Misconception: Minato defeats sasori. When in fact sasori defeats Minato mid diff.

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I didn't read through this thread completely, but I'd like to clear up something that was early on in the thread.

Flamethrowers and iron sand wouldn't work. Minato has been shown to use space-time barriers remotely. So these counters won't work.

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Let's not forget that he can somehow get his kunai to distant areas.
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I'd also like to bring this to the table. Sasori was worried about Sakura analyzing his attacks and dodging them. If someone with no speed feats can make Sasori worry, someone like Minato would probably be able to dodge most, if not all his attacks.
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Once Sasori gets to an aerial state , and covers himself like this
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Pretty much over.. considering Minato will have nothing to counter him.. and the longer the fight goes on... the more sand third kazekage can make..

Satetsu destroys the ground or the area. Satetsu can cover the seals. What now?



No. Do you want me to get the scan where Chiyo said metallic weapons are useless against Sasori?

@akatsukichurch please provide that scan.

i can always count on you guys.
 

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Actually Sasori's puppet has Magnet Release not Sasori.And thats Magnetism release.Iron Sand does not attract Metal.It only gives the user powers over Iron Sand.Toroi has Magnetism Release.


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it's the same kkg

thus the shinobi stated in suprise " there were magnet release users in kumogakure as well??!"




The longer this fight goes on.. and it will go on for a long time.. the better Sasori's odds.. eventually, depending on the location.. he'll turn the entire battlefield into iron sand.. then there's really nowhere for Minato to run to
 

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look u got many misconception in this thread. let me point out some

1.you said minato's only wepons is kunai and rashingan and they are very weak wepons.

don't underestimate rashingan. Minato's rashingan shattered the whole arm of tobi but suigutsu's full blow sword attack was easily blocked by Tobi's hand without any problem. Rashingan + speed = bullet

similarly minato's kunai cut off Bee's tentacles like a hot knife cuts through butter hence it wont be a problem for minato to destroy sasori's puppets.

2.minato don't have marks on kunai's only. he can just touch a surface or puppet himself and put a mark on it and use it for FTG spam hence it solves magnet problem and fire problem.

3.sasori is a mid level intelligence ninja which automatically gives edge to minato because sasori couldn't prepare a good strategy to counter juvenile sakura and old lady chiyo. + sasori even couldn't defeat kankuro while he was edo. which automatically makes him a noob user of powerful tech hence minato wins tactically and intellectually.

4.Minato can use food cart destroyer or space time barrier to avoid any potential spam of barrage of poisonous needeles. + his emmese speed and reflex with definitely save him. If fodder sakura and chiyo could dodze those slow attacks of sasori then minato will have no problem at all.

5.100 puppets of sasori is totally useless tools because more the tools more difficulty for sasori to managae them all , as he had problems managing those puppets against sakura.

6. the speed at which sasori's heart was moving from one puppet to another was really very slow. minato can hit the bull's eye with his bare kunai no diff at all.

7.+ minato is a very efficient kage bushin user so sasori will be left awed and perplexed , confused during the whole battle. during this minato will just analyze the battle field and detect the real sasori and he can may be tag sasori body, or use foodcart destroyer , may be some sort of seal on him or he can simply destroy it with a rashingan to the chest.

come at me bro. I got many points but I think these are enough.
 

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I didn't read through this thread completely, but I'd like to clear up something that was early on in the thread.

Flamethrowers and iron sand wouldn't work. Minato has been shown to use space-time barriers remotely. So these counters won't work.

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Let's not forget that he can somehow get his kunai to distant areas.
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I'd also like to bring this to the table. Sasori was worried about Sakura analyzing his attacks and dodging them. If someone with no speed feats can make Sasori worry, someone like Minato would probably be able to dodge most, if not all his attacks.
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Please note that sakura had a master puppet user with her also at the time, which can also be part of the reason as to why sasori was worrying somewhat since sakura was also being controlled via chakra string.
 

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Here with no knowledge

Sasori start with hiruko and minato start with throwing kunai. Sasori will use mouth sabon at minato, minato eather dodge it or use his FTG. And throw a kunai at hiruko and hiruko block it with his tail and minato teleport to kunai and BAM rasengan hiruko puppet..And sasori come out and he already know what minato is capable of and his FTG/Rasengan and speed.

and the real fight start like the post did.
 

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Metallic weapons are useless against Sasori, hurrrr durrr.

If Kazekage puppet is out. But, Oh wait, Minato has shushin. Unless sasori will control the Iron in his body so he can't just him and
 

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If it does attract FTG Kunai that would be to Minato's advantage.To get close to Sasori and finish him.
 

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Please note that sakura had a master puppet user with her also at the time, which can also be part of the reason as to why sasori was worrying somewhat since sakura was also being controlled via chakra string.


I'd be inclined to agree with you, but Chiyo stopped helping at that time. here's 2 pages earlier.

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Anyway, before I make more comments, I'm gonna read the rest of the thread and then come to my conclusion. However, my personal opinion is that Minato is too high a level for Sasori, despite the fact that he's a high kage level. You responded to my second point, but what about my first? Why didn't you mention that one? Just curious since alot of times, people don't respond to things when I try to prove them.
 

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look u got many misconception in this thread. let me point out some

1.you said minato's only wepons is kunai and rashingan and they are very weak wepons.

don't underestimate rashingan. Minato's rashingan shattered the whole arm of tobi but suigutsu's full blow sword attack was easily blocked by Tobi's hand without any problem. Rashingan + speed = bullet

similarly minato's kunai cut off Bee's tentacles like a hot knife cuts through butter hence it wont be a problem for minato to destroy sasori's puppets.

2.minato don't have marks on kunai's only. he can just touch a surface or puppet himself and put a mark on it and use it for FTG spam hence it solves magnet problem and fire problem.

3.sasori is a mid level intelligence ninja which automatically gives edge to minato because sasori couldn't prepare a good strategy to counter juvenile sakura and old lady chiyo. + sasori even couldn't defeat kankuro while he was edo. which automatically makes him a noob user of powerful tech hence minato wins tactically and intellectually.

4.Minato can use food cart destroyer or space time barrier to avoid any potential spam of barrage of poisonous needeles. + his emmese speed and reflex with definitely save him. If fodder sakura and chiyo could dodze those slow attacks of sasori then minato will have no problem at all.

5.100 puppets of sasori is totally useless tools because more the tools more difficulty for sasori to managae them all , as he had problems managing those puppets against sakura.

6. the speed at which sasori's heart was moving from one puppet to another was really very slow. minato can hit the bull's eye with his bare kunai no diff at all.

7.+ minato is a very efficient kage bushin user so sasori will be left awed and perplexed , confused during the whole battle. during this minato will just analyze the battle field and detect the real sasori and he can may be tag sasori body, or use foodcart destroyer , may be some sort of seal on him or he can simply destroy it with a rashingan to the chest.

come at me bro. I got many points but I think these are enough.

I already provided scans proving sakuras punch has more destructive power than minatos rasegan.. so minato destroying sasoris main body is futile.

Your right minato can put seals on the surface but that surface it self can be covered in iron sand by sasori if minato lands in it can be a dangerous situation for minato himself.

the speed at which sasori's heart was moving from one puppet to another was really very slow. minato can hit the bull's eye with his bare kunai no diff at all.

i doubt a simple kunai will destroy his heart when it took two large swords to pierce it..
 

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We got a funny guy here, since when is minato a master puppeteer? Not too mention sasori can make minatos movement sieze for a moment or two by covering a large portion of the ground with iron sand, i doubt minato will be able to keep track one 100 puppets and potential iron sand on the floor beneath him which can hold his feet or leg.

What are you talking about? Chiyo helped sakura avoid attacks,
Sakura isn't more agile than the man acclaimed to be the fastest shinobi. Sasori Couldn't even hit sakura. but he's hitting minato? Please.

Really IS on the ground? Somehow sasori has time to;
LEave hiruko
Summon kazekage
Summon Enough IS
And Spread it on the floor

before minato and It's all downhill from when he's tagged. He can never run, hide, or capture minato because there's a seal on his body and pupeteers suck at taijutsu.

That won't happen. And, even if it doesn. He summons bunta and jumps around. Sasori can't cover of 8x Bunta cubed Considering bunta can jump 8x his length in any direction, even up.
 

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Seriously .. What kind of stupid answer was that .. He cant touch Minato im sorry lol. Quick aint fair.

Somebody who sweats Sakura being to fast and figuring him out overwhelming Minato ? I doubt it

Pretty sure she was being contolled via chakra strings..
 

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Sasori could just throw away all the FTG Kunai away from himself with chakra strings. That way, Sasori is perfectly safe from any speed blitzes.
 

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I already provided scans proving sakuras punch has more destructive power than minatos rasegan.. so minato destroying sasoris main body is futile.

Your right minato can put seals on the surface but that surface it self can be covered in iron sand by sasori if minato lands in it can be a dangerous situation for minato himself.

the speed at which sasori's heart was moving from one puppet to another was really very slow. minato can hit the bull's eye with his bare kunai no diff at all.

i doubt a simple kunai will destroy his heart when it took two large swords to pierce it..

He even said that the speed the heart moves is very slow as well. How come Chiyo nor Sakura didn't see it if it was that slow then? But you have a point as well. :p
 

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Niceee. Oh wait.. Sasori is not a normal puppeter.. He uses those blades on him to rotate and keep Minato off him, hurrr durrr.

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Lol. Why would Sasori pull the kunais next to himself? Nice try though.

that doesn't make him better at taijutsu. A spinning predictable blade can be avoided especially for the guy with the best reflexes.

SAKURA overwhelmed sasori with her 'speed feats' - Able to dodge his attacks, etc. But, minato can't??? :leaf: :leaf: :leaf:

Sasori could just throw away all the FTG Kunai away from himself with chakra strings. That way, Sasori is perfectly safe from any speed blitzes.
Then it won't stop minato using ftg defensively to dodge every single one of sasori's attacks. Moving his kunai around doesn't nullify FtG.
 

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I'd be inclined to agree with you, but Chiyo stopped helping at that time. here's 2 pages earlier.

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Anyway, before I make more comments, I'm gonna read the rest of the thread and then come to my conclusion. However, my personal opinion is that Minato is too high a level for Sasori, despite the fact that he's a high kage level. You responded to my second point, but what about my first? Why didn't you mention that one? Just curious since alot of times, people don't respond to things when I try to prove them.

huh? please take notice she was able to see through his attack pattern because chiyo was also there and she was being controlled via chakra strings which gave her a bit of practice up close to sasori, chiyo saids without her assistance but she was probably referring to that current moment not earlier, i doubt sakura could had figured out his attack pattern if it wasnt for chiyo earlier
 
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that doesn't make him better at taijutsu. A spinning predictable blade can be avoided especially for the guy with the best reflexes.

SAKURA overwhelmed sasori with her 'speed feats' - Able to dodge his attacks, etc. But, minato can't??? :leaf: :leaf: :leaf:
Sakura never overwhelmed him. Nice asspull though. Where did I say that the blades will kill Minato? It will keep him off Sasori so no Taijutsu combat for you Minato.
 

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What are you talking about? Chiyo helped sakura avoid attacks,
Sakura isn't more agile than the man acclaimed to be the fastest shinobi. Sasori Couldn't even hit sakura. but he's hitting minato? Please.

Really IS on the ground? Somehow sasori has time to;
LEave hiruko
Summon kazekage
Summon Enough IS
And Spread it on the floor

before minato and It's all downhill from when he's tagged. He can never run, hide, or capture minato because there's a seal on his body and pupeteers suck at taijutsu.

That won't happen. And, even if it doesn. He summons bunta and jumps around. Sasori can't cover of 8x Bunta cubed Considering bunta can jump 8x his length in any direction, even up.

Thats what i meant, no one is manipulating minatos movements here against a puppet master.

wtf.. is this guy for real your acting like it takes 10 years to summon the kazekage puppet.




sasori pulled out his scroll and the kazekage instantly appeared.
 

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huh? please take notice she was able to see through his attack pattern because chiyo was also there and she was being controlled via chakra strings which gave her a bit of practice up close to sasori, chiyo saids without her assistance but she was probably referring to that current moment not ealier, i doubt sakura could had figured out his attack pattern if ti wasnt for chiyo earlier

Regardless, Minato is much faster and has the best reflexes in the manga along with Uchihas. Sasori was also using new tricks, not old. This means that Sakura had to adjust. Since she escaped being impaled from the iron sand spikes and only got a single scratch. If Minato were put in the same position, he'd evade it completely.

Anyway, I'm done reading the thread. I say that Minato could still win. Feel free to prove me wrong.

I've also noticed some errors in the OP's logic. I'll cover those in a different post.
 
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