can still sleep at night
You ignoramus good luck responding
Sasuke w/o uchiha is fodder, Naruto w/o uzumaki no!! Just accept it, you butthurt asinine twit

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Naruto without Kurama would be reduced to SM and his Rasnagan - its variants - of course, and yes, IF compared to BM, Naruto's power is monumentally decreased. As for his skill then he lacks chakra control, which is evident from his lack of single handed Rasangan, summoning without Kurama's chakra outside SM, and his lack of ability to break out of genjutsu. This doesn't translate into a very good ninja at all.

Compare that to Sasuke, or Kakashi, or Minato even. All of them have trumendous chakra control and Kakashi and Sasuke are two of the most diverse ninjas out of the lot, if not the most diverse. Naruto lacks the merits to perform Ninja-like tasks, such as setting traps, tailing effectively, leadership, perception. You cannot simply deny these things. Fast forward so many chapters, where does he stand in terms of basic skill growth? You and I both know these are hard facts, whether you accept them or not.

In fact, Naruto was never a ninja to begin with if one is to go by Ninja code of conduct. Sasuke fans? The OP here is in a habit of digging mountains out of mole hills. The number of hate threads he has made; I have lost the count. And this is just one Naruto fan. You can do the math now. I have seen plenty of Naruto fans twist manga statements and facts to suit their own needs. Let's not joke here that which fandom is always under heat and which trolls the hell out of different sections.

Your forgetting that without Kurama, his chakra control would be better. Recently, he's been shown tremendous chakra control such as one handed tailed beast ransengan, chakra transfer, and remotely controlling it.

 

[Almighty Ra]

I agree, bra

Sasuke would have easily, again, EASILY been manipulated by Kurama. Did you see how bad he wanted power, he went off to Oro without hesitation

"Naruto nothing without Kurama" is just a bullshit argument by butthurt fanboys

I agree with this statement

 

[Almighty Ra]

Omg reading all these post has me dieing..Everyone is bring great arguments ,points and some funny funny ass insults.Lmfao

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[shelke]

And sasuke w/o ems is reduced to fodder
Thats it..

Naruto's whole attitude was because he didn't have any parents, and his stunts and goofs were so that he could get attention
His life was hell because of kurama
And sasuke was praised because he was an uchiha
Kurama only helped naruto really
like 150 chapter ago
Other than that it has halted him to the max
The sharingan in no way affected sasuke negatively, until he eventually goes blind

Sasuke without EMS is reduced to six Raiton Variants which he holds a mastery over, together with three powerful Katon attacks, incredible base speed, insane skill in Shuriken Jutsu and Kenjutsu, great perception, traps setting ability etcetra. If this is a fodder, then you need serious help.

This thread proves you wrong, totally.

You mean your pointless subjective opinion that is as always, very entertaining?

He trained for it. It was not like with Sasuke, he just got everything just like that.

Only thing he trained for is chidori, lol.

Trained for what? Working with Jiraiya? That sounds so ridiculous and contrived. It makes zero sense and is made up logic from you, as usual.

- Raiton attacks - Aside of Chidori, he created all 5 by himself.

- Katon attack - His father only taught him the basics, he trained to perfect it himself along with other Katon attacks. In fact, Fugaku was shown to be busy with Itachi as well. After the Massacre, Sasuke got where he was because of his own hard work. And Naruto was ... well, let's not even go there.

- Shuriken and Kenjutsu - He perfected it himself, and progressed it further from part one string and Shuriken manipulation.

Compare this to Naruto's Kurama training - He just formed a bond. Meditated for Kurama to convert itself to his *****. The hard work. Don't even go there that he used Rasangan and all that on Kurama, when that battle was inside his consciousness. It wasn't even an actual battle in a physical realm.

That and his clone techniques, and large pool of Uzumaki chakra. Another mode of hard work.

Your forgetting that without Kurama, his chakra control would be better. Recently, he's been shown tremendous chakra control such as one handed tailed beast ransengan, chakra transfer, and remotely controlling it.

Jiraiya was teaching him chakra control regardless, which means it can be achieved regardless of being a vessel or not. In fact, Jiraya's own chakra control is not very effective, given by his own statements. That is Bijuu chakra, not base mode chakra that is controlled effectively depending upon bond. It isn't exactly physical training. The Rasangan usage is still far and wide.

 

[EliteRamenNinja]

This thread went perfect. Total ownage. Not one single counter argument where someone could disagree with:
1. Naruto without Kurama is still top 10: SM Naruto has a huge future too!
2. Sasuke could have never handled the Kyuubi as it's Jinchuuriki.
3. Sasuke asked for cheats with Oro's seal and Itachi's eyes.
4. The very most of NarutoBase agree. Good!

 

[TheLastSamurai]

I agree with your 2nd argument ^^

 

[EliteRamenNinja]

I agree with your 2nd argument ^^

Eum, thanks mate but actually all my 3 points are the truth (and the manga proves them right, it's logical).

 

[shelke]

This thread went perfect. Total ownage. Not one single counter argument where someone could disagree with:
1. Naruto without Kurama is still top 10: SM Naruto has a huge future too!
2. Sasuke could have never handled the Kyuubi as it's Jinchuuriki.
3. Sasuke asked for cheats with Oro's seal and Itachi's eyes.
4. The very most of NarutoBase agree. Good!

Lol self-masturbation at its worst.

- Assumption.
- Assumption.
- The seal was forcefully given not asked. Poor manga knowledge.
- 12 - 13 year old majority. I agree with this pointer.

 

[johnnyindigo]

Sasuke without EMS is reduced to six Raiton Variants which he holds a mastery over, together with three powerful Katon attacks, incredible base speed, insane skill in Shuriken Jutsu and Kenjutsu, great perception, traps setting ability etcetra. If this is a fodder, then you need serious help.



You mean your pointless subjective opinion that is as always, very entertaining?



Trained for what? Working with Jiraiya? That sounds so ridiculous and contrived. It makes zero sense and is made up logic from you, as usual.

- Raiton attacks - Aside of Chidori, he created all 5 by himself.

- Katon attack - His father only taught him the basics, he trained to perfect it himself along with other Katon attacks. In fact, Fugaku was shown to be busy with Itachi as well. After the Massacre, Sasuke got where he was because of his own hard work. And Naruto was ... well, let's not even go there.

- Shuriken and Kenjutsu - He perfected it himself, and progressed it further from part one string and Shuriken manipulation.

Compare this to Naruto's Kurama training - He just formed a bond. Meditated for Kurama to convert itself to his *****. The hard work. Don't even go there that he used Rasangan and all that on Kurama, when that battle was inside his consciousness. It wasn't even an actual battle in a physical realm.

That and his clone techniques, and large pool of Uzumaki chakra. Another mode of hard work.

Sigh, I guess it would be rude not to respond.
Sasuke w/o ems
1. You mentioned perception? BLIND
2. His katons come from a result of his uchiha heritage no?
3. Can't use chido because of tunnel vision, BLIND
4. His above average shuriken jutsu, comes because of his sharingans abilities to help him, BLIND
5. Trap setting abilites.........
6. Kenjutsu, BLIND

Sasuke is no longer a good ninja w/o his uchiha clan heritage not my fault its true.

Your post was amusing nonetheless

His raiton ability comes from the fact that kakashi taught him chidori, which he wouldn't have taught him if he didn't have sharingan

You're mad!!!!!!
If you respond your post will get picked apart again,
In the words of Fez from that 70s show, GOOD DAY SIR!

 

[EliteRamenNinja]

Lol self-masturbation at its worst.

- Assumption.
- Assumption.
- The seal was forcefully given not asked. Poor manga knowledge.
- 12 - 13 year old majority. I agree with this pointer.

The fact you reported me for a meme I posted against your silly arguments, proves me right that you are the one who's extremely butthurt. You are not on the same league, kid. Go to bed. Not only me, but also 3-4 others already destroyed your silly points in the last pages.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

The one flaw people miss when they say "Naruto still has sage mode, But sasuke is fodder without sharingan" Is that naruto only learned Sage Mode because of pain, who only attacked for Kurama.

 

[johnnyindigo]

The one flaw people miss when they say "Naruto still has sage mode, But sasuke is fodder without sharingan" Is that naruto only learned Sage Mode because of pain, who only attacked for Kurama.

Lmao fam, what are you saying... Now you're getting into way too many technical stuff
As jiraiya's pupil it is only inevitable that naruto would have learned SM

 

[EliteRamenNinja]

The one flaw people miss when they say "Naruto still has sage mode, But sasuke is fodder without sharingan" Is that naruto only learned Sage Mode because of pain, who only attacked for Kurama.

And this changes what?

 

[shelke]

Sigh, I guess it would be rude not to respond.
Sasuke w/o ems
1. You mentioned perception? BLIND
2. His katons come from a result of his uchiha heritage no?
3. Can't use chido because of tunnel vision, BLIND
4. His above average shuriken jutsu, comes because of his sharingans abilities to help him, BLIND
5. Trap setting abilites.........
6. Kenjutsu, BLIND

Sasuke is no longer a good ninja w/o his uchiha clan heritage not my fault its true.

Your post was amusing nonetheless

His raiton ability comes from the fact that kakashi taught him chidori, which he wouldn't have taught him if he didn't have sharingan

You're mad!!!!!!
If you respond your post will get picked apart again,
In the words of Fez from that 70s show, GOOD DAY SIR!

1. Sasuke is also born with his powerful eyes, remember. Just like Naruto with Kurama. Just like that. Take that power from his eyes away, and Sasuke is just a fodder.

- Learn to read the dynamics of the thread.

- Is this an opinion or a BS opinion? Katon attacks are learned and perfected, and are not KG that comes automatically with blood-line.

- Assumption

The rest of your post is poor garbage. Picked apart? Man, you must be high. Your post is beneath Ramen guy's and that's saying a lot. Don't respond to me now.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Show me the scan. He probably meant that he needed it as a tie breaker. Killing each other doesn't count as beating. Summoners have been shown summoning multiple animals at a single time. Given how much stronger Naruto's chakra gets, he could summon all 3 no problem. Time limits isn't really related to stamina. It's just how long the balance of sage chakra is maintained.

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Here he say he couldnt beat sasuke. Cant find with kurama thou.
Ma was the one to summon toads, if naruto did his chakra levels would go down. Yes duration has to do with stamina. If naruto however throws 3-4 FRS duration will end, so its a mix really.

You always talk about gays, dude. Come out the closhet with your issues.
PS: You have guts to call others gay when you're a Sasuke-fan, oh the irony lol, I give you that. xd xd xd

Yes i do. Sasuke doesnt transform into gals and doesnt hyperventilate over naruto

 

[EliteRamenNinja]

The rest of your post is poor garbage. Picked apart? Man, you must be high. Your post is beneath Ramen guy's and that's saying a lot. Don't respond to me now.

Says someone who IGNORED all my facts (on purpose) on page 6 and 7 from this thread. The only thing you do is trying to insult people but this on a lame level. You are only good for repping or negging people, just stay out of debates.