Cant Deny Manga.. MS sasuke>SM naruto

[Minator93]

Lol seems like people still believe in MS Sasuke > SM Naruto BS

Let me first list the absolute 1 shot that SM Naruto has over MS Sasuke

Frog Song

Now moving on


1st we know that SM Naruto's speed is above Sasuke's MS Sasuke wasn't even able to keep up with Killer Bee's movements when SM Naruto

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Pain's path and fought edo 3rd raikage a speedster with ease.

Physical strength - Lol this

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And Baku was able to shit on Sasuke's Susanoo.

Actual combat, Sasuke gets soloed if he fights with SN Naruto without Susanoo

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Naruto himself senses every attack so he doesn't get hit and even if he does Lol nothing's gonna happen to him. Look what he was able to do to

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Who is above MS Sasuke in every aspect and was using his strongest and fastest attack[

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Also about Amaterasu hurting him well that's complete BS why? well first as posted earlier he know an attack even before it happens so everything Sasuke has to offer gets auto dodged, heck he was the one who sensed Juubi's attack even before BM Naruto [

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] And let me remind you Juubi's attack range wise, speed wise, power wise >>>>>> MS Sasuke's every attack U_U

And now for the main thing

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is how SM is and how it works, the Natural energy which can't be seen or sensed unless you're a perfect Sage, forms an aura around the user, So that's how Naruto doesn't feel pain or knows everything before it happens, The Amaterasu will only hover around Naruto, wont even get past the Natural energy barrier, although that doesn't really matter when Naruto knows when and where the amaterasu will be because of his SM.

About Susanoo covered with Enton, Lol Naruto sends his clones after it, a clone can do whatever the real one does, Sasuke doesn't have the same mobility when he's using Susanoo, Naruto clones go in w/out fear of anything toss that Susanoo or pull Sasuke out of it, [Its possible to do that as seen

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Wonder what Sasuke will do if clones get a hold of him and pull him out and other Naruto's fire FRS, he doesn't have the Susanoo in that point in time and No Rinnegan, what he has is know as one of the most painful DEATH.

Genjutsu? Lol don't even joke 1st Genjutsus wont work on clones and the caster doen't even understand it till he undoes it, taking that risk will be the death of Sasuke and even if somehow manages to get the real one, the clones will interfere or Kurama snaps him out of it within seconds.

Everything Sasuke has to offer gets countered where as Sasuke do not posses defenses against SM Narutom his only defense the Susanoo will fail to the overwhelmingly strong clones as mentioned above.

Quit fanboying and fucking accept it already SM Naruto > MS Sasuke.

 

[naruttebayo]

Lol seems like people still believe in MS Sasuke > SM Naruto BS

Let me first list the absolute 1 shot that SM Naruto has over MS Sasuke

Frog Song

Now moving on


1st we know that SM Naruto's speed is above Sasuke's MS Sasuke wasn't even able to keep up with Killer Bee's movements when SM Naruto

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Pain's path and fought edo 3rd raikage a speedster with ease.

Physical strength - Lol this

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And Baku was able to shit on Sasuke's Susanoo.

Actual combat, Sasuke gets soloed if he fights with SN Naruto without Susanoo

Here's what happens when you engage SM Naruto in close combat [

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Naruto himself senses every attack so he doesn't get hit and even if he does Lol nothing's gonna happen to him. Look what he was able to do to

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Who is above MS Sasuke in every aspect and was using his strongest and fastest attack[

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Also about Amaterasu hurting him well that's complete BS why? well first as posted earlier he know an attack even before it happens so everything Sasuke has to offer gets auto dodged, heck he was the one who sensed Juubi's attack even before BM Naruto [

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] And let me remind you Juubi's attack range wise, speed wise, power wise >>>>>> MS Sasuke's every attack U_U

And now for the main thing

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is how SM is and how it works, the Natural energy which can't be seen or sensed unless you're a perfect Sage, forms an aura around the user, So that's how Naruto doesn't feel pain or knows everything before it happens, The Amaterasu will only hover around Naruto, wont even get past the Natural energy barrier, although that doesn't really matter when Naruto knows when and where the amaterasu will be because of his SM.

About Susanoo covered with Enton, Lol Naruto sends his clones after it, a clone can do whatever the real one does, Sasuke doesn't have the same mobility when he's using Susanoo, Naruto clones go in w/out fear of anything toss that Susanoo or pull Sasuke out of it, [Its possible to do that as seen

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Wonder what Sasuke will do if clones get a hold of him and pull him out and other Naruto's fire FRS, he doesn't have the Susanoo in that point in time and No Rinnegan, what he has is know as one of the most painful DEATH.

Genjutsu? Lol don't even joke 1st Genjutsus wont work on clones and the caster doen't even understand it till he undoes it, taking that risk will be the death of Sasuke and even if somehow manages to get the real one, the clones will interfere or Kurama snaps him out of it within seconds.

Everything Sasuke has to offer gets countered where as Sasuke do not posses defenses against SM Narutom his only defense the Susanoo will fail to the overwhelmingly strong clones as mentioned above.

Quit fanboying and fucking accept it already SM Naruto > MS Sasuke.

this should pretty much end the thread
any way i believe zetsu opinion should not be neglected

 

[AzR]

Lol seems like people still believe in MS Sasuke > SM Naruto BS

Let me first list the absolute 1 shot that SM Naruto has over MS Sasuke

Frog Song

Now moving on


1st we know that SM Naruto's speed is above Sasuke's MS Sasuke wasn't even able to keep up with Killer Bee's movements when SM Naruto

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Pain's path and fought edo 3rd raikage a speedster with ease.

Physical strength - Lol this

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And Baku was able to shit on Sasuke's Susanoo.

Actual combat, Sasuke gets soloed if he fights with SN Naruto without Susanoo

Here's what happens when you engage SM Naruto in close combat [

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Naruto himself senses every attack so he doesn't get hit and even if he does Lol nothing's gonna happen to him. Look what he was able to do to

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Who is above MS Sasuke in every aspect and was using his strongest and fastest attack[

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Also about Amaterasu hurting him well that's complete BS why? well first as posted earlier he know an attack even before it happens so everything Sasuke has to offer gets auto dodged, heck he was the one who sensed Juubi's attack even before BM Naruto [

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] And let me remind you Juubi's attack range wise, speed wise, power wise >>>>>> MS Sasuke's every attack U_U

And now for the main thing

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is how SM is and how it works, the Natural energy which can't be seen or sensed unless you're a perfect Sage, forms an aura around the user, So that's how Naruto doesn't feel pain or knows everything before it happens, The Amaterasu will only hover around Naruto, wont even get past the Natural energy barrier, although that doesn't really matter when Naruto knows when and where the amaterasu will be because of his SM.

About Susanoo covered with Enton, Lol Naruto sends his clones after it, a clone can do whatever the real one does, Sasuke doesn't have the same mobility when he's using Susanoo, Naruto clones go in w/out fear of anything toss that Susanoo or pull Sasuke out of it, [Its possible to do that as seen

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Wonder what Sasuke will do if clones get a hold of him and pull him out and other Naruto's fire FRS, he doesn't have the Susanoo in that point in time and No Rinnegan, what he has is know as one of the most painful DEATH.

Genjutsu? Lol don't even joke 1st Genjutsus wont work on clones and the caster doen't even understand it till he undoes it, taking that risk will be the death of Sasuke and even if somehow manages to get the real one, the clones will interfere or Kurama snaps him out of it within seconds.

Everything Sasuke has to offer gets countered where as Sasuke do not posses defenses against SM Narutom his only defense the Susanoo will fail to the overwhelmingly strong clones as mentioned above.

Quit fanboying and fucking accept it already SM Naruto > MS Sasuke.

nuff said..

 

[Biozim]

So true Lol
Naruto admittedly acknowledge Sasuke's superiority over him when it comes to their own power,
he had to use his borrowed power once again in order to defeat him eventually.

Where's the laughing loop when you need it?

 

[AGoodBoy]

Lol seems like people still believe in MS Sasuke > SM Naruto BS

Let me first list the absolute 1 shot that SM Naruto has over MS Sasuke

Frog Song

Now moving on


1st we know that SM Naruto's speed is above Sasuke's MS Sasuke wasn't even able to keep up with Killer Bee's movements when SM Naruto

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Pain's path and fought edo 3rd raikage a speedster with ease.

Physical strength - Lol this

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And Baku was able to shit on Sasuke's Susanoo.

Actual combat, Sasuke gets soloed if he fights with SN Naruto without Susanoo

Here's what happens when you engage SM Naruto in close combat [

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Naruto himself senses every attack so he doesn't get hit and even if he does Lol nothing's gonna happen to him. Look what he was able to do to

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Who is above MS Sasuke in every aspect and was using his strongest and fastest attack[

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Also about Amaterasu hurting him well that's complete BS why? well first as posted earlier he know an attack even before it happens so everything Sasuke has to offer gets auto dodged, heck he was the one who sensed Juubi's attack even before BM Naruto [

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] And let me remind you Juubi's attack range wise, speed wise, power wise >>>>>> MS Sasuke's every attack U_U

And now for the main thing

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is how SM is and how it works, the Natural energy which can't be seen or sensed unless you're a perfect Sage, forms an aura around the user, So that's how Naruto doesn't feel pain or knows everything before it happens, The Amaterasu will only hover around Naruto, wont even get past the Natural energy barrier, although that doesn't really matter when Naruto knows when and where the amaterasu will be because of his SM.

About Susanoo covered with Enton, Lol Naruto sends his clones after it, a clone can do whatever the real one does, Sasuke doesn't have the same mobility when he's using Susanoo, Naruto clones go in w/out fear of anything toss that Susanoo or pull Sasuke out of it, [Its possible to do that as seen

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Wonder what Sasuke will do if clones get a hold of him and pull him out and other Naruto's fire FRS, he doesn't have the Susanoo in that point in time and No Rinnegan, what he has is know as one of the most painful DEATH.

Genjutsu? Lol don't even joke 1st Genjutsus wont work on clones and the caster doen't even understand it till he undoes it, taking that risk will be the death of Sasuke and even if somehow manages to get the real one, the clones will interfere or Kurama snaps him out of it within seconds.

Everything Sasuke has to offer gets countered where as Sasuke do not posses defenses against SM Narutom his only defense the Susanoo will fail to the overwhelmingly strong clones as mentioned above.

Quit fanboying and fucking accept it already SM Naruto > MS Sasuke.

sasuke said killer bee was predictable and did dodge him. he got caught when he was turning around.


Frog Song is a stupid rebuttal since naruto can't fuse with the frogs leaving them wide open to amaterasu. The frogs die as soon as they start to sing - effect isn't instant

Sasuke > Naruto in everything else;

Sharingan Precognition makes him faster and better at predicting

Susano'o is an actual defence, naruto doesn't have any such thing and can't get through that.

Naruto has 2 shots of Rasenshuriken before he goes to base, and becomes fodder food for sasuke.

Amaterasu can burn naruto from range faster than he can react. Seeing bleeding eyes means nothing. Kcm naruto couldn't dodge amaterasu and thought it missed.

sasuke has always been better at taijutsu

Overal: Sasuke has better attack, defence, speed, etc. Naruto doesn't have enough time in SM and all frogs get 1 shotted by susano'o/amaterasu.


I hate both of them, but sasuke is above SM Naruto.
Current Sasuke = Current Naruto

 

[KidGamer65]

Senjutsu (仙術; Literally meaning "Sage Techniques") refers to a specialised field of techniques that allows the user to sense and then gather the natural energy (自然エネルギー, shizen enerugī) around a person. Senjutsu practitioners can then learn to draw the energy of nature inside of them blending it with their own chakra (created from spiritual and physical energy within the shinobi), adding a new dimension of power to the sage's chakra, resulting in the creation of "senjutsu chakra" (仙術チャクラ, senjutsu chakura). This chakra cannot be seen by anyone other than those who have been trained in senjutsu.

This new chakra enables the user to enter an empowered state called Sage Mode, which can then drastically increase the strength of all ninjutsu, genjutsu, and taijutsu. A person who is able to use senjutsu is called a sage (仙人, sennin) and if one perfects sennin mode The user gains the ability to sense chakra around them.


Straight from the 3rd databook one who perfects Sm can sense chakra around them. Now its only reasonable to assume that since amaterasu is a chakra based technique naruto should be able to sense it before it comes out somewhat like nagato did.[

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now the question is can naruto body keep up? i think so, SM has already been shown to increase ones speed and reflexes and sense of danger, An example of it increasing the users speed is when naruto blitzed asura pain.[

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Sm also allows naruto to sense danger greater and faster as stated against the 3rd raikage.[

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Putting all these factors into thought i see no reason why naruto wont be able to dodge amaterasu, especially when signs give off sasuke is about to use amaterasu like the eye bleeding.

The reason why Amaterasu can't be dodged is simply because he isn't fast enough. A needed V2 Armor + Shunshin to just barely dodge it.

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Dodging Amaterasu is only possible if your movements are too fast for the Sharingan to follow, if they aren't then you can't evade it.

As for sasukes genjutsu i hardly see it being a problem here as seeing kurama can simply brake him out of it. Even so naruto has been shown to be capable of braking out genjutsu.[

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Agreed on this point.

Regarding taijutsu they were basically equal in that department if anything SM naruto is probably stronger considering he doesnt need to land a direct hit to damage sasuke.[

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Agreed as well.

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Arrow can be dodged, but only Sage Mode, which Naruto has 5 minutes in. Once it runs out he's helpless and can't evade it.

Pre sasukes Ms sussano isnt much of a threat here as seeing danzo was able to crack it open with the combined efforts of his wind style vaccum blade and his baku summon.[

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I see no reason why a rasenshuriken if anything wont do equal or worse damage to sasukes sussano..

Now this, I disagree.

Danzo's Wind Jutsu not only had many wind blades used together in a rush attack, its power was increased by many times by Baku's suction, hence it being able to break open Susanoo. Baku's suction by itself was strong enough to suck in this Susanoo....so adding the Wind Blades which get buffed will create an attack stronger than SM Naruto's FRS.

FRS was implied to not be able to get through a weaker level of Susanoo during the fight against Madara.

-Naruto waited for them to pull Madara out to throw it.

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-Because Gaara said that if its the same as Sasuke's, attacking it with FRS won't work.

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That was Madara's V2, superior to Sasuke's V2, but not his V3, which is the one Danzo broke through.

Itachi blocked most of Kirin's blast using his own V2 Susanoo.

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Kirin is obviously much much stronger than FRS and most of it was blocked by a V2 Susanoo (I know it was destroyed, but if it blocked something much much stronger and fell, it will block something much much weaker and not be destroyed.) So that means Sasuke's V3 Susanoo should block FRS with little damage.

Some like to say Yata Mirror blocked it, but we already know that Yata Mirror repels attacks it blocks.

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There is also the fact that Fire beats Wind and Sasuke has the highest level of Fire Release, Enton. Using Kagutsuchi he can manipulate and fire off a large enough amount of Enton to nullify and break through FRS, as the fire will become stronger by eating up the wind leaving the Rasengan in the middle to vanish.

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Don't forget that if he uses 2 FRS (If we are using Pain arc SM Naruto) or 3 FRS (If we are using Current SM Naruto) he reverts to base, and that isn't including anything else that he might try.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

-Naruto waited for them to pull Madara out to throw it.

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The clone was already low on chakra ( no KCM cloak ) and so couldn't afford to waste it. When your team buddies can remove Susanoo from the equation, why potentially waste FRS?

-Because Gaara said that if its the same as Sasuke's, attacking it with FRS won't work.

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Correct me if I'm wrong, but Gaara never saw FRS prior to that. He was refering to his own attacks. It has been proven Susanoo can be destroyed on numerous occasions.

Itachi blocked most of Kirin's blast using his own V2 Susanoo.

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We don't know that. We only see that he had V2 up when he got up, but I honestly doubt:

1. He'd take the risk of being hit by Kirin. Why not go V3 for Yata Mirror? It was just for a second anyway.

2. V2 can block Kirin, which almost destroyed a mountain/hill.

Some like to say Yata Mirror blocked it, but we already know that Yata Mirror repels attacks it blocks.

And my explanation to that refutal is that Kirin is natural lightning, not chakra, whereas Yata Mirror blocks chakra, which is why the Susanoo was destroyed.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Amaterasu isn't instant, it just spawns where Sasuke looks, if you are fast enough to escape the Sharingan users vision then you can dodge it. V2 A was able to do this. SM Naruto can't.

2000 clones? Lmao, they all get one shotted by Enton projectiles leaving the real Naruto open.

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If Yata blocked it, it would have been reflected, and Tsunade only cracked a V1 Susanoo, we are talking about a V3 Susanoo here. So thats an invalid comparison.

Comparable effects? Kirin obliterated the Uchiha Hideout, which is as big as a small Mountain. FRS knocked the Kyuubi on the ground and damaged it. FRS doesn't come close to Kirin's power.


Kirin didn't leave Itachi in bad shape, he was barely even hurt from the attack as his Susanoo absorbed most of the damage. It doesn't matter if it was destroyed, it still blocked the impact meaning it can block something much weaker than Kirin without being destroyed.

Not to mention the Susanoo that blocked it doesn't have Yata.

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If he doesn't have them at the start then its a useless tactic, as Sasuke can simply poof his clones, not to mention the 2000 clones nonsense you mentioned above would be impossible if he had other clones gathering Nature Energy as making more than 3 clones would interfere with the ones gathering energy.

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I think Naruto's speed in SM is comparable to A's as he was able to completely outclass the 3rd raikage. Also, there's no way that Sasuke could look directly at all the clones. And what makes you think that it would be easy as that?

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2.Like how Yata mirror reflected the paper bombs?

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Kurama's size is comparable to the hideouts. Also, the scan you showed me does not prove your point. Here's a scan before that.

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No susanoo. This means the link you showed me was him forming the susanoo for the second time. Also, if he wasn't messed up, why was he walking like a zombie? Naruto's SM strength is comparable to Tsunade's.

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This means that Naruto can damage it just by punching it. I think a ransenshuriken can break it, unless it's weaker than Tsunade (lol). How is this scan relevant? That was a more advanced ribcage susanoo. It looks like Madara's 2nd state susanoo. This means that Naruto can be a threat to Sasuke's with taijutsu alone, ransengan variants would annihilate it.

3. The instant Sasuke focuses on trying to destroy a clone, Naruto could blitz him. Also, recently a clone entered sage mode despite the fact that there's hundreds scattered along the battlefield.

 

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We don't know that. We only see that he had V2 up when he got up, but I honestly doubt:

1. He'd take the risk of being hit by Kirin. Why not go V3 for Yata Mirror? It was just for a second anyway.

2. V2 can block Kirin, which almost destroyed a mountain/hill.



And my explanation to that refutal is that Kirin is natural lightning, not chakra, whereas Yata Mirror blocks chakra.

There is no going to V3. The only Susanoo he's been shown to put up instantly is V2 and anything else below that.

This is how long it takes to throw up anything higher than V2.

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There is no way he did all that before Kirin hit him. Its impossible, so he had to have used V2.

Yata doesn't block chakra. It repelled Paper Bomb Tags, Sasuke and his sword, and the Hydra's head. None of which are chakra, so if Yata was used it would have been repelled.

It had to have been V2.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

SM Naruto is stronger than Tsunade as far as I'm concerned, based on the fact that he threw that Rhino dozens of meters into the air.

Tsunade's best feat is lifting Bunta's sword and punching Madara's ribcage. Naruto could probably pick it up and throw it into the air.

There is no going to V3. The only Susanoo he's been shown to put up instantly is V2 and anything else below that.

He had to go into V3 slowly because he was exhausted, in my opinion.

It doesn't really make sense for Susanoo to not be able to go into V3 instantly. I know we never saw it used to V3 directly ( in the Sasuke vs Kakashi fight we see him in V3, but it may have been done off panel ), but there is nothing to suggest it can't. Susanoo is, after all, chakra.

 

[KidGamer65]

I think Naruto's speed in SM is comparable to A's as he was able to completely outclass the 3rd raikage. Also, there's no way that Sasuke could look directly at all the clones. And what makes you think that it would be easy as that?

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Lmao, no. Naruto needed KCM to dodge V2 A. SM isn't cutting it. 3rd Raikage isn't A now is he.

I said Enton not Amaterasu.

2.Like how Yata mirror reflected the paper bombs?

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It did repel them. Just like it did to these.

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Kurama's size is comparable to the hideouts. Also, the scan you showed me does not prove your point. Here's a scan before that.

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Hell no. The Uchiha Hideout is Hill/Mountain Sized. 50% Kurama isn't as big as a Mountain, not to mention FRS only covered its belly and knocked it on the ground while the whole Hideout was destroyed by Kirin. Kirin is FAR stronger than FRS, the fact you are even attempting to argue otherwise shows you can't read a manga properly.

No susanoo. This means the link you showed me was him forming the susanoo for the second time. Also, if he wasn't messed up, why was he walking like a zombie? Naruto's SM strength is comparable to Tsunade's.

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Um? I never said it wasn't destroyed. It simply blocked most of Kirin, unless you think it ripped through and hit Itachi, when it clearly didn't.

Where did you get this from? Tsunade and SM Naruto do not have the same striking strength, to even suggest so is completely absurd and baseless.

This means that Naruto can damage it just by punching it. I think a ransenshuriken can break it, unless it's weaker than Tsunade (lol). How is this scan relevant? That was a more advanced ribcage susanoo. It looks like Madara's 2nd state susanoo. This means that Naruto can be a threat to Sasuke's with taijutsu alone, ransengan variants would annihilate it.

That was a LEVEL 2 Susanoo. Stronger than Madara's level 1 Susanoo, which is the only one Tsunade ever managed to crack. I suggest you go to the wiki page of Susanoo if you don't know what the different levels look like.

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Level 2 is obviously stronger than level 1, and level 3 is stronger than lvl 2 yet you think that Naruto can punch a lvl 3 and crack it when Tsunade punched a lvl 1 cracked it, and she has more striking power than SM Naruto? Don't make me laugh.

@bold: Now I'm seriously wondering if I should keep replying to your nonsense.

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Madara's Ribcage tanked a Chou Oodama Rasengan. Anything V2 and above for Sasuke effortlessly tanks any Rasengan variant.

3. The instant Sasuke focuses on trying to destroy a clone, Naruto could blitz him. Also, recently a clone entered sage mode despite the fact that there's hundreds scattered along the battlefield.

:sy: Blitz Sasuke who can keep up with his movements via Sharingan? Blitz Sasuke while Susanoo is up?

When will you stop wanking Naruto? He doesn't have hundreds of clones on the battlefield, where did you pull that crap from? At the most he had like 13...hundreds. lmao.

 

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He had to go into V3 slowly because he was exhausted, in my opinion.

It doesn't really make sense for Susanoo to not be able to go into V3 instantly. I know we never saw it used to V3 directly ( in the Sasuke vs Kakashi fight we see him in V3, but it may have been done off panel ), but there is nothing to suggest it can't. Susanoo is, after all, chakra.

He was exhausted before so why would be quick even if he used it after Kirin. Not to mention thats just your opinion with no basis.

@bold: The scan of Itachi manifesting it, then it showed being manifested slower than instant is proof.

V2 is the only thing that could have blocked Kirin.

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Lmao, no. Naruto needed KCM to dodge V2 A. SM isn't cutting it. 3rd Raikage isn't A now is he.

I said Enton not Amaterasu.


It did repel them. Just like it did to these.

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Hell no. The Uchiha Hideout is Hill/Mountain Sized. 50% Kurama isn't as big as a Mountain, not to mention FRS only covered its belly and knocked it on the ground while the whole Hideout was destroyed by Kirin. Kirin is FAR stronger than FRS, the fact you are even attempting to argue otherwise shows you can't read a manga properly.


Um? I never said it wasn't destroyed. It simply blocked most of Kirin, unless you think it ripped through and hit Itachi, when it clearly didn't.

Where did you get this from? Tsunade and SM Naruto do not have the same striking strength, to even suggest so is completely absurd and baseless.


That was a LEVEL 2 Susanoo. Stronger than Madara's level 1 Susanoo, which is the only one Tsunade ever managed to crack. I suggest you go to the wiki page of Susanoo if you don't know what the different levels look like.

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Level 2 is obviously stronger than level 1, and level 3 is stronger than lvl 2 yet you think that Naruto can punch a lvl 3 and crack it when Tsunade punched a lvl 1 cracked it, and she has more striking power than SM Naruto? Don't make me laugh.

@bold: Now I'm seriously wondering if I should keep replying to your nonsense.

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Madara's Ribcage tanked a Chou Oodama Rasengan. Anything V2 and above for Sasuke effortlessly tanks any Rasengan variant.



:sy: Blitz Sasuke who can keep up with his movements via Sharingan? Blitz Sasuke while Susanoo is up?

When will you stop wanking Naruto? He doesn't have hundreds of clones on the battlefield, where did you pull that crap from? At the most he had like 13...hundreds. lmao.

I don't have time to reply to you just yet, but I will and I'll have scans. Try to not be jerk just because someone has a different opinion. I'm not wanking, I just think he'd win. Your logic is just as flawed, if not more flawed than mine, whether you accept it or not.U_U

 

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I don't have time to reply to you just yet, but I will and I'll have scans. Try to not be jerk just because someone has a different opinion. I'm not wanking, I just think he'd win. Your logic is just as flawed, if not more flawed than mine, whether you accept it or not.U_U

-You say SM Naruto is as fast as V2 A despite Naruto disagreeing with you.
-You say SM Naruto can blitz Sasuke while he's in Susanoo and has a Sharingan to keep track of his movements.
-You say FRS is comparable to Kirin.
-You say Tsunade can crack a lvl 1 Susanoo so Naruto can crack a lvl 3 by punching it.
-You say Rasengan variants destroy Susanoo despite Madara's weakest Susanoo effortlessly tanking a Chou Oodama Rasengan.

And my logic is flawed? All this garbage has been disproved in canon and it came out of your mouth yet my logic is flawed?

You sound extremely foolish right now.

 

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sasuke said killer bee was predictable and did dodge him. he got caught when he was turning around.


Frog Song is a stupid rebuttal since naruto can't fuse with the frogs leaving them wide open to amaterasu. The frogs die as soon as they start to sing - effect isn't instant

Sasuke > Naruto in everything else;

Sharingan Precognition makes him faster and better at predicting

Susano'o is an actual defence, naruto doesn't have any such thing and can't get through that.

Naruto has 2 shots of Rasenshuriken before he goes to base, and becomes fodder food for sasuke.

Amaterasu can burn naruto from range faster than he can react. Seeing bleeding eyes means nothing. Kcm naruto couldn't dodge amaterasu and thought it missed.

sasuke has always been better at taijutsu

Overal: Sasuke has better attack, defence, speed, etc. Naruto doesn't have enough time in SM and all frogs get 1 shotted by susano'o/amaterasu.


I hate both of them, but sasuke is above SM Naruto.
Current Sasuke = Current Naruto

Do you really think that your post will be entertained? Lol this guy says Current Sasuke = Current Naruto

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Kcm naruto couldn't dodge amaterasu

lololololo

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I think thats different, he was sensing other ninjas chakra/presence dont think thats the same as sensing chakra all around you like sensing a technique like amaterasu i could be wrong though

You're referring to his "evil sensing", but that's irrelevant, because sensing the Hokage and other reinforcements waiting around in Konoha had nothing to do with evil. He clearly sensed their chakra.

His eyes even bleed when hes getting amaterasu off of karin. [

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You have to be joking using that page. Sasuke's eye was not bleeding a second time.

Naurto isnt even using kurama in this fight except for countering sasukes genjutsu which i mentioned he can probably do himself

Kurama himself, as well as Naruto, can be placed under genjutsu. That's the point.

again explain how my kakashi reference was a bad example?

Was Kakashi able to avoid Sasuke's best power i.e the Yamabushi-class Susanoo.

you mean this sussano?

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i dont see how you can count that when sasuke only had it for like 2 seconds and then resorted back to his old sussano form and eventually sussano all together went away.

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It counts since we have not seen it's true power. What Kishimoto is showing right now is frankly not leaps and bounds ahead of what Sasuke would have been capable of without Itachi's eyes.

Can you show me the scan of this page that you are referring to So i can make a better assessment?

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erm..ill stick with nagatos words. If you dont mind.

Stick with what words?

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Nagato was panicking because he felt Itachi's chakra surge. He was clueless as to what jutsu Itachi was about to use based on his interpretation of that chakra, not whether or not any jutsu was headed towards Naruto.

 

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You're referring to his "evil sensing", but that's irrelevant, because sensing the Hokage and other reinforcements waiting around in Konoha had nothing to do with evil. He clearly sensed their chakra.


You have to be joking using that page. Sasuke's eye was not bleeding a second time.


Kurama himself, as well as Naruto, can be placed under genjutsu. That's the point.


Was Kakashi able to avoid Sasuke's best power i.e the Yamabushi-class Susanoo.


It counts since we have not seen it's true power. What Kishimoto is showing right now is frankly not leaps and bounds ahead of what Sasuke would have been capable of without Itachi's eyes.

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Stick with what words?

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Nagato was panicking because he felt Itachi's chakra surge. He was clueless as to what jutsu Itachi was about to use based on his interpretation of that chakra, not whether or not any jutsu was headed towards Naruto.

I do think that having Kurama break Naruto out of genjutsu is unfair due to the fact that he got it later. However, he wouldn't look at Sasuke's eyes. Also, you misinterpreted the manga.

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He was going to use amaterasu. His eye was bleeding, but the crow responded to his MS and used KA. Then he used amaterasu against Nagato when he didn't expect it. Here's what make me think this.

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@kidgamer. I'm coming for you next.

 

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Lmao, no. Naruto needed KCM to dodge V2 A. SM isn't cutting it. 3rd Raikage isn't A now is he.

I said Enton not Amaterasu.


It did repel them. Just like it did to these.

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Hell no. The Uchiha Hideout is Hill/Mountain Sized. 50% Kurama isn't as big as a Mountain, not to mention FRS only covered its belly and knocked it on the ground while the whole Hideout was destroyed by Kirin. Kirin is FAR stronger than FRS, the fact you are even attempting to argue otherwise shows you can't read a manga properly.


Um? I never said it wasn't destroyed. It simply blocked most of Kirin, unless you think it ripped through and hit Itachi, when it clearly didn't.

Where did you get this from? Tsunade and SM Naruto do not have the same striking strength, to even suggest so is completely absurd and baseless.


That was a LEVEL 2 Susanoo. Stronger than Madara's level 1 Susanoo, which is the only one Tsunade ever managed to crack. I suggest you go to the wiki page of Susanoo if you don't know what the different levels look like.

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Level 2 is obviously stronger than level 1, and level 3 is stronger than lvl 2 yet you think that Naruto can punch a lvl 3 and crack it when Tsunade punched a lvl 1 cracked it, and she has more striking power than SM Naruto? Don't make me laugh.

@bold: Now I'm seriously wondering if I should keep replying to your nonsense.

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Madara's Ribcage tanked a Chou Oodama Rasengan. Anything V2 and above for Sasuke effortlessly tanks any Rasengan variant.



:sy: Blitz Sasuke who can keep up with his movements via Sharingan? Blitz Sasuke while Susanoo is up?

When will you stop wanking Naruto? He doesn't have hundreds of clones on the battlefield, where did you pull that crap from? At the most he had like 13...hundreds. lmao.

Tsunade's speed feats aren't as great as SM Naruto's. It's likely that he's as strong.

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Oh yes, I'm SURE it's illogical to say that SM Naruto's as strong as Tsunade. What was I ever thinking?

Inferno style is slower than amaterasu. How could you have come to the conclusion it'd work better?!

Before susanoo are disbanded, they revert to their V1 state before disappearing. This is Madara's V1 dummy.

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There's a pattern to their versions. V1=skeleton.

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V2=humanoid monster that's sometimes half skeleton (except Sasuke).

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V3=cloaked with shrouded face.

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How did you not notice this?

As for tanking massive ransengan. That was base mode you idiot! Sage mode greatly enhances ninjutsu!

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Ransenshuriken can slice through just about anything as well.

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Both modes enhance ninjutsu to a similar degree. Are you suggesting that susanoo can tank what the juubi can't? Absurd!


Now, see what it's like to be on the other side when you insult others? It doesn't feel good does it? It infuriates you. Try considering this before you smart mouth other people again.

 

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Tsunade's speed feats aren't as great as SM Naruto's. It's likely that he's as strong.

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Oh yes, I'm SURE it's illogical to say that SM Naruto's as strong as Tsunade. What was I ever thinking?

First of all, use some goddamn spoiler tags for christ sakes.

Anyway, learn the difference between lifting strength and striking strength, SM Naruto has never shown striking strength on par with Tsunade. Never.

She blew Madara's body up just by punching it, where the hell has SM Naruto ever shown something remotely close to this level of striking strength.

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Inferno style is slower than amaterasu. How could you have come to the conclusion it'd work better?!

Considering the fact that you are making up fanficition like 2000 SM Naruto clones, saying they are all going to dodge multiple Enton projectiles coming at them from multiple directions is just pure foolishness. It doesn't need to faster to hit a giant ass crowd of targets.

Go toss a bunch of rocks at a crowd of 2000 people in one area and see how many you hit opposed to tossing a rock at a few people in an area.

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Oh god, you really can't read for shit can you?

There's a pattern to their versions. V1=skeleton.

This is V1, the ribcage.

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V2=humanoid monster that's sometimes half skeleton (except Sasuke).

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Nope. This is V2.

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V3=cloaked with shrouded face.

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Again, no.

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That is V3.

This is V4.

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It goes ribcage (V1)-->incomplete (V2) Complete (V3) Final (V4) I even gave you a wiki link and you still got the Susanoo levels wrong. Learn 2 read.

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As for tanking massive ransengan. That was base mode you idiot! Sage mode greatly enhances ninjutsu!

Not gonna change it from being tanked by a V1 Susanoo with ZERO DAMAGE AT ALL, to being able to shatter a V3 Susanoo, the simple thought is baseless and filled with stupidity.

Ransenshuriken can slice through just about anything as well.

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Both modes enhance ninjutsu to a similar degree. Are you suggesting that susanoo can tank what the juubi can't? Absurd!

I knew someone was going to pull this scan up, just waiting for anyone foolish enough to do it.

-That's a BM Rasen Shuriken, Kyuubi's chakra has already been known to enhance Naruto's Ninjutsu.
-It slicing through Juubi's tails is no big feat and doesn't prevent it from being tanked by Susanoo. Unless you think FRS is stronger than the Juubi's Bijuu dama, as its tails were able to tank its own Bijuu Dama. Slicing Damage=/=Explosive Damage.

Not to mention that was a combined attack by the alliance, but knowing you, you attribute this feat to Naruto alone? How sickening.

V2 already blocked something far stronger than FRS yet you think its going to break through a V3 Susanoo? Don't make me laugh.

Now, see what it's like to be on the other side when you insult others? It doesn't feel good does it? It infuriates you. Try considering this before you smart mouth other people again.

I never insulted you, I insulted your argument and you got butthurt apparently. If you are going to reply with more nonsense, then don't even bother replying at all and I can just debate with Prince Charles instead.