FRS did more damage to it than that Rasengan Barrage did, V2 Susanoo already blocked something far stronger than FRS. He wasn't even stunned from that barrage, he simply got thrown back and landed on his feet.
@kidgamer. The stupid thing won't let me use spoiler tags! I don't trust narutowiki that much if I find something different in the manga. I stopped trusting it on keeping up with information when I found that it stated that Hiruzen was the strongest hokage when it's clearly Hashirama.:sy: (to the wiki, not you)
Show me a scan where it was stated that KCM enhances ninjutsu. I don't remember this despite watching or reading the manga. Also, Obito said that the 10 tails' skin was tough, and was confident that it could withstand the alliance's attacks while he talked with Naruto. Also, it knocked Kurama down. How is susanoo tanking that undamaged? What about spamming massive ransengan?
As for susanoo, where the heck is Itachi's V3 then!
Have we seen Sasuke using Inferno style to the extent that you claim it is? No! Not even in EMS did we see him use multiple projectiles other than black yasaka yagamata. Also, with MS, Sasuke hasn't been shown to simultaneously use V3 susanoo with inferno style if that's one of your arguments. He'd have to choose one or another. Another counter (not for clones) for amaterasu and inferno is walls of clones. This prevents Sasuke from seeing Naruto. Let's not forget that he can summon Ma and Pa (oh how I hate using that!) and use sage art: dust storm.
I might come with more later, but that's all for now. I can read the manga. I might not be the best, but I'm certainly better than the idiot who said that Sasuke>KCM Naruto in speed.
FRS did more damage to it than that Rasengan Barrage did, V2 Susanoo already blocked something far stronger than FRS. He wasn't even stunned from that barrage, he simply got thrown back and landed on his feet.
Considering the fact that logic, events and feats in the manga say that V2 can block Kirin but get destroyed, I have no reason to believe FRS, which is weaker than Kirin, will get through.
Considering the fact that logic, events and feats in the manga say that V2 can block Kirin but get destroyed, I have no reason to believe FRS, which is weaker than Kirin, will get through.
Considering the fact that logic, events and feats in the manga say that V2 can block Kirin but get destroyed, I have no reason to believe FRS, which is weaker than Kirin, will get through.
@kidgamer. The stupid thing won't let me use spoiler tags! I don't trust narutowiki that much if I find something different in the manga. I stopped trusting it on keeping up with information when I found that it stated that Hiruzen was the strongest hokage when it's clearly Hashirama.:sy: (to the wiki, not you)
Those are manga scans, and they show that there are 4 level so Susanoo, not 3 like you listed. It seems that you conveniently forgot about the Ribcage Susanoo..lol.
Show me a scan where it was stated that KCM enhances ninjutsu. I don't remember this despite watching or reading the manga. Also, Obito said that the 10 tails' skin was tough, and was confident that it could withstand the alliance's attacks while he talked with Naruto. Also, it knocked Kurama down. How is susanoo tanking that undamaged? What about spamming massive ransengan?
@bold: Really now? It powered up Naruto's Rasengan at the VoTE, it made the alliances fodder moves much stronger as well. Its all the Kyuubi's chakra.
A Rasengan Barrage destroying a V2 Susanoo makes no sense when the same level of Susanoo tanked Kirin. Kirin>>>FRS>Rasengan Barrage that knocked Kurama down.
Spamming Massive Rasengan will not only cause his Sage chakra to run out quick, it won't even do any damage to a V2 and above Susanoo.
As for susanoo, where the heck is Itachi's V3 then!
Have we seen Sasuke using Inferno style to the extent that you claim it is? No! Not even in EMS did we see him use multiple projectiles other than black yasaka yagamata. Also, with MS, Sasuke hasn't been shown to simultaneously use V3 susanoo with inferno style if that's one of your arguments. He'd have to choose one or another. Another counter (not for clones) for amaterasu and inferno is walls of clones. This prevents Sasuke from seeing Naruto. Let's not forget that he can summon Ma and Pa (oh how I hate using that!) and use sage art: dust storm.
This whole paragraph is an extremely weak argument. Extremely weak.
-Kagtsuchi lets him manipulate the flames to whatever shape he wants.
-Lmao, He can use Enton w/ whatever level of Susanoo he wants unless you have some kind of proof that stops him from doing so. He doesn't have to choose one or another.
-Walls of clones? You do know that he can either use Susanoo to slap these clones away or he can burn them all down with Enton right? They all poof in one hit. Any moment that Naruto is in view is the moment he dies to Amaterasu.
It took Jiraiya a whole chapter to summon Ma and Pa, not to mention he can't use any jutsu while doing so, he might as well ask Sasuke to kill him.
It doesn't change the fact that one is far superior to another. FRS's specialty is piercing, piercing the skin and destroying the cells. Against a non human target it does cutting damage.
Those are manga scans, and they show that there are 4 level so Susanoo, not 3 like you listed. It seems that you conveniently forgot about the Ribcage Susanoo..lol.
@bold: Really now? It powered up Naruto's Rasengan at the VoTE, it made the alliances fodder moves much stronger as well. Its all the Kyuubi's chakra.
A Rasengan Barrage destroying a V2 Susanoo makes no sense when the same level of Susanoo tanked Kirin. Kirin>>>FRS>Rasengan Barrage that knocked Kurama down.
Spamming Massive Rasengan will not only cause his Sage chakra to run out quick, it won't even do any damage to a V2 and above Susanoo.
You must be registered for see images
That is his V3.
This whole paragraph is an extremely weak argument. Extremely weak.
-Kagtsuchi lets him manipulate the flames to whatever shape he wants.
-Lmao, He can use Enton w/ whatever level of Susanoo he wants unless you have some kind of proof that stops him from doing so. He doesn't have to choose one or another.
-Walls of clones? You do know that he can either use Susanoo to slap these clones away or he can burn them all down with Enton right? They all poof in one hit. Any moment that Naruto is in view is the moment he dies to Amaterasu.
It took Jiraiya a whole chapter to summon Ma and Pa, not to mention he can't use any jutsu while doing so, he might as well ask Sasuke to kill him.
It doesn't change the fact that one is far superior to another. FRS's specialty is piercing, piercing the skin and destroying the cells. Against a non human target it does cutting damage.
Uh, Naruto transferred chakra while in biju mode. On top of all that, KCM is clearly different from the other jinchuriki forms. It doesn't even use tailed beast shockwave like V1. The fact that you can't provide a scan showing this stated, tells me that you have no proof.
Your response for the last paragraph (minus Ma and Pa) is stupid. Not gonna even respond to it. Except that Sasuke only learned how to combine the 2 with a complete susanoo when he got EMS. This is before that.
Just because massive ransengan wouldn't destroy susanoo in V3, doesn't mean that it wouldn't be damaged.
This will be my last post for today. I'll do more tomorrow.
Uh, Naruto transferred chakra while in biju mode. On top of all that, KCM is clearly different from the other jinchuriki forms. It doesn't even use tailed beast shockwave like V1. The fact that you can't provide a scan showing this stated, tells me that you have no proof.
:sy: Kyuubi's chakra has ALWAYS buffed his moves. Always, don't even know why you are clinging to this point like it matters at all.
You must be registered for see images
Believe what you will though, it doesn't matter to me as it doesn't hinder my argument in the slightest.
Your response for the last paragraph (minus Ma and Pa) is stupid. Not gonna even respond to it. Except that Sasuke only learned how to combine the 2 with a complete susanoo when he got EMS. This is before that.
No proof saying he can't do it when Kagutsuchi is stated to allow him to change Amaterasu's form = a baseless post. Don't bring up this nonsense again unless you have proof he can't do it. End of story.
@bold: See, this is why you can't read the manga.
You must be registered for see images
Do you not see the black flame in his Susanoos hand? That is Enton. End of story. You're wrong, deal with it.
Just because massive ransengan wouldn't destroy susanoo in V3, doesn't mean that it wouldn't be damaged.
This will be my last post for today. I'll do more tomorrow.
A Susanoo stronger than the one that blocked Kirin, which is many times stronger than FRS, isn't getting a scratch from a Massive Rasengan, which is many times weaker than FRS. Use some damn logic...geez.
Kid, honestly, it was stated in the DB that Chou Oodama Rasengan would make a mountain explode if it hit.
The Sage Art: Ultra Big Ball Rasengan is a gigantic Rasengan created by Naruto Uzumaki, enhanced with sage chakra. Although its destructive effects have not been seen, it was used to distract Kurama. Presumably, it is as strong as Jiraiya's version which was said to be able to carve away a mountain if it exploded.
Just like it was stated that Yata can block all attacks or that Preta absorbs an unlimited amount of chakra. Feats>DB descriptions.
Naruto used the same kind of Rasengan, but it was in Base, though it shouldn't be that much weaker than the Sage Art version used by Jiraiya...it didn't even crack or dent Madara's weakest Susanoo.
You must be registered for see links
Yet I'm supposed to believe the Sage Art version can go from being unable to damage Madara's Susanoo to being able to blow up a Mountain? No way.
You notice Madara hops in V3 right after the Rasengan hits him, which suggests that not only can he jump from Ribcage to V3 ( which I believe you said was impossible earlier ) but it might be that the V2 or even 3 blocked the hit.
Also consider the posibility of Madara using Preta Path through his Susanoo ( it has happened before for him to use Rinnegan through his Susanoo when he pulled down meteors ).
As for the databook, why would Kishi bother writing bullshit in it?
though it shouldn't be that much weaker than the Sage Art version used by Jiraiya...
You notice Madara hops in V3 right after the Rasengan hits him, which suggests that not only can he jump from Ribcage to V3 ( which I believe you said was impossible earlier ) but it might be that the V2 or even 3 blocked the hit.
As for the databook, why would Kishi bother writing bullshit in it?
Exactly, he goes V2 AFTER the Rasengan slams into his Ribcage, no damage was done.
He wrote that Yata could block every single attack without fail, that is pure bullshit right there.
First of all its not "waaaay" bigger. It only looks like that because its more zoomed in on Jiraiya and Pain. Its going to need a serious increase in size for me to believe it can go from not being able to damage a lvl 1 Susanoo to being able to hollow out a Mountain if it exploded. Even if its true, it doesn't change the fact that its inferior to FRS.
For samone who defeated pain, i doubt ms sasuke would be a problem unless you fynk mssasuke > pain, den i know wher you r kaming from.
But to be frank, altho naruto sed he cudnt defeat him dssnt mean sasuke would also defeat him. Remember wat naruto sed to sasuke, we wld both die if we fight. So i fynk their strength were matched.
6 Paths of Pain>>>>SM Naruto. Not only was Tendo weaker from soloing Konoha and Shinra Tensei blowing everything up, he was holding back by trying not to kill Naruto.
You must be registered for see images
If pain were really trying to kill Naruto, he would have been dead. Even deader if he were at full strength.
Exactly, he goes V2 AFTER the Rasengan slams into his Ribcage, no damage was done.
He wrote that Yata could block every single attack without fail, that is pure bullshit right there.
First of all its not "waaaay" bigger. It only looks like that because its more zoomed in on Jiraiya and Pain. Its going to need a serious increase in size for me to believe it can go from not being able to damage a lvl 1 Susanoo to being able to hollow out a Mountain if it exploded. Even if its true, it doesn't change the fact that its inferior to FRS.
Naruto can't dodge Amaterasu
Naruto got nothing to destroy with Susanoo....Rasenshuriken can't even break V2 of Susanoo let alone V3 or V4
Naruto got nothing on Gejutsu
Naruto can't dodge Susanoo arrow
Yes, the Genjutsu becomes more powerful, but does Naruto have Genjutsu usage? no
The 3 Toads can be easily turn into ash with Amaterasu or Blaze Release.
You must be registered for see links
You must be registered for see images
^Here is the Toads having so much trouble with Pain dogs forget about Beaked Bird summoning.
You must be registered for see links
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see links
You must be registered for see images
^While Amaterasu easily destroyed Pain dogs and Beaked Bird summoning and Sasuke Amaterasu is superior to Itachi's in every way.
Power: yes, Naruto does have a lot of power in Sage Mode, but so does Susanoo.
You must be registered for see links
You must be registered for see images
^Susanoo has proven that it has a dangerous power that can easily destroy the ground and this only Incomplete.
You must be registered for see links
You must be registered for see images
^Again, yet another example of Susanoo power.
Sage Mode Clones or Clones doesn't matter in Sasuke's way.
You must be registered for see images
^Sasuke new Susanoo showed that it can easily damage multiple enemies at the same time and good use against a Clone user.
Sensor Ability: yes, Naruto is by far the best sensor in NV, but that Sensor Ability doesn't matter if your body can't move at the same speed.....it's like a Sharingan user.
Ninjutsu: Naruto has a good Ninjutsu usage, but none i mean none of his Rasengans or Rasenshurkien(his most power move is any use against Susanoo.
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
^Ribcage Susanoo>>>>>>Chou Odama Rasengan
Susanoo>>>>>>Rasenshurkien
You must be registered for see images
^Susanoo>Gaara's Ultimate Defence and this was only the Incomplete Susanoo.........Final Susanoo>Complete Susanoo>Incomplete Susanoo>Ribcage Susanoo
^Susanoo arrow: this technique is easily on of the fastest in NV that a fast Ninja like "Kakashi" needed to use "Kamui" to save himself so unless you're saying SM Naruto is as fast as Kamui then you shouldn't even start debating.
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
You must be registered for see images
^Now this attack doesn't just have an amount of speed that's nearly hard to Dodge, but also a force that can easily go throw Mokuton.
When did SM Naruto dodged react Juubi beam or are making **** up like always to save yourself or maybe, are talking about BM? because if you are then this thread is about SM Naruto not BM Naruto.
You must be registered for see images
^Now the Railkage(who's the next to Naruto and Minato being the 3rd fastest Ninja in the world)need to go on his V2 just to counter the Amaterasu
You must be registered for see images
^CO even said "He's going to counter it with his "Shunshin no Jutsu" and this when he at his full speed.
Sasuk also has Hawk summoning.....he can easily fly and shot down Amaterasu fireballs and destroy Naruto's Clones and the Toads and Naruto no way to reach Sasuke.
You must be registered for see images
^Hawk Summoning
Last, but not least
You must be registered for see links
You must be registered for see images
^Naruto himself admitted that his SM is Beneath Sasuke's MS......look how that turn out to be
'(
