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Few more thoughts:
  1. Sasuke. There is no way he and "Taka" can take down 5 Kages. Someone made the point before that the entire team had trouble with the 8-tails... much less to deal with 5 S-Class ninja. Assuming that Sasuke is on equal footing with 1 Kage, who else in the team has the ability to take on the remaining 4????
  2. Another thought on Madara. He said that he plans to "sync Sasuke with the Gedo Mazo". Assuming that this is the ultimate beast madara is awaiting to unleash, we can conclude that Negato was supposed to be the vessel or the medium through which madara controls the ultimate beast. But he cannot entrust this to Sasuke because he cannont yet control him. Therefore, the medium (Sasuke) has free will and in a sense would have control over the tailed beasts.
I agree but i think :hypertobi: knows :sasuke: has free will so he is going to use :naruto: strength as his weapon lets not forget that :sasuke: and :naruto: are rivials and the reason :sasuke: left for orochimaru was :naruto: increasing strength he felt weak and wanted to get stronger.
 

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yea your right and gedo mazo i think is the jutsu that exracts tailed beast.
The Jutsu that akatsuki uses to extract tailed beast from jinchuurikki is.. FUUIN JUTSU.. GENRYUU KYUU FUUJIN (complete 9 illusionary dragon seal) chapter 255 pg 06... gedo mazo most likely refers to the statue that is summoned which is used to store the chakra of the tailed beasts (not exactly sure) but if u look at chapter 447 pg 07.. nagato summons gedo mazo..

Now with due repect to everyone's predictions... a lot of ppl r saying that the 'moons eye plan' might be that Madara wants Sasuke's eyes.. m not too sure abt that.. Why can't he use Itachi's eyes if he really wants another pair of MS eyes? I knw madara asked Sasuke if he wants to implant Itachi's eyes after he died (chp 403 pg 17).. plus the whole idea of implantin MS (Madara took frm his bro) eyes was to get an eternal MS.. it wud b pretty lame that u keep stickin eyes after eyes in u to gain even stronger sharingan than EMS.. I really don't want to buy this idea... Kishi is way better then that..

As everyone else has said a lot of things are happenin.. a lot of stories developin at the same time.. things r actually moving fast.. thats rare.. (unlike shippudden where they wasted a whole episode just to get saigetsu's sword.. so annoying)

I predict Madara has his own evil plans.. his 'moons eye plan' looks like something he was plannin on from the beginning... hes always saying 'things r going according to the plan'.. the gedo mazo thing will probably be his main weapon.. I think he either wants to defeat and destroy all five hidden village nations or rule them.. by killin the 5 kage's he will bring chaos everywhere.. then use this geda mazo weapon to show his supremacy over everyone... obviously for all this to work he needs to have strong ninja's by his side.. or to use them to do his dirty work.. but all this is just a speculation for now..
 
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The Jutsu that akatsuki uses to extract tailed beast from jinchuurikki is.. FUUIN JUTSU.. GENRYUU KYUU FUUJIN (complete 9 illusionary dragon seal) chapter 255 pg 06... gedo mazo most likely refers to the statue that is summoned which is used to store the chakra of the tailed beasts (not exactly sure) but if u look at chapter 447 pg 07.. nagato summons gedo mazo..

Now with due repect to everyone's predictions... a lot of ppl r saying that the 'moons eye plan' might be that Madara wants Sasuke's eyes.. m not too sure abt that.. Why can't he use Itachi's eyes if he really wants another pair of MS eyes? I knw madara asked Sasuke if he wants to implant Itachi's eyes after he died (chp 403 pg 17).. plus the whole idea of implantin MS (Madara took frm his bro) eyes was to get an eternal MS.. it wud b pretty lame that u keep stickin eyes after eyes in u to gain even stronger sharingan than EMS.. I really don't want to buy this idea... Kishi is way better then that..

As everyone else has said a lot of things are happenin.. a lot of stories developin at the same time.. things r actually moving fast.. thats rare.. (unlike shippudden where they wasted a whole episode just to get saigetsu's sword.. so annoying)

I predict Madara has his own evil plans.. his 'moons eye plan' looks like something he was plannin on from the beginning... hes always saying 'things r going according to the plan'.. the gedo mazo thing will probably be his main weapon.. I think he either wants to defeat and destroy all five hidden village nations or rule them.. by killin the 5 kage's he will bring chaos everywhere.. then use this geda mazo weapon to show his supremacy over everyone... obviously for all this to work he needs to have strong ninja's by his side.. or to use them to do his dirty work.. but all this is just a speculation for now..
I dont think tobi is so evil just wanna see what power of the true uchiha the last sharingan!
TOBI IS GOOD BOY!!
 

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Man u stole my thunder about the taking of Itachi's eyes. Why didnt Madara just take Itachi's eyes then and THEN go after Sasuke's eyes. I'm still kinda wondering if Itachi is really dead, but I know that this manga has been strategically building up since Naruto went to Myobokuzan to train with the toads. Anyone have a link to the latest data book?
 

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The Jutsu that akatsuki uses to extract tailed beast from jinchuurikki is.. FUUIN JUTSU.. GENRYUU KYUU FUUJIN (complete 9 illusionary dragon seal) chapter 255 pg 06... gedo mazo most likely refers to the statue that is summoned which is used to store the chakra of the tailed beasts (not exactly sure) but if u look at chapter 447 pg 07.. nagato summons gedo mazo..

Now with due repect to everyone's predictions... a lot of ppl r saying that the 'moons eye plan' might be that Madara wants Sasuke's eyes.. m not too sure abt that.. Why can't he use Itachi's eyes if he really wants another pair of MS eyes? I knw madara asked Sasuke if he wants to implant Itachi's eyes after he died (chp 403 pg 17).. plus the whole idea of implantin MS (Madara took frm his bro) eyes was to get and eternal MS.. it wud b pretty lame that u keep stickin eyes after eyes in u to gain even stronger sharingan than EMS.. I really don't want to buy this idea... Kishi is way better then that..

As everyone else has said a lot of things are happenin.. a lot of stories developin at the same time.. things r actually moving fast.. thats rare.. (unlike shippudden where they wasted a whole episode just to get saigetsu's sword.. so annoying)

I predict Madara has his own evil plans.. his 'moons eye plan' looks like something he was plannin on from the beginning... hes always saying 'things r going according to the plan'.. the gedo mazo thing will probably be his main weapon.. I think he either wants to defeat and destroy all five hidden village nations or rule them.. by killin the 5 kage's he will bring chaos everywhere.. then use this geda mazo weapon to show his supremacy over everyone... obviously for all this to work he needs to have strong ninja's by his side.. or to use them to do his dirty work.. but all this is just a speculation for now..
Thank you I forgot what that jutsu was called but if you think about it the uhciha clan only seem to gain strength from killing there best friend or taking someones eyes. So you can't just say that :hypertobi: want take :sasuke: eyes.
 

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I have to say there is no way Sasuke is going to be able to take out the Kages. My guess he will get some shots in but for the most part he will get his ass kicked badly. That way Madera can say I will give you the power you need to get your revenge. And that is when Madera thinks he has Sasuke completely but latter the power Madera gives to Sasuke will be the power used to take him down.

Last, everyone is hoping Killerbee will teach Naruto the secret to controlling a tail beast but that will not happen. The fox demon is sneaky and Naruto can never trust the fox. Killerbee trust his beast. They are like to college roommates that get a long. Naruto and the fox are like two prisoners chain together.
 

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If sasuke's gona defeat the 5 kages as izily as sasuke mentioned.. This manga can go straight to drain.. Please kishi, don't spoilt it.. or it will get out of balance and unreal..

btw, gaara rocks..
 

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I think Sasuke may have learned a new way to use Amaterasu. Also I don?t see how Sasuke could become more powerful than Pein. Sasuke can?t bring back the dead or destroy a whole village by himself.
 

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Thank you I forgot what that jutsu was called but if you think about it the uhciha clan only seem to gain strength from killing there best friend or taking someones eyes. So you can't just say that :hypertobi: want take :sasuke: eyes.
yea true.. also :hypertobi: was itachi's master... Itachi said it himself.. so thats a bond right there.. also tobi helped itachi kill entire uchiha clan.. that makes them close in some wat to each other..
 

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I have to say there is no way Sasuke is going to be able to take out the Kages. My guess he will get some shots in but for the most part he will get his ass kicked badly. That way Madera can say I will give you the power you need to get your revenge. And that is when Madera thinks he has Sasuke completely but latter the power Madera gives to Sasuke will be the power used to take him down.

Last, everyone is hoping Killerbee will teach Naruto the secret to controlling a tail beast but that will not happen. The fox demon is sneaky and Naruto can never trust the fox. Killerbee trust his beast. They are like to college roommates that get a long. Naruto and the fox are like two prisoners chain together.
true but :naruto: maybe become stronger than the fox so he want have to control him but the power so he can pick when to channel that strength. Really I just want to see :naruto: fight with the sagekyubi eyes.
 

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If sasuke's gona defeat the 5 kages as izily as sasuke mentioned.. This manga can go straight to drain.. Please kishi, don't spoilt it.. or it will get out of balance and unreal..

btw, gaara rocks..
Rem Madara might also be in the meeting disguised as Mizukage.. if madara really plans for Sasuke to kill all the Kages.. I am sure he will help Sasuke in the fight with the 5 Kages.. otherwise I also don't see stupid Sasuke takin on all 5 Kages n their subordinates at the same time.. no matter how strong he is or any new power he has... he was almost killed 2 times while fightin killerbee..
 

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yea true.. also :hypertobi: was itachi's master... Itachi said it himself.. so thats a bond right there.. also tobi helped itachi kill entire uchiha clan.. that makes them close in some wat to each other..
true thats why i think :hypertobi: must have lost alot of power against the 4th so maybe itachi was strong enough to stop :hypertobi: i remeber :hypertobi: saying to zetsu that now that itachi is gone he can go with his true plan.
 

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Rem Madara might also be in the meeting disguised as Mizukage.. if madara really plans for Sasuke to kill all the Kages.. I am sure he will help Sasuke in the fight with the 5 Kages.. otherwise I also don't see stupid Sasuke takin on all 5 Kages n their subordinates at the same time.. no matter how strong he is or any new power he has... he was almost killed 2 times while fightin killerbee..
yea true that's why i think he really just plan on taking on danzou.
 

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ya.. I like that idea.. also he cud have been injured before that when he fought the 1st hokage.. every1 had thought he had died in that fight... but wat I don't get is why has Madara been in the hiding since then?? Either he has lost a lot of his power or he is too ashamed to come out after that defeat or may be both..
I posted this on some other thread that may be Madara is tryin to save his chakra so thats y he uses only 1 eye.. thats y he has been able to live so long... he wud use both his eyes only against dangerous opponents or whn hes fightin seriously.. also caz he wants to hide his identity.. plus he cannot reveal his sharingan against sasuke anyways.. as tht wud trigger ameterasu on him (thnks to itachi)
 

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ya.. I like that idea.. also he cud have been injured before that when he fought the 1st hokage.. every1 had thought he had died in that fight... but wat I don't get is why has Madara been in the hiding since then?? Either he has lost a lot of his power or he is too ashamed to come out after that defeat or may be both..
I posted this on some other thread that may be Madara is tryin to save his chakra so thats y he uses only 1 eye.. thats y he has been able to live so long... he wud use both his eyes only against dangerous opponents or whn hes fightin seriously.. also caz he wants to hide his identity.. plus he cannot reveal his sharingan against sasuke anyways.. as tht wud trigger ameterasu on him (thnks to itachi)
you got i good point. I think he is only using one eye because he is saving chakra just like tsunde with the seal on her forhead, but yea I always wonder why :hypertobi: stayed hiding also si nce everyone thinks he is dead it would be a perfect time to destory them.
 

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I was thinking about the "Moon's Eye Plan" that Madara has. First of all, I was thinking that it would have something to do with the eyes obviously. Secondly, Moon... The only person that I heard talking about the moon was Pain who stated that the moon was created by the sage of six paths using Chibaku Tensei, which we all know is a jutsu that only a person with the rennigan can do. He also expressed his disappointment towards Nagato for using Rinne Tensei, which is also a jutsu that can only be performed by someone with the Rennigan. So I'm thinking that The "Moon's Eye Plan" had something to do with Madara using the Rennigan's power. How... I have no idea. Maybe he wanted to fuse the Sharingan with the Rennigan? Now that Nagato is gone maybe he wants to use Sasugay's eyes in a similar fasion but just decided to keep the name "Moon's Eye Plan." Ooorrrr...We can look at Itachi's Tsukuyomi. Tsukuyomi is the god of the Moon in Japanese Mythology, in Naruto it is a power that Itachi possessed that trapped the opponent in illusionary realm. Maybe the "Moon Eye Plan" has something to do with Madara using the Tsukuyomi in some way or another but it would be Difficult for him to do so without Sasugay since Itachi gave him all of the powers that he possessed with the sharingan prior to him dying. What do you guys think?
 

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well a good chapter indeed, some points:

1-as some people here are saying i also agree that madara is just using sasuke to do some jobs for him, in the end im almost certain that he will dispose of him.

2-As far as madara's power well, it's very weird cause if somehow he is trapped in somekind of space-time jutsu and all this is to revive himself, to bring himself back, why the hell all akatsuki members received orders from him? , if hes trapped he can't attack right, if he needs others to revive why obey to him?
With this why i guess that it is something else going on.

3-About The Moon's Eye Plan, well perhaps the name can be tricky and has nothing to do with eyes or it has. but if it has i personally think it will not be sasuke's.
I was reviewing some old chapters and i found this, could be any mean this be directly related to madara's plan ??



4-zetsu really said that naruto may be stronger than sasuke, and in a way i might agree with that cause naruto still has some limitations and weaknesses that are genjutsus and emotinal-fox control ( he almost led to his death and the fox freedom with his anger ), that's why finding killerbee will perhaps be a good thing to naruto! as far as sasuke concerns i don't know how the **** will sasuke evolve i mean it is a bit unfair that naruto needs to bust his ass training like hell to get stronger, and sasuke doing nothing just some fights here and there can evolve the same amount, i mean he got to train he has to caugth up to naruto, not just some eyes evolution.

5-to finish, it is obviously that madara knows taka will not be succeded but somehow i think that to control sasuke he has to make sasuke fail again so that sasuke won't be so full of himself and start obeying for real to madara, anyway we are all assuming that taka will be dealing with the 5 kages alone but we are forgetting that madara is one of the kages himself, the mizukage and perharps he plans to interfere as well.
 
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I haven't read all the previous posts yet, but "The Moon Eye Plan" may involve The Rinnegan. I think that Madara was planning on releasing something from inside the moon. Because if you remember during the Pein Arc I remember someone saying that in mythology the Sage-of-6-paths sealed something inside the moon. I think Madara is going to try to use his sharingan to release that creature form the moon and contorl it using his Sharingan and maybe use Gedo Mazo on it to try and draw out its power so that he can use it to strengthen his ems to a level never seen before in Naruto history. I've only posted a few times so tell me what you think about this.
 
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