10 Reasons why Kishi's manga turned from worse to shit

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I actually decided to stop reading Naruto since latest chapters. I actually don't even know myself why i continue. Maybe only reason is because i want to see how this shit manga ends. I can't deny the fact it's a manga that passionated me before, and i don't really like quiting mangas that passionated me in the past that brutally U_U

If you don't like naruto you should get a refund......oh wait you're getting this for free.....you get what you pay for.....so do us all a favor if you don't like buy something better and read that
 

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OP is a much better manga for me atm.

I agree to certain extents man.
Same here, to be honest. Kishi has a knack for making bad villains, and when the villains are finally good, he trolls them and takes them out way too early. The most recent example would be Madara, who I personally really liked, suddenly just not giving a rat's ass about the plan he has worked on for so long, doing nothing but sitting still while the K11 are taking out the Juubi.
 

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Timeline is also ****ed up. Madara is a joke, he sit down there and let th alliance defeat the juubi so that he can fight his boyfriend, what he spend his entire life plannin, the moon eye plan abandon so that he can fight hashi. And too much fanservice

I am sorry we must be reading a different manga but the one I read you should try it but the juubi isn't being defeated.....by the way the manga I read is called "Naruto Shippden.
 

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Same here, to be honest. Kishi has a knack for making bad villains, and when the villains are finally good, he trolls them and takes them out way too early. The most recent example would be Madara, who I personally really liked, suddenly just not giving a rat's ass about the plan he has worked on for so long, doing nothing but sitting still while the K11 are taking out the Juubi.

So true. Just like Nagato and Kisame. Pein could have did so much more than destroy Konoha, and Kisame had so much damn potential. Akatuski in general were trolled off screen. Kishi has a hard time killing off good characters thats his problem.
 

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Same here, to be honest. Kishi has a knack for making bad villains, and when the villains are finally good, he trolls them and takes them out way too early. The most recent example would be Madara, who I personally really liked, suddenly just not giving a rat's ass about the plan he has worked on for so long, doing nothing but sitting still while the K11 are taking out the Juubi.

They haven't even touched the juubi let alone take it out
 

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Timeline is also ****ed up. Madara is a joke, he sit down there and let th alliance defeat the juubi so that he can fight his boyfriend, what he spend his entire life plannin, the moon eye plan abandon so that he can fight hashi. And too much fanservice
Good point. I even forgot about the timeline. Another reason why i don't take it seriously anymore U_U
OP is a much better manga for me atm.

I agree to certain extents man.
I actually liked Naruto better before, but now OP totally makes Naruto look like shit seriously. At least Oda is accurate in what he does xD
Same here, to be honest. Kishi has a knack for making bad villains, and when the villains are finally good, he trolls them and takes them out way too early. The most recent example would be Madara, who I personally really liked, suddenly just not giving a rat's ass about the plan he has worked on for so long, doing nothing but sitting still while the K11 are taking out the Juubi.
My though exactly U_U
 

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And now the obvious question:

If you dislike it so much, why are you still reading it? hmm

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If you don't like it, stop reading it U_U
People like you are the worst, you refuse any type of criticism with something you like. If you can't see the glaring flaws in this story you're insane.

OP it's an SJ manga, what did you expect?
 

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Why do people come on this site, specified for Naruto talk, to bash (This may not be bashing, just an objective analysis) the manga everyone is reading? What is the point? That is from your point of view. Has Obito been TNJ'd yet? No, and with his fake laugh and testimonial to Kakashi, it looks like he won't be TNJ'd at all. Madara was never the main Antagonist, he only devised the plan; Obito set it in motion. Orochimaru was never supposed to be the main antagonist, only a way for Sasuke to gain power to fulfill his ultimate ambition (Killing Itachi). How were the Akatsuki members killed too fast? There was an entire arc dedicated to the leader of the Akatsuki, Itachi's fight got plenty of battle time, Kakuzu the same... etc.

And what would a hawk do in a situation like this? The snake is needed for the firepower to take the Juubi clones... It seems when people rant they rule out the logic in a situation and deem the situation terrible because it didn't go their way..

People are always going to have a different opinions whether it's manga or any type of media good or bad. People have the right to talk about a series in anyway they want even criticize because some fans want the series to improve more or they just do not like it lol. It's up to people on how to react on other opinions without taking it to the heart.
 
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I think for me at least its not the mangas / Kishis fault, it's rather my expectations that were growing from ep 1 to now. The manga is still as simple and straight forward as it was back in the days, but my expectations of the series were outgrowing it... otherwise scenes like Obitos unmasking wouldnt have shocked me at all - its just too simple/obvious/boring for me now.

Just my opinion...
 

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1- There is absolute no great villain in this manga beside Orochimaru(and himself seems to have turned good).
Obito is good. But both are probably gonna be redemmed so..

2- Killed every villain in the manga too fast(Akatsuki) to make alliance shinobi fights zombies or white weak shits Lol
Agree 100%.

3- We're at the end of the manga and the villains are shit. Madara is pathetic, Obito is a crybaby
I agree with the first. Don't agree with the latter.

4- People are fighting in a war that looks more like a pic-nic(with no antagonist really struggling that much) more than anything else
Agreed

5- War almost at his end, yet no relevant character died besides Neji, same Neji you barely saw during entire shippuden
Yes, more people should die. Hope Kakashi, Gai and others die.

6- Almost every villains always had to be tnj'd in the end Lol
Yes, it's almost sad.

7- Too much plot with jutsus coming out of nowhere without explanations
Thank-you. Izanami & Recent Powerup were asspulls.

8- It's the lectors who actually create theories to try to explain things Kishi doesn't even try to explain himself. I always tried to find reasons myself so far to excuse kishi, but enough is enough
Yeah that's true.

9- Everything seems improvised. That's why you see Sasuke turned from a Konoha hater(during more than 200chapters) to a Konoha-lover in one chapter. Reason why the symbolism around hawks turned to shit in one chapter without explanations
Agreed. Make as you go is Kishi's motto in a sense.

10- There is practically no intrigue in this manga anymore, rendering the manga boring. Even when there is, it's irrelevant for the manga
True.

Naruto's "awesome-ness" is diminishing.
 

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So true. Just like Nagato and Kisame. Pein could have did so much more than destroy Konoha, and Kisame had so much damn potential. Akatuski in general were trolled off screen. Kishi has a hard time killing off good characters thats his problem.
Indeed. Which either leads him to killing them way too quickly, and in a bad way (Kakuzu, Sasori, Hidan for example), or not killing anyone at all.
They haven't even touched the juubi let alone take it out
He has no way of sealing them, he's not gonna be able to take them out o his own, since they'll just regenerate after every attack. That should be obvious to anyone, and yet, Madara suddenly decides to be a total asshat and sit down. He even said "I'll wait until the real one is done", hinting that he doesn't expect the Juubi to win...
 

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1- There is absolute no great villain in this manga beside Orochimaru(and himself seems to have turned good).

- Yet If there was an absolute great villain, then that villain will have to be OP to be able to take on all the nin ... oh wait, we have that

2- Killed every villain in the manga too fast(Akatsuki) to make alliance shinobi fights zombies or white weak shits Lol

Most of the villains have had good battles - battles which everyone wanted.. If they didn't die - people would moan it's dragging on.. and villains have had to die before now otherwise - people would be moaning no one died

3- We're at the end of the manga and the villains are shit. Madara is pathetic, Obito is a crybaby

End... Sources? Links?

4- People are fighting in a war that looks more like a pic-nic(with no antagonist really struggling that much) more than anything else

.. People already moaning about OP ..

5- War almost at his end, yet no relevant character died besides Neji, same Neji you barely saw during entire shippuden

Well people moan when we have eps and manga with people who arent in the top 10 people.. moan when they die etc etc


6- Almost every villains always had to be tnj'd in the end Lol

What you expect when its a hand full of people vs the ninja world - sticks and stones still?

7- Too much plot with jutsus coming out of nowhere without explanations

Then people would be moaning of boring eps again

8- It's the lectors who actually create theories to try to explain things Kishi doesn't even try to explain himself. I always tried to find reasons myself so far to excuse kishi, but enough is enough

yes enough is enough

9- Everything seems improvised. That's why you see Sasuke turned from a Konoha hater(during more than 200chapters) to a Konoha-lover in one chapter. Reason why the symbolism around hawks turned to shit in one chapter without explanations

.. If we watched/read everything everyone does we'll never see the end of it .. Like Sakura's forehead power.

10- There is practically no intrigue in this manga anymore, rendering the manga boring. Even when there is, it's irrelevant for the manga

Stop reading it then and go else where
 

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I actually decided to stop reading Naruto since latest chapters. I actually don't even know myself why i continue. Maybe only reason is because i want to see how this shit manga ends. I can't deny the fact it's a manga that passionated me before, and i don't really like quiting mangas that passionated me in the past that brutally U_U

hmm Hmm. . . I kinda highly doubt that you will actually stop with Naruto, after years of following it (I guess), but still not too sure.

I don't know if I'm the only one that feels like this, cuz every Fan of Naruto I have seen starts disliking it if things don't go as wished or every time is like: "Why did that happened, I hate that?", "Why did that character died, I hate that?" and simmilar stuff.

I, myself, don't expect anything from Kishimoto. I read every chapter and except it as it is. . . except the Timeline. . . in some situations is reallty f****d up.


@Puppet Master @Iksokrips the forum is for opinions and Naruto discussions. I agree, the only reason i bother to read the new chapter every week is because of the time ive already put into it

Of course it is, I never denied that. :yeah:

And my options is: I really like Naruto and don't tend to throw insult at it. ;)

Except, as I said before, the Timeline. . . hmm


People like you are the worst, you refuse any type of criticism with something you like. If you can't see the glaring flaws in this story you're insane.

OP it's an SJ manga, what did you expect?

So. . . you are same as him. . . keep reading something you dislike. . . ? hmm
 

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Ah...most of this is your opinion along with the title.>_O I personally think it's good...vicissitudes are unavoidable as no ones perfect. It isn't that bad to you is it?:shy:
 

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hmm Hmm. . . I kinda highly doubt that you will actually stop with Naruto, after years of following it (I guess), but still not too sure.

I don't know if I'm the only one that feels like this, cuz every Fan of Naruto I have seen starts disliking it if things don't go as wished or every time is like: "Why did that happened, I hate that?", "Why did that character died, I hate that?" and simmilar stuff.

I, myself, don't expect anything from Kishimoto. I read every chapter and except it as it is. . . except the Timeline. . . in some situations is reallty f****d up.




Of course it is, I never denied that. :yeah:

And my options is: I really like Naruto and don't tend to throw insult at it. ;)

Except, as I said before, the Timeline. . . hmm




So. . . you are same as him. . . keep reading something you dislike. . . ? hmm
Ha, never wouldve guessed based on your initial reply
 

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You know what time it is? I think it's time for some awesome person to get up one of those "How Would You Change or Rewrite Naruto" threads! I always enjoy those and everyone seems to be in an odd and unsatisfied mood, as of recently. So! I think it would do everyone some good if we wrote out our own versions of what we would want, and all!

That, and I enjoy reading these things. They tend to be interesting when long!
 

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*siiiiiiiiigh* I agree. Kishi has really disappointed me. After the Juubi's resurrection is when it really started to do it for me. I thought Orochimaru would save this manga....

And now the obvious question:

If you dislike it so much, why are you still reading it? hmm

Personally speaking, I've invested so much time in it that I can't simply stop reading it. U_U
 

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1- There is absolute no great villain in this manga beside Orochimaru(and himself seems to have turned good).

- Yet If there was an absolute great villain, then that villain will have to be OP to be able to take on all the nin ... oh wait, we have that

2- Killed every villain in the manga too fast(Akatsuki) to make alliance shinobi fights zombies or white weak shits Lol

Most of the villains have had good battles - battles which everyone wanted.. If they didn't die - people would moan it's dragging on.. and villains have had to die before now otherwise - people would be moaning no one died

3- We're at the end of the manga and the villains are shit. Madara is pathetic, Obito is a crybaby

End... Sources? Links?

4- People are fighting in a war that looks more like a pic-nic(with no antagonist really struggling that much) more than anything else

.. People already moaning about OP ..

5- War almost at his end, yet no relevant character died besides Neji, same Neji you barely saw during entire shippuden

Well people moan when we have eps and manga with people who arent in the top 10 people.. moan when they die etc etc


6- Almost every villains always had to be tnj'd in the end Lol

What you expect when its a hand full of people vs the ninja world - sticks and stones still?

7- Too much plot with jutsus coming out of nowhere without explanations

Then people would be moaning of boring eps again

8- It's the lectors who actually create theories to try to explain things Kishi doesn't even try to explain himself. I always tried to find reasons myself so far to excuse kishi, but enough is enough

yes enough is enough

9- Everything seems improvised. That's why you see Sasuke turned from a Konoha hater(during more than 200chapters) to a Konoha-lover in one chapter. Reason why the symbolism around hawks turned to shit in one chapter without explanations

.. If we watched/read everything everyone does we'll never see the end of it .. Like Sakura's forehead power.

10- There is practically no intrigue in this manga anymore, rendering the manga boring. Even when there is, it's irrelevant for the manga

Stop reading it then and go else where

The easy way out...just negate everything and not accept any criticism when it doesn't follow your point of view...peace out
 

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Ha, never wouldve guessed based on your initial reply

Of coure you wouldn't. . . I'm a mysterious man. :cool:

Personally speaking, I've invested so much time in it that I can't simply stop reading it. U_U

Well, I guess after years of following it's kinda not easy an task. . . it has become part of your every day life. . . if not, it has of mine.
 
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