Who would kick who's but: Sasuke EMS, or Itachi (Alive)

[Turson]

Sasuke of course. Itachi has nothing to hurt him when his using his Susanoo. Of course, it works both ways, but kaleidoscope techniques arent taxing Sasuke nearly as much as Itachi.

 

[Haru70]

Sasuke destroys.

 

[Minator93]

Itachi because of his superior speed, power, experience, jutsu knowledge. Sasuke may pack superior abilities but still not enough to beat his extraordinary brother. A master with a pebble is better than a noob with kunai U_U

 

[Optimistic]

Most probably Sasuke.

 

[Turson]

A master with a pebble is better than a noob with kunai

You sounds like Sasuke was some noob with his kaleidoscope, which is not the case.

 

[Baka Sennin]

Itachi because of his superior speed, power, experience, jutsu knowledge. Sasuke may pack superior abilities but still not enough to beat his extraordinary brother. A master with a pebble is better than a noob with kunai U_U

can't say I agree buddy, given that that quote heavily implied that sasuke had superior mastery of his sharingan than itachi, when he overpowered itachi's ms with a regular 3-tomoe. sasuke has counters for everything itachi can throw at him, whereas itachi doesn't have counters for sasuke's enton spam, susanoo arrows, superior katon, raikiri spear and senbon etc, apart from susanoo. and sasuke can hold susanoo for way longer than itachi ever could

 

[Minator93]

You sounds like Sasuke was some noob with his kaleidoscope, which is not the case.

People usually overrate Sasuke because of his Enton, however Itachi is a seasoned Mangekyo user, he used it for more than 8 years and managed to keep his eyesight intact, whereas Sasuke used it for few weeks and ruined it, granted now he has the EMS but that's the basic difference.

Itachi has much more experience, he was trained by Obito who was trained by Madara, indirectly Itachi has had some of Madara's teachings. Also the Kabuto fight. I've proved it more than one occasions that Sasuke with better jutsus failed because of lacking in speed, reactions, brains or quick thinking whereas Itachi was able to set one strategy after another. His speed, his reactions, and his vast knowledge about everything would allow him to win.

Itachi only loses a battle where his opponent is overwhelmingly powerful otherwise he can find a way even at the cost of his eyes or life to beat him. That's how Kishi designed him U_U

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[Doflamingo]

If not edo than Sasuke wins. If edo than itachi wins =D

 

[KidGamer65]

No matter what anyone's opinion on this fight is, it will always come down to one thing....Susanoo. And we all know who will fall first in a battle of Susanoo, I'm betting on the guy with the illness.

 

[VolatileSoul]

Sasuke. He can pretty much counter everything Itachi has to throw at him, unless Itachi has some unknown haxxed ability he hasn't shown, and since he is Itachi, I wouldn't put that past him, but from what he has shown though, Sasuke. He can handle Itachi's base abilities. Only his clone feints are gonna be a problem. He handles everything else just fine. Can't take Itachi in taijutsu but doesn't need to. Is practically immune to Itachi's genjutsu, can manipulate Amaterasu, and while he can't hurt Itachi in Susnano'o, he can just keep him on the defensive until Itachi's stamina runs out.

 

[Bogard]

Itachi because of his superior speed, power, experience, jutsu knowledge. Sasuke may pack superior abilities but still not enough to beat his extraordinary brother. A master with a pebble is better than a noob with kunai U_U

I'll have to disagree here bro U_U

All what you listed won't have a great importance in this battle where they would mostly rely on their MS techniques either to defeat the enemy or to survive. Sasuke almost all the time starts out with MS techniques, which would automatically force Itachi to use his own as well at the very least to survive or find opportunities to win the battle. It has already been shown that

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, so let alone supersonic attacks like Sasuke arrows. All that will force him to keep up Susanoo himself.

Sasuke is immune to genjutsu to genjutsu(tsukuyomi included) either because he already broke it or because he has Itachi's eyes, Amaterasu would be a waste of chakra since it will only help Sasuke even more who could manipulate it even better than himself, so he could throw it back to Itachi anytime or change its form in whatever he wants. So it would turn out to a Susanoo vs Susanoo battle, but neither one could really crush the other, but Sasuke having a superiority in stamina, something that

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(reason why he asks Itachi if he could still use Susanoo), he would most likely turn out victorious in the end

 

[blackstar9]

sasuke wins . sasuke talent passed itachi expectations during their fight . Also itachi and oro predicted sasuke would surpass him . Ems > ms why is this even a question ?

 

[Turson]

People usually overrate Sasuke because of his Enton, however Itachi is a seasoned Mangekyo user, he used it for more than 8 years and managed to keep his eyesight intact, whereas Sasuke used it for few weeks and ruined it, granted now he has the EMS but that's the basic difference.

Itachi must have used his MS very rarely, since he was able to keep it for 8 years - thats the only explanation. In Sasukes case he had to use MS techniques very ofter in very short span of time, he was facing one Kage-level opponent after another, his eyes didnt even have time to rest.

That, however, doesnt mean he isnt skillfull with using his kaleidoscope techniques.

No matter what anyone's opinion on this fight is, it will always come down to one thing....Susanoo. And we all know who will fall first in a battle of Susanoo, I'm betting on the guy with the illness.

And with inferior eyes that are taxing him more. Yeah, I agree.

 

[RinneBlitz]

Itachi>3-tomoed Sasuke
Itachi>MS Sasuke
Itachi<EMS Sasuke

Sasuke wins this.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

I'm not picking any sides, but isn't Itachi's shield unbreakable, and his sword unbeatable when hitting? Have people also said that Sasuke>KCM in speed?

 

[Turson]

I'm not picking any sides, but isn't Itachi's shield unbreakable, and his sword unbeatable when hitting?

Nope, his sword just seals away anything it pierces, but its not like it can pierce through anything.

 

[Ababeel]

Itachi is around MS Sasuke's level.
EMS Sasuke is way out of his level.

 

[Minator93]

I'll have to disagree here bro U_U

All what you listed won't have a great importance in this battle where they would mostly rely on their MS techniques either to defeat the enemy or to survive. Sasuke almost all the time starts out with MS techniques, which would automatically force Itachi to use his own as well at the very least to survive or find opportunities to win the battle. It has already been shown that

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, so let alone supersonic attacks like Sasuke arrows. All that will force him to keep up Susanoo himself.

Sasuke is immune to genjutsu to genjutsu(tsukuyomi included) either because he already broke it or because he has Itachi's eyes, Amaterasu would be a waste of chakra since it will only help Sasuke even more who could manipulate it even better than himself, so he could throw it back to Itachi anytime or change its form in whatever he wants. So it would turn out to a Susanoo vs Susanoo battle, but neither one could really crush the other, but Sasuke having a superiority in stamina, something that

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(reason why he asks Itachi if he could still use Susanoo), he would most likely turn out victorious in the end

On the paper it would appear Sasuke wins. But in reality Itachi takes this. I'm not saying it a walk in the park but he takes it.

You're right about Sasuke starting with MS but I guarantee you Itachi won't, about him punching Susanoo with Susanoo well he did it because he was an Edo Spammer.

Look what he did

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, Amaterasu to kill a crow. The alive Itachi would never do something so reckless.

He can dodge that with his speed and reflexes which I believe are slightly above Kakashi's level which are better than Sasuke's.

And Sasuke isn't immune his genjutsu, Sasuke has fell for each and every illusion, Itachi never wanted to hurt him so there's no way of knowing what Itachi would've done. About Tsukuyomi, its debatable Sasuke claims he broke it but imo Itachi undid it because the fight was planned.

Also Itachi always uses his head and clones all the time, we know that unless you're high caliber sensor you can't tell the difference, ITachi can make his clone get in near vicinity and simply have them explode.

Technically Sasuke can counter most of Itachi's abilities but Itachi counters Sasuke's as well. It all comes down to who uses his head and comes up with great strategy.

Also as I mentioned in my earlier post, experince the single most important factor! Itachi has for more, the best example wpuld be Itachi,Naruto,KB vs Nagato. Naruto had the knowledge but Itachi had the experienced and that's why he came up with perfect strategy.

Again beating DSM Kabuto, in the viz Itachi clearly states that It was far too much than he had bargained for but still manged to pull the victory, now I know the whole edo thing but the way Itachi achieved his victory had much to do with his brains. experience and knowledge than his edo tensei form.

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Itachi only loses a battle where his opponent is overwhelmingly powerful otherwise he can find a way even at the cost of his eyes or life to beat him. That's how Kishi designed him.

 

[Turson]

It all comes down to who uses his head and comes up with great strategy.

Nope. It will come down to who will last longer. Thats the most important factor here.

 

[Minator93]

Nope. It will come down to who will last longer. Thats the most important factor here.

Sasuke is the spammer, Itachi never spams anything other than his strategies. He takes this.