NaruHina: prove it was, is and will always be canon since 'that chapter'...

[DJKS]

Sonner or later it's gonna get her killed like when she went against pain.

She knew she was gonna die. At this point, Kishi has had way too many chances to kill her off, and he hasn't, killing another Hyuga from the K11 seems highly unlikely.....

 

[Mr Hiru]

His nindo isn't about getting what you want, it's about trying to get what you want.

Exactly. That's why as Naruto maybe won't get what he wants even if he try the hardest, so won't these people who have the same nindou.

 

[DJKS]

Exactly. That's why as Naruto maybe won't get what he wants even if he try the hardest, so won't these people who have the same nindou.

Right, so you're saying that because Naruto's nindo doesn't confirm his success in everything, it means that Hinata will also not be successful in everything?

When have I said otherwise?

 

[Mr Hiru]

Right, so you're saying that because Naruto's nindo doesn't confirm his success in everything, it means that Hinata will also not be successful in everything?

When have I said otherwise?

Technically, I'm in full agreedment with you. I should have mentioned that even Jirayia thought he failed until the very end of his life when he realized he had a legacy named Uzumaki Naruto.

 

[Shinta of Amegakure]

I have liked Naruhina since the beginning of the series. I plan on staying loyal through every moment of the ending of the series. I agree with every point you said.

 

[iNotorious]

I have liked Naruhina since the beginning of the series. I plan on staying loyal through every moment of the ending of the series. I agree with every point you said.

I won't have a Vrsus in this thread with you, but it's very possible to happen, yet i don't care about pairings too much. WAR WAR WAR WAR WE ARE IN WAR WAR WAR FORGET ABOUT LOVE LOVE LOVE WAR WAR WAR IS BETTER!

 

[DJKS]

Technically, I'm in full agreedment with you. I should have mentioned that even Jirayia thought he failed until the very end of his life when he realized he had a legacy named Uzumaki Naruto.

The thing is though that because of the general idea that the next generation will always surpass the previous one, it is believed by many that Naruto will succeed in what Jiraya failed in every way, shape, and form. This goes in accordance to his nindo of never giving up, which pretty much seals the deal of Naruto accomplishing everything for many.

Although I generally disagree with this because of the very reason that Naruto has failed in accomplishing many tasks (not letting Neji die for example), it can still generally end up being true because of the sole purpose of Kishi pushing that message and theme that is Naruto.

So to put this in terms of NaruHina vs NaruSaku; I don't know, it could go either way.

 

[boshans]

He was almost f*cking Hinata's hand tho...


Face it, Naruto is not a c*nt and he knew Hinata loves him, still he said such stuff back and he was the one that took her hand so long = love signal in Japanese culture. End.

Yes, it was no big deal but it stands on the last f*cking volume!!!!! I have said enough facts already about that scene. F*ck, with all respect, but now I am really out, you guys are freaking annoying. Not one single, proper argument. And not one single, proper counter on my arguments.


@the other one: Kishi needs to listen to his editors, and those are always concerned about Japanese culture! Seriously, read some info.



Greetings, it was fun for a while, but now it's like talking to a wall.

1. Naruto took Hinata's hand.
2. Naruto kept holding Hinata's hand.
3. Naruto: 'You were always by my side'...
4. ....

How do you people read a manga? With eyes closed?

Naruto: (Thinking)"That's right...it's not just pa and ma, either...yeah...all those others to"
Naruto: Hinata...thanks!
Naruto: (Thinking)"My life's connected to many, many others!"
Naruto: It's all thanks to you standing by my side..."(Thinking)"And Neji...thank you too..."
Hinata: (Thinking)"Naruto's hand is so big, and strong...and most of all...so comforting!"

I'm sorry but the official translation is not as romantic as you make it out to be. He was basically just thinking that since everyone was standing by his side now, he can do/win this or whatever, and since Hinata was there he decided to tell her what he was thinking. And he didn't say you were always by my side anyway. Also he didn't take her hand and kept holding...and holding, like you think. He took her hand off of his face, lowered it, and then said its all thanks to youblah blah. So it was like one second. NOT him holding and holding. YOU need to read the manga. I have been giving "proper" arguments, but you are just an idiot. And this whole japanese culture thing is bullshit first of all. Plus, as I said, he took her hand off of his face, said that line, gave her chakra, then the chapter ended, and in the very first page that shows them again in the next chapter, he lets go. So he had her hand for like 3 ****ing seconds. And yes he knows Hinata loves him, and he obviously DOES NOT LOVE HER BACK. Everything I said in my previous posts about Shonen mangas totally disproves Hinata/Naruto. This is a manga about Naruto, not Hinata. FROM CHAPTER 1 NARUTO HAS LIKED SAKURA, NOT HINATA. He is going to get the girl HE wants, not the girl that wants HIM.

 

[iNotorious]

The thing is though that because of the general idea that the next generation will always surpass the previous one, it is believed by many that Naruto will succeed in what Jiraya failed in every way, shape, and form. This goes in accordance to his nindo of never giving up, which pretty much seals the deal of Naruto accomplishing everything for many.

Although I generally disagree with this because of the very reason that Naruto has failed in accomplishing many tasks (not letting Neji die for example), it can still generally end up being true because of the sole purpose of Kishi pushing that message and theme that is Naruto.

So to put this in terms of NaruHina vs NaruSaku; I don't know, it could go either way.

Yeah the next generation will surpass the previous one, however few characters that i like i don't see it happening.
Naruto surpassed J-man and his father LONG TIME AGO, Sasuke surpassed Orochimaru too but sakura i don't know man i really don't.

And yeah i agree with that too, he has failed few taks, like not letting his friends die, however naruto is a human, nobody is perfect, like itachi, itachi fanboys , i won't even going to details about him.

So yeah it's does show us that naruto is human too, he failed in few things too but that doesn't mean he failed.

 

[DJKS]

Yeah the next generation will surpass the previous one, however few characters that i like i don't see it happening.
Naruto surpassed J-man and his father LONG TIME AGO, Sasuke surpassed Orochimaru too but sakura i don't know man i really don't.

And yeah i agree with that too, he has failed few taks, like not letting his friends die, however naruto is a human, nobody is perfect, like itachi, itachi fanboys , i won't even going to details about him.

So yeah it's does show us that naruto is human too, he failed in few things too but that doesn't mean he failed.

Well that's my point, despite him being the main character and having that nindo of never giving up, it's been shown that he doesn't succeed in everything, despite wanting to.

 

[iNotorious]

Well that's my point, despite him being the main character and having that nindo of never giving up, it's been shown that he doesn't succeed in everything, despite wanting to.

You sir have a point right there, I don't want naruto to become hokage for few reasons.

 

[Mr Hiru]

Sadly for Hina-ruto fans, there are far more signs about NaruSaku in the manga. Kishimoto is aiming, but his dizzy logic makes it feel like he's playing. Well, but it's Kishi... who knows, maybe in the end NaruSaku fans will get a deception xDDD

 

[Mistraal]

I don't care about NaruHina but why are all the fans getting their panties in a knot all of a sudden? All these Hinata threads are really random.

 

[Raekwon26]

Sadly for Hina-ruto fans, there are far more signs about NaruSaku in the manga. Kishimoto is aiming, but his dizzy logic makes it feel like he's playing. Well, but it's Kishi... who knows, maybe in the end NaruSaku fans will get a deception xDDD

I don't agree with that at all.

Both sets of fans cling to any little thing they think equals romantic development.

 

[Mr Hiru]

I don't agree with that all.

Both sets of fans cling to any little thing they think equals romantic development.

But these are the fans.

I'm talking about manga signs. I don't have any inclination (NaruSasu maybe).

 

[Raekwon26]

But these are the fans.

I'm talking about manga signs. I don't have any inclination (NaruSasu maybe).

No.
YOU have things YOU believe will lead to it. It's not a sign because nothing is confirmed and there are things you HOPE will happen that will prove you right. At the moment you're wrong, just like the other set of fans.

For everything you claim is 'fact' the other side can bring up a point they think is 'fact'. Until you have 100% proof, you're all in the same boat: Guessing and Speculating.

 

[DJKS]

No.
YOU have things YOU believe will lead to it. It's not a sign because nothing is confirmed and there are things you HOPE will happen that will prove you right. At the moment you're wrong, just like the other set of fans.

For everything you claim is 'fact' the other side can bring up a point they think is 'fact'. Until you have 100% proof, you're all in the same boat: Guessing and Speculating.

This.

If the whole pairing debate was so easy to foretell and figure out, none of us would be arguing here and trying to justify your favorite shipping.

 

[Mr Hiru]

No.
YOU have things YOU believe will lead to it. It's not a sign because nothing is confirmed and there are things you HOPE will happen that will prove you right. At the moment you're wrong, just like the other set of fans.

For everything you claim is 'fact' the other side can bring up a point they think is 'fact'. Until you have 100% proof, you're all in the same boat: Guessing and Speculating.

You talk like me, but you don't understand my language yet. For me, a sign is not a proof. And I agree, that's why I said it was a sign.

In order to see a proof, I need to confirm that some facts are consistent with the pattern of personalities in the character that is executing some action. Of course the signs are one-sided until now.

In effect, I agree with what you're saying.

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And, what I said with my statements weren't wrong at all... I said NaruSaku, I didn't say SakuNaru. I know things can't be proven otherwise, that's why I don't like the NaruHina term... I like to say Hina-ruto.

 

[Trea]

Sakura's growth is related to Naruto and Sasuke. It's the reason why she trained so hard in between the original and Shippuden. After the fight with Gaara and Sasuke's departure she became more determined to become better able to take care of herself instead of being saved. She wants to prove to them she is worth acknowledging as a kunoichi and not just a healer.

Most of the Konoha 11 have been each others rivals at one time or another and their reason for growth, with the exception of Shikamaru, who doesn't really seem to care about such things and Neji and Sasuke who were considered to be so good at everything. Aside from Sasuke Naruto also wanted to do better than Kiba at some points. Lee considered most of them his rival and trained even harder to prove he could be a good shinobi with just taijutsu. Shino would like to be acknowledged more often. They all feed off of each others ambitions and growth.

Yes Hinata loves Naruto and has taken up his ninja way, she wants to be acknowledged by him. She could not have had so much growth unless she started to believe in herself too. If Naruto was her only reason for growth I don't think she would have been up on the front lines encouraging everyone and acting fast when people were dismayed that Naruto's chakra cloak ran out. The old Hinata would have turned red and fainted after talking to everyone like that especially if Naruto was in the vicinity.

Yes I am a Naruto/Hinata fan and I believe Naruto knows that Sakura will never love him like she loves Sasuke. I don't think he wants to be anyone's second choice. Does that mean he will turn to Hinata? Only Kishi knows. He has a huge amount of respect and admiration for her now that he did not have for her before. Sometimes that's enough to start something more than friendship. The Kage meeting, The Invasion of Pain Arc, Naruto's training at the island and the war have seemingly happened in a few weeks time. Naruto has barely had time to catch his breath much less examine his feelings. After the war will be time enough for that.

 

[Joshutsu]

If you are confident then take your god-damn pairing and go celebrate together by yourselves. You guys want to be this oh so secure about your pairings shut the phuq up then. Announcing it everyday won't make it anymore cannon. Nothing more, nothing less. Get over it.