[Discussion] A question for the NaruSaku fans

[Mistraal]

The question I'm trying to ask is do you think Kishi has prolonged it too much and do you believe Sakura deserves to be with Naruto, the hero, the future savior of the world, etc. etc.

I for one believe the perfect opportunity would have been this current chapter during his attempt to redeem Sakura.
Though whenever she reflects back to Sasuke, I cant help to realize how much she hasn't changed and have as of lately begun to dislike Sakura a bit. Naruto-solo is where I'm at atm.

What are your current thoughts of the pairing and it's direction?

I think trying to determine which female character "deserves" the protagonist the most is a flawed and misogynistic attitude that is, unfortunately, employed by a vast amount of NaruHina shippers and even some of the NaruSaku shippers.

I don't think Sakura needs to be "redeemed" to "deserve" anyone. This concept is so insulting and ass-backwards it's ridiculous. I think saying Hinata "deserves" the protagonist the most is insulting to her character and treats her like an object.

Naruto loves Sakura. Sakura needs to figure out how she feels and the manga slowly, but surely, seems to be heading in that direction towards her resolution with this subject. Sasuke is a question mark and seems to be asexual, frankly. Hinata loves Naruto but also has to be acutely aware of Naruto's feelings for Sakura, if for no other reason than her eyes. In fact, we've never seen any inner dialogue from Hinata addressing this even when Sakura hugged Naruto after the Pain fight as she looked on.

Kishi owes it to Hinata as a character to have her address her feelings just like Sakura seems to be getting time to address hers. I think if maybe our girls got more panel time and dialogue the fandoms would treat them less like objects to be paired with something and more like people.

 

[luzhikari]

Kishi owes it to Hinata as a character to have her address her feelings just like Sakura seems to be getting time to address hers. I think if maybe our girls got more panel time and dialogue the fandoms would treat them less like objects to be paired with something and more like people.

I would love if Kishi give them more panel to both, but not only for romantic purpose but to make them more bad ass and such, I honestly want more girl power. Sorry if it's out of topic but I needed to say it.

 

[TheGr8Uchiha]

"In the original context, Kushina IS referring to finding someone like her personality wise. I had a friend, who is Japanese, translate and tell me what he thought. He is not into the Naruto manga and even asked me afterwards where the page was from. So this is not a bias statement, it is fact."

You didn't read the post, and you failed to read the question I asked......You yourself can answer it regardless of your pairing preference...but you chose to skip it it seems <_<

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I read that page but it doesn't really mean anything to me.

 

[SanguineJackal]

...Also, I fail to understand why Kishi would keep writing Hinata in in the way that he has this late in the game, unless it meant something. She is just part of the Konoha 9, not a main character, so if he wanted to have someone do the feelings thing and love/suppot thing, it could have easily been Sakura. If the Hinata thing wasn't meant to be something of importance, he could have easily chosen to simply give her as much a place as the other Konoha 9, and left her affections for Naruto as a childhood crush of part one and nothing more.

Just isolating this here, I believe that in his talks in the radio Kishi said that he was extremely unhappy with how the series, and especially his favorite character (Sasuke's) development, because he has been listening to everyone else- be it publishers, editors, or fans- rather than writing the manga he wants to write.

I have a suspicion that this includes the importance of Hinata, that her subplot could have easily been resolved sans romance (or simply by moving on from Naruto and using herself as motivation to push forward, rather than him). Now he is trying to bring focus back to Sakura, back to his original intended heroine, but it may be too little, too late. Hinata now has a presence as large as Tsunade's at least in terms of plot importance. But Kishi bringing the manga back in his direction may be why she has so jarringly been shunted into the background. Unfortunately, the change was so sudden... it just feels awkward at best.

 

[Jack Spicer]

Well, I'll be honest, I'm a big Naruhina and Sasusaku supporter so I don't quite support this pairing, but I respect your opinion and We'll just have to wait and see what Kishi does.

Replace NaruHina/SasuSaku with NaruSasu and this is my thought on the matter.

 

[MonCheRena]

You're all wrong! It's going to be NaruSasu vs NaruRamen.

 

[the Hashashin]

I really hate the idea of NaruHina, but really, it seems NaruSaku just won't happen. o_o

Why do you hate it? She's the only one who really loves him!

 

[Byron123]

Excuse me but you completely distort the facts. Sasuke came in the good side in him own accord so it's not like he putting his foot in Konoha=Naruto saved him. And also, you keep trying to force Naruto and Sakura to be together but what exactly those 2 panels mean for you, and for every narusaku fan?

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In this one, when Sakura thinks about who she loves, Sasuke comes to her mind and in this one?

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You find it completely normal that Sakura completely ignored Naruto and she only talked about Sasuke??
Sakura clearly shows love interest towards Sasuke.
I'm a big naruhina fan and I do believe that Hinata should be together with Naruto. There, there really is a development of respect between each other. In NaruSaku situation the moment Sasuke came to the battlefield we have Sasuke-kun!!!

 

[Olorin]

ok lets imagine two ral world scenarios:
Boy A: loved girl A since he was little, would do anything for her, is suffering just so he can fulfil her promise, he wants to tell her but he feels like he can't
Girl A: at first she looked down at boy A but than they started spending a lot of time together, she loved this other guy which she hasn't seen for so long, she cares a lot for boy A, they are very good friends, she knows he would do anything for her and always be there

Girl B: loves boy B but she hardly ever spoke to him, she was always shy, yes they had a few moments and she would do anything for him but still ...
Boy B: there were a few fleeting moments with this girl who hardly ever talked to him, he knew her for a long time but always though of her as one of his school mates, and one of the ones he talk to the least

which do you think would fit together better? ppl say Hinata is a better match? no she isn't, there were a few moments yes but otherwise they barely ever spoke. Thats not how a serious relationship starts ... THATS A FACT. So stop saying Hinata fits better because she doesn't.

And also Naruto has been trying to fulfil his promise and suffered so much, the reason I support NaruSaku is because I think Naruto deserves Sakura

ppl say Hinata deserves Naruto, but guess what Hinata isnt a main character, you gotta see it from Narutos point of view

 

[The Madara Uchiha]

My reflection on the matter is it could go both ways, I don't really care who he choses but Hinata has admitted to him that she deeply cares for him.
He is shown holding her hand during the fight with the Juubi but also is shown telling his father he loves Sakura, I don't think Naruto will neglect Hinata but I also know he wont refuse to Sakura.

:/

 

[Rockavelli]

I don't see how anyone deserves anybody. Naruto has been consistent with who he likes and he is aware who both girls like yet despite all that the one girl has done and said, he reiterates who he still likes because his feelings hasn't changed.
Kishimoto has prolonged the entire story but as far as pairing is concern, I only see one possible outcome and that's NaruSaku.

 

[SanguineJackal]

Excuse me but you completely distort the facts. Sasuke came in the good side in him own accord so it's not like he putting his foot in Konoha=Naruto saved him. And also, you keep trying to force Naruto and Sakura to be together but what exactly those 2 panels mean for you, and for every narusaku fan?

To me, since this is after Hinata's confession, Sakura's kind of feeling gloomy. When Hinata made her confession to Naruto, Sakura seemed pretty down about that. Most likely, in her mind, Naruto is spoken for... and until he says otherwise, off-limits to her. That leaves her only with Sasuke until she has a resolution with him.

In this one, when Sakura thinks about who she loves, Sasuke comes to her mind and in this one?

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You find it completely normal that Sakura completely ignored Naruto and she only talked about Sasuke??
Sakura clearly shows love interest towards Sasuke.
I'm a big naruhina fan and I do believe that Hinata should be together with Naruto. There, there really is a development of respect between each other. In NaruSaku situation the moment Sasuke came to the battlefield we have Sasuke-kun!!!

No, Sakura didn't ignore Naruto. I think it's more that she was surprised to see Sasuke trying to save her, rather than just Naruto. To her, it's a step towards Sasuke being back to his old self. "Sasuke-kun", for her, is as habitual as "Sakura-chan" is to Naruto.

 

[BakaaNaruto]

ok lets imagine two ral world scenarios:
Boy A: loved girl A since he was little, would do anything for her, is suffering just so he can fulfil her promise, he wants to tell her but he feels like he can't
Girl A: at first she looked down at boy A but than they started spending a lot of time together, she loved this other guy which she hasn't seen for so long, she cares a lot for boy A, they are very good friends, she knows he would do anything for her and always be there

Girl B: loves boy B but she hardly ever spoke to him, she was always shy, yes they had a few moments and she would do anything for him but still ...
Boy B: there were a few fleeting moments with this girl who hardly ever talked to him, he knew her for a long time but always though of her as one of his school mates, and one of the ones he talk to the least

which do you think would fit together better? ppl say Hinata is a better match? no she isn't, there were a few moments yes but otherwise they barely ever spoke. Thats not how a serious relationship starts ... THATS A FACT. So stop saying Hinata fits better because she doesn't.

And also Naruto has been trying to fulfil his promise and suffered so much, the reason I support NaruSaku is because I think Naruto deserves Sakura

ppl say Hinata deserves Naruto, but guess what Hinata isnt a main character, you gotta see it from Narutos point of view

You guys are turning this into a Naruhina/NaruSaku fan war. Continue the convo with the premise that Sakura and Naruto will be paired by the end of the manga.

Your comment does make sense. In addition, as Naruto has stated, he doesn't deserve to be Hokage or confess to Sakura if he cant save his friend or keep his promises. It's about EARNING his rights. Now lets go back to the question, do you think with all that Naruto has gone through that Sakura deserves to be with Naruto. What do you see for the future of the pairing and do you think Kishi has done a good job by prolonging her final confession for this long in the manga?

 

[BakaaNaruto]

To me, since this is after Hinata's confession, Sakura's kind of feeling gloomy. When Hinata made her confession to Naruto, Sakura seemed pretty down about that. Most likely, in her mind, Naruto is spoken for... and until he says otherwise, off-limits to her. That leaves her only with Sasuke until she has a resolution with him.



No, Sakura didn't ignore Naruto. I think it's more that she was surprised to see Sasuke trying to save her, rather than just Naruto. To her, it's a step towards Sasuke being back to his old self. "Sasuke-kun", for her, is as habitual as "Sakura-chan" is to Naruto.

Your last statements were right on, I wish more of the base would open their eyes and come to the same conclusion so that these questions/debates are a little more meaningful. Reading Comprehension skills are pretty low nowadays.

 

[grenwood]

"In the original context, Kushina IS referring to finding someone like her personality wise. I had a friend, who is Japanese, translate and tell me what he thought. He is not into the Naruto manga and even asked me afterwards where the page was from. So this is not a bias statement, it is fact."

You didn't read the post, and you failed to read the question I asked......You yourself can answer it regardless of your pairing preference...but you chose to skip it it seems <_<

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but how can we trust you? you admitted to being a troll!

 

[Byron123]

To me, since this is after Hinata's confession, Sakura's kind of feeling gloomy. When Hinata made her confession to Naruto, Sakura seemed pretty down about that. Most likely, in her mind, Naruto is spoken for... and until he says otherwise, off-limits to her. That leaves her only with Sasuke until she has a resolution with him.



No, Sakura didn't ignore Naruto. I think it's more that she was surprised to see Sasuke trying to save her, rather than just Naruto. To her, it's a step towards Sasuke being back to his old self. "Sasuke-kun", for her, is as habitual as "Sakura-chan" is to Naruto.

You may be right but from the other hand Sasuke's old self couldn't also mean Sakura's old-self? Ofc I can't say that she will loose her respect for Naruto but what if Sasuke's change causes Sakura to fall in love with him again....if she actually ever stopped being.

 

[NarutoSamaKama]

I see what you are saying but Nh looks like its going to happen. I mean Hinata revolves around naruto, everything she ever does is for him. Neji said their lifes are connected. I feel it would be a waste of the character Hinata period if it was not Nh. And all the stuff naruto and hinata does, happens for a reason.

 

[BakaaNaruto]

I don't see how anyone deserves anybody. Naruto has been consistent with who he likes and he is aware who both girls like yet despite all that the one girl has done and said, he reiterates who he still likes because his feelings hasn't changed.
Kishimoto has prolonged the entire story but as far as pairing is concern, I only see one possible outcome and that's NaruSaku.

What are your thoughts of the pairing? Has he prolonged the pairing for too long?
Going back to the deserving part, with all the things Naruto has gone through for her and the village, we come to question DOES she deserve to be paired with Naruto.

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[Byron123]

Your last statements were right on, I wish more of the base would open their eyes and come to the same conclusion so that these questions/debates are a little more meaningful. Reading Comprehension skills are pretty low nowadays.

Lo'l it's not as straightforward as you may think for her second point. Isn't it true that in the past Sakura was always acknowledging first Sasuke and then Naruto? And isn't true that it was mainly because of her being in love with the former? So what makes you so sure that just like in the past, Sasuke's acknowledgement here by her isn't as well derived by these same feeling she had for him in the past and probably even now?

 

[BakaaNaruto]

but how can we trust you? you admitted to being a troll!

You can ask native speakers, or put personal preference into the matter which I hope you don't. There's enough people straying off from the question. If I have posted anything that might be false or as someone put it "distorting" the truth, than yeah you can ignore this thread since it's not credible.