Stop amping Naruto and Minato's Summoning Jutsu abilities.

[Prestonyoko]

Quit saying that Naruto and Minato can summon Ma and Pa and use them for battle, most annoying sh**t ever. :nuts:

Just because they can summon Gamabunta doesn't mean they know how to summon all the frogs in Mount Myoboku.

That's like saying Sasuke and Madara can use Izanami just because he has Sharingan.

UNELESS we see them actually do it, you can't just assume that they can Summon Ma and Pa. :sy:

And lets say they can summon Ma an Pa :ls:

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DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW LONG IT TAKES TO SUMMON THEM?!

When Jiraiya had to try and Summon Ma and Pa it took him at least 5 Minutes tops just to Summon them.

And he can't use his arms also which is a MAJOR disadvantage.

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How t'f is Minato or Naruto going to be able to fight their opponent for 5 Minutes without using their arms?

How will Minato be able to throw is FTG Kunai if his arms are preoccupied?

How is Naurto going to use his Rasengan Variations without his hands?

But why would it even matter when they CAN'T Summon them anyways. They never had nor never will.


This needed to be said :stfu:

Thoughts?

 

[Supreme x Uchiha]

Who says that?

Moreover, who cares?

 

[doubledude]

Well, Naruto has clones for it and as far is it goes for Minato, we don't even know if he can use Sage Mode...

 

[warlee]

Kishi said it in an interview that naruto can summon any frog, unfortunatly i don't have the scan. And seriously kishi is gimpin thier summonin abilities, naruto should be able to summon frog stomach and developo his collaboration justu, maybe after the war.

 

[Zayon Uchiha]

oooh k i understand what your saying O_O and also Minato doesn't have sage mode so yeah

 

[FlemSmack]

I have no doubts that Naruto can summon what ever frog he wants.

 

[Prestonyoko]

Who says that?

Moreover, who cares?

Who says that?

leader naruto: smmart, might track enemy, great strategist, might put enemy under genjutsu with ma pa toad. sino because bug. hinata byakugan and ino for telepathy

And I care

Well, Naruto has clones for it and as far is it goes for Minato, we don't even know if he can use Sage Mode...

Its not just for using Sage Mode. It's for the whole "sound genjutsu"

 

[Vetox]

Minato can place a FTG seal somewhere in Mount Myoboku and teleport there and fetch Ma and Pa himself XD

But still. No proof that Minato has sage mode. I dont see a necessity for Naruto to use sage mode. Since BM Naruto > SM Naruto. Unless he needs to sense natural chakra or the Kyuubi's chakra is exhausted.

I see a lot of ways for Naruto to buy himself 5 mins of time. Make hundreds of shadow clones, make one sneak away somewhere and summon them.

But he can get more Sage mode chakra from his clones with the reverse summoning technique, so meh.

I dunno what to say......

 

[tristan]

Quit saying that Naruto and Minato can summon Ma and Pa and use them for battle, most annoying sh**t ever. :nuts:

Just because they can summon Gamabunta doesn't mean they know how to summon all the frogs in Mount Myoboku.

That's like saying Sasuke and Madara can use Izanami just because he has Sharingan.

UNELESS we see them actually do it, you can't just assume that they can Summon Ma and Pa. :sy:

And lets say they can summon Ma an Pa :ls:

Spoiler

DO YOU HAVE ANY IDEA HOW LONG IT TAKES TO SUMMON THEM?!

When Jiraiya had to try and Summon Ma and Pa it took him at least 5 Minutes tops just to Summon them.

And he can't use his arms also which is a MAJOR disadvantage.

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How t'f is Minato or Naruto going to be able to fight their opponent for 5 Minutes without using their arms?

How will Minato be able to throw is FTG Kunai if his arms are preoccupied?

How is Naurto going to use his Rasengan Variations without his hands?

But why would it even matter when they CAN'T Summon them anyways. They never had nor never will.


This needed to be said :stfu:

Thoughts?

A contract with the frogs means you can summon them...
Deal with it...

Jiraiya took long time because he was charging up for sage mode...the only reason why ma and pa was included in the summon is to ensure he maintains it...both minato and naruto have shorter ways to call them up...

1.For naruto, he's already fast in turning to sage mode...if it requires large chakra to summon them guess what?its there with him...besides, naruto already showed that he can start the battle with all frogs...why are u restricting them now?
2.for minato, he can leave marking on those two frogs and summon them right away...

 

[Blast41]

If i did by into this fail thread then the answer would simply be chakra arms in their km/bm mode. Naruto have K11 on his side.

 

[Vetox]

Its not just for using Sage Mode. It's for the whole "sound genjutsu"

Aah for that. Then maybe Minato can fetch him by himself and Naruto....well he cant do anything.

Maybe make a clone sneak away from the battle and summon them.....That could work....But too bad Naruto doesnt work that way.....

 

[Vetox]

A contract with the frogs means you can summon them...
Deal with it...

Jiraiya took long time because he was charging up for sage mode...the only reason why ma and pa was included in the summon is to ensure he maintains it...

But summoning Ma and Pa first would have allowed him to go into sage mode faster. And dont you have to be completely stationary to gain sage mode chakra? Jiraiya was moving, except for his arms.

 

[Prestonyoko]

oooh k i understand what your saying O_O and also Minato doesn't have sage mode so yeah

I'm not talking about using it just for Sage Mode, it's for the whole "sound genjutsu" thing

Kishi said it in an interview that naruto can summon any frog, unfortunatly i don't have the scan. And seriously kishi is gimpin thier summonin abilities, naruto should be able to summon frog stomach and developo his collaboration justu, maybe after the war.

Well unless you have that interview....that argument is invalid...

I have no doubts that Naruto can summon what ever frog he wants.

:flaw:

 

[minato12345]

nobody cares

 

[tristan]

But summoning Ma and Pa first would have allowed him to go into sage mode faster. And dont you have to be completely stationary to gain sage mode chakra? Jiraiya was moving, except for his arms.

Jiraiya said it himself that his sagemode was imperfect...nwei for naruto he's already fast with it...and he even started pain battle with all the frogs on his side...as for minato, he can just place a marking on ma and pa...it doesnt matter since he has a contract with frogs...

 

[N1N3TA1L35]

Who says that?

Moreover, who cares?

^^^^^^This.

 

[MinatoTheYellowFlash]

Actually Sasuke and Madara can. And I agree don't compare Naruto to Minato...ever.

 

[phylos]

He has a contract with the toads, meaning he can summon them, hell they found out that random toad they left in the village died when its name disappeared from the contract, methinks.

Also the implication that Madara can't use every Uchiha technique made me chuckle.

 

[ShisuiReborn]

But summoning Ma and Pa first would have allowed him to go into sage mode faster. And dont you have to be completely stationary to gain sage mode chakra? Jiraiya was moving, except for his arms.

The USER as to be stationary. You can still ride around on top of a giant, clumsy toad for the duration. But, in general, I see no reason why they wouldn't be able to summon them. Nobody ever said a frog had to agree with you first to be summoned. Naruto summoned Gamabunta the first time without ever seeing him before.

 

[Crow Zero]

Its not like kishi care :|