10 Reasons why Kishi's manga turned from worse to shit

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1- There is absolute no great villain in this manga beside Orochimaru(and himself seems to have turned good).

2- Killed every villain in the manga too fast(Akatsuki) to make alliance shinobi fights zombies or white weak shits Lol

3- We're at the end of the manga and the villains are shit. Madara is pathetic, Obito is a crybaby

4- People are fighting in a war that looks more like a pic-nic(with no antagonist really struggling that much) more than anything else

5- War almost at his end, yet no relevant character died besides Neji, same Neji you barely saw during entire shippuden

6- Almost every villains always had to be tnj'd in the end Lol

7- Too much plot with jutsus coming out of nowhere without explanations

8- It's the lectors who actually create theories to try to explain things Kishi doesn't even try to explain himself. I always tried to find reasons myself so far to excuse kishi, but enough is enough

9- Everything seems improvised. That's why you see Sasuke turned from a Konoha hater(during more than 200chapters) to a Konoha-lover in one chapter. Reason why the symbolism around hawks turned to shit in one chapter without explanations

10- There is practically no intrigue in this manga anymore, rendering the manga boring. Even when there is, it's irrelevant for the manga
 

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And now the obvious question:

If you dislike it so much, why are you still reading it? hmm
 

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I agree to an extent but I wouldn't call the manga shit. I still enjoy reading and waiting for the next chapter but yes Kishi in a way did ruin his whole story.

@#9. A hawk couldn't possibly be summoned in that situation, however the meaning behind Team Taka was destroyed in less than a chapter that I agree with.
 

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Well then Jiraiyas dream is coming true! True peace! XD
 

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Agreed with almost every single one of your points. Kishi lost his touch. U_U It's no wonder OP surpassed Naruto recently.
 

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The real issue is that after chapter 400 Kishimoto forced this new Uchiha plot down our throats and it wasn't compelling to begin with.

The Uchiha clan is not interesting or intimidating enough to drive a manga. They make shit villains because they have very shitty characterizations. Kishimoto even invented this child of prophecy thing so his main character would have some relevancy in this BS story.

Should have just been the Akatsuki vs the jinchuuriki for the majority of this manga, and Sausage's subplot being just a subplot. The big villain could have been the Uzumakis and it would have functioned just fine. Kishi really didn't plan this through :(

edit: Just want to add I still very much enjoy this manga. Somehow I found quite a few new things i enjoy like the SO6P.
 
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And now the obvious question:

If you dislike it so much, why are you still reading it? hmm
I actually decided to stop reading Naruto since latest chapters. I actually don't even know myself why i continue. Maybe only reason is because i want to see how this shit manga ends. I can't deny the fact it's a manga that passionated me before, and i don't really like quiting mangas that passionated me in the past that brutally U_U
 

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If you dislike it so much and think it's shit, drop the series.
 

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He ruined it the moment he fanboyed over the Uchiha's. I mean seriously Kishi is the biggest Sasuke fanboy out there he even surpasses Macho.
 

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Dang if you hate it so much then why bother keep reading it?
 

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Agreed with almost every single one of your points. Kishi lost his touch. U_U It's no wonder OP surpassed Naruto recently.

OP is a much better manga for me atm.

I agree to certain extents man.
 

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@Puppet Master @Iksokrips the forum is for opinions and Naruto discussions. I agree, the only reason i bother to read the new chapter every week is because of the time ive already put into it
 

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I agree, with all your points plus there are more reasons that derail the manga so much, such as the existing themes the were present in part 1 and the beginning of part 2. It just further illustrate the point that Kishi set up the manga to end after the pain arc.
 

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Eehh, Kishi has dropped the ball as the series progressed. I'd say at the start of the war, he really began to just. . Lose interest and rush things along. This was could have been a great ending-arc for Naruto. But. . Kishi probably just isn't a fan of the fantasy-genre as much as he use to.

He isn't a bad author, look at his One-Shot. Mario, was it? It was rather well done and I enjoyed it. I think he just doesn't care for this specific genre anymore, and is trying to move on. Hopefully, for him atleast, to do a similar enough manga to Mario.

But, look at the bright side. For those who enjoy reading and writing fanfictions, we now have many, many good idea's from Kishi that were flawed. And we can now see/use them "properly" or improve upon what he lacked in.
 

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Timeline is also ****ed up. Madara is a joke, he sit down there and let th alliance defeat the juubi so that he can fight his boyfriend, what he spend his entire life plannin, the moon eye plan abandon so that he can fight hashi. And too much fanservice
 

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Why do people come on this site, specified for Naruto talk, to bash (This may not be bashing, just an objective analysis) the manga everyone is reading? What is the point? That is from your point of view. Has Obito been TNJ'd yet? No, and with his fake laugh and testimonial to Kakashi, it looks like he won't be TNJ'd at all. Madara was never the main Antagonist, he only devised the plan; Obito set it in motion. Orochimaru was never supposed to be the main antagonist, only a way for Sasuke to gain power to fulfill his ultimate ambition (Killing Itachi). How were the Akatsuki members killed too fast? There was an entire arc dedicated to the leader of the Akatsuki, Itachi's fight got plenty of battle time, Kakuzu the same... etc.

And what would a hawk do in a situation like this? The snake is needed for the firepower to take the Juubi clones... It seems when people rant they rule out the logic in a situation and deem the situation terrible because it didn't go their way..
 
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