KCM Naruto speed overrated!!

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Dunno, ask Kishi. Fact is, Naruto dodged V2 As fist. A himself said that hes going to use his full speed, what is there to debate?

Bold. Bold is the only fact and feat that manga/kishi showed us and provided. Manga DID NOT PROVE that naruto is faster then A. Dodging something isnt being faster.

A clearly states that naruto just was 2nd ever to dodge his speed nothing more. A>naruto still
 

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Bold. Bold is the only fact and feat that manga/kishi showed us and provided. Manga DID NOT PROVE that naruto is faster then A. Dodging something isnt being faster.

A clearly states that naruto just was 2nd ever to dodge his speed nothing more. A>naruto still
Only, Naruto didnt use his Shunshun until As fist was like 2-3 centimeters from his face. In short, A used his Shunshin before Naruto used his, he had the advantage. Moreover, when As fist connected with the stone wall Naruto was like several meters behind him. If Naruto wasnt faster than A, something like this would be simply impossible.
 

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Only, Naruto didnt use his Shunshun until As fist was like 2-3 centimeters from his face. In short, A used his Shunshin before Naruto used his, he had the advantage. Moreover, when As fist connected with the stone wall Naruto was like several meters behind him. If Naruto wasnt faster than A, something like this would be simply impossible.
Or maybe naruto used variable speed at 90ยบ angle which made difficult for A to adjust to a change, given the speed he (A) was at, as well as linear and premade for specific distance shunshin.

In essence its like fighter jet dodging a missile. A fighter isnt faster, but with right angle and speed change in right moment a missile cannot follow.

Given how easy V1 dealt with naruto 2 min b4 i cannot find any other reasonable explanation for his failure except that A had change of heart (but i dont want to use that)
 

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Or maybe naruto used variable speed at 90ยบ angle which made difficult for A to adjust to a change, given the speed he (A) was at, as well as linear and premade for specific distance shunshin.

In essence its like fighter jet dodging a missile. A fighter isnt faster, but with right angle and speed change in right moment a missile cannot follow.

Given how easy V1 dealt with naruto 2 min b4 i cannot find any other reasonable explanation for his failure except that A had change of heart (but i dont want to use that)
Still, when As fist connected with the stone wall Naruto was like several meters behind him. Like I said, if Naruto wasnt faster than A, something like this would be simply impossible.

Besides, jet fighter isnt going to evade missle with just its agilty. Pilots are using flares to fool the missles.
 
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Still, when As fist connected with the stone wall Naruto was like several meters behind him. Like I said, if Naruto wasnt faster than A, something like this would be simply impossible.
U said it urself. Naruto pulled shunshin last second...
Besides, jet fighter isnt going to evade missle with just its agilty. Pilots are using flares to fool the missles.
Thats vs heat seeking not radar guided. Seems ur not into fighter jets...
 

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And thats why he proved to be faster than A.
Thats how he was able to dodge. 2 shunshin colliding at 90ยบ angle is pretty hard due to extreme speeds . U wasnt reading at all?

So stop with naruto faster speculation, its not proved. Its fanfiction.
 

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Thats how he was able to dodge. 2 shunshin colliding at 90ยบ angle is pretty hard due to extreme speeds . U wasnt reading at all?

So stop with naruto faster speculation, its not proved. Its fanfiction.
When As fist connected with the stone wall Naruto was already standing sevral meters behind him. In the same time, Naruto travelled through longer distance than A did. Like I said, if Naruto wasnt faster than A, something like that would be simply impossible. Thats not a fanfiction, thats basic logic.

Besides, A aimed well. His fist was like 2-3 centimeters from Narutos face, wasnt it?
 
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When As fist connected with the stone wall Naruto was already standing sevral meters behind him. In the same time, Naruto travelled through longer distance than A did. Like I said, if Naruto wasnt faster than A, something like that would be simply impossible. Thats not a fanfiction, thats basic logic.
And how do u know how long was A standing at that wall? Few extra meters is nothing for shunshin.
Besides, A aimed well. His fist was like 2-3 centimeters from Narutos face, wasnt it?
And as i said and u too, naruto pulled shunshin last moment. A was intercepting naruto at that specific speed, naruto reacted and put some more, A simply couldnt easily turn 90ยบ at such speed, especially with a wall in front of him.
 

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And how do u know how long was A standing at that wall?
Debris was flying around when As fist connected and Naruto was giving his speech, so...
A simply couldnt easily turn 90ยบ at such speed, especially with a wall in front of him.
If he was faster than Naruto, had better reflex than him, it wouldnt be hard to do it.
 
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Debris was flying around when As fist connected and Naruto was giving his speech, so...
Oh yeah, the speech was given...so...
Mute point. Variable speed and 90ยบ angle made it hard for A to react and follow naruto. Dodging isnt being faster.
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Oh yeah, the speech was given...so...
Nope. Naruto started to give his speech in the moment when As fist connected. Fact still remains - Naruto travelled through longer distance than A did in the same time.
 

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Nope. Naruto started to give his speech in the moment when As fist connected. Fact still remains - Naruto travelled through longer distance than A did in the same time.

WTF do u mean by that? Do u expect raikage to breach the mountain 10 meters deep? In fact A traveled more.
Pathetic reasoning!!!!
 

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In fact A traveled more.
Pathetic reasoning!!!!
No, he didnt. A travelled like 2 meters in the same time when Naruto travelled through 15+ meters. Debris was still flying around. Wall could stop him, but it still isnt making up for it.
 

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No, he didnt. A travelled like 2 meters in the same time when Naruto travelled through 15+ meters. Debris was still flying around. Wall could stop him, but it still isnt making up for it.
Ok in what world wall doesnt serve as valid excuse for one not stop moving?
15 meters? LoL stop fanboying
 

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Considering that debris was still flying around, which means that A had just hit that wall, no thats not excuse at all.
Considering naruto had a time to spell "i wont fail" there is...
-> That was at least 10 meters.
I dont see 15+ meters there. I see 3, ill give 5 with a stretch.
 
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