Stop amping Naruto and Minato's Summoning Jutsu abilities.

[Willer014]

A contract with the frogs means you can summon them...
Deal with it...

Jiraiya took long time because he was charging up for sage mode...the only reason why ma and pa was included in the summon is to ensure he maintains it...both minato and naruto have shorter ways to call them up...

1.For naruto, he's already fast in turning to sage mode...if it requires large chakra to summon them guess what?its there with him...besides, naruto already showed that he can start the battle with all frogs...why are u restricting them now?
2.for minato, he can leave marking on those two frogs and summon them right away...

perfect answer...

although, we haven't seen Minato do the summoning using FTG... the usage of the marks on kunai or different things is to go where the markings are... NOT making those things go to Minato...

 

[Prestonyoko]

Minato can place a FTG seal somewhere in Mount Myoboku and teleport there and fetch Ma and Pa himself XD

But still. No proof that Minato has sage mode. I dont see a necessity for Naruto to use sage mode. Since BM Naruto > SM Naruto. Unless he needs to sense natural chakra or the Kyuubi's chakra is exhausted.

I see a lot of ways for Naruto to buy himself 5 mins of time. Make hundreds of shadow clones, make one sneak away somewhere and summon them.

But he can get more Sage mode chakra from his clones with the reverse summoning technique, so meh.

I dunno what to say......

Minato "can" place a FTG Seal but didn't, you have no proff that there is a seal there.

Argument Invalid

A contract with the frogs means you can summon them...
Deal with it...

Jiraiya took long time because he was charging up for sage mode...the only reason why ma and pa was included in the summon is to ensure he maintains it...both minato and naruto have shorter ways to call them up...

1.For naruto, he's already fast in turning to sage mode...if it requires large chakra to summon them guess what?its there with him...besides, naruto already showed that he can start the battle with all frogs...why are u restricting them now?
2.for minato, he can leave marking on those two frogs and summon them right away...

If i did by into this fail thread then the answer would simply be chakra arms in their km/bm mode. Naruto have K11 on his side.

1: He can start the battle with all the frogs? XD Show me a scan where he summoned Ma and Pa.

2: He "can" mark them, doesn't mean its there, so he can't summon them, deal with it.

Aah for that. Then maybe Minato can fetch him by himself and Naruto....well he cant do anything.

Maybe make a clone sneak away from the battle and summon them.....That could work....But too bad Naruto doesnt work that way.....

True, True.

But summoning Ma and Pa first would have allowed him to go into sage mode faster. And dont you have to be completely stationary to gain sage mode chakra? Jiraiya was moving, except for his arms.

I never once said that you have to be "stationary" to summon them. :sy:

nobody cares

*Apparently doesn't care*

*Cares enough to comment on the thread*

:sy:

Actually Sasuke and Madara can. And I agree don't compare Naruto to Minato...ever.

T'f? Prove that Madara and Sasuke can use Izanami

He has a contract with the toads, meaning he can summon them, hell they found out that random toad they left in the village died when its name disappeared from the contract, methinks.

Also the implication that Madara can't use every Uchiha technique made me chuckle.

Every Uchiha can't use all Uchiha Techniques, its comparable to Summoning Jutsu where you can't summon everything.

The USER as to be stationary. You can still ride around on top of a giant, clumsy toad for the duration. But, in general, I see no reason why they wouldn't be able to summon them. Nobody ever said a frog had to agree with you first to be summoned. Naruto summoned Gamabunta the first time without ever seeing him before.

Naruto has never summoned them, nor never will. probably too dumb to know how.

Jiraiya said it himself that his sagemode was imperfect...nwei for naruto he's already fast with it...and he even started pain battle with all the frogs on his side...as for minato, he can just place a marking on ma and pa...it doesnt matter since he has a contract with frogs...

Im not talking about Sage Mode! :nuts: omg

So with your logic then Obito must be able to use Amaterasu Right?

 

[the last shinobi]

A contract with the frogs means you can summon them...
Deal with it...

Jiraiya took long time because he was charging up for sage mode...the only reason why ma and pa was included in the summon is to ensure he maintains it...both minato and naruto have shorter ways to call them up...

1.For naruto, he's already fast in turning to sage mode...if it requires large chakra to summon them guess what?its there with him...besides, naruto already showed that he can start the battle with all frogs...why are u restricting them now?
2.for minato, he can leave marking on those two frogs and summon them right away...

Are you talking about the pain fight when ma summon all the frogs and naruto

 

[phylos]

Every Uchiha can't use all Uchiha Techniques, its comparable to Summoning Jutsu where you can't summon everything.

You're right, every Uchiha can't use all Uchiha techniques. Madara isn't "every Uchiha".
And you're right, the summoning technique can't summon everything. A summoning contract with the toads, however, does mean you can summon every toad.

 

[Prestonyoko]

JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS

I'm not talking about Sage Mode! I dunno how this got thorwn into the topic.

To make myself more clear, Naruto and Minato Can't summon Ma and Pa because they never had not never will.

So don't say in versus threads that they can have Ma and Pa use "Sound Genjustu"

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

they can summon them
Naruto >>> your fav
sound genjutsu gg
lol jk

 

[Minator93]

This retard again?

 

[Vetox]

The USER as to be stationary. You can still ride around on top of a giant, clumsy toad for the duration. But, in general, I see no reason why they wouldn't be able to summon them. Nobody ever said a frog had to agree with you first to be summoned. Naruto summoned Gamabunta the first time without ever seeing him before.

Agreed. Gamabunta kinda disagreed that Naruto summoned him.

Didnt Jiraiya move a lot? That was how it was in the Anime. I can swear I remember him moving a lot. Just his hands were stationary. I think hee also said that only his hands had to be stationary. But I'm sure he moved a lot.

Jiraiya said it himself that his sagemode was imperfect...nwei for naruto he's already fast with it...and he even started pain battle with all the frogs on his side...as for minato, he can just place a marking on ma and pa...it doesnt matter since he has a contract with frogs...

Minato cant summon things with the FTG markings on them. Maybe he can teleport to Myoboku and fetch Ma and Pa himself.

 

[the last shinobi]

The USER as to be stationary. You can still ride around on top of a giant, clumsy toad for the duration. But, in general, I see no reason why they wouldn't be able to summon them. Nobody ever said a frog had to agree with you first to be summoned. Naruto summoned Gamabunta the first time without ever seeing him before.

You are right but the first thing Pervy sage did after he put his hands together was jump into the air and make a barrier. he also did alot of running around as bought time to summon ma and pa. I think the more powerful the summon the more chakra you need to summon it. You remember when naruto was learning how to summon at first it was tadpoles and he worked his way up

 

[End of Days]

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[Vetox]

JUST SO EVERYBODY KNOWS

I'm not talking about Sage Mode! I dunno how this got thorwn into the topic.

To make myself more clear, Naruto and Minato Can't summon Ma and Pa because they never had not never will.

So don't say in versus threads that they can have Ma and Pa use "Sound Genjustu"

Stop screaming....

Why cant they? Where does it say that the frogs have to agree to be summoned. Im sure Naruto, Minato and Jiraiya can summon what ever the frogs they want. It just depends on the amount of chakra they put into it and maybe their will.

naruto summoned a tadpole the first time he tried. Im sure he didnt get that tadpole to agreed to be summoned before hand.

 

[Prestonyoko]

You're right, every Uchiha can't use all Uchiha techniques. Madara isn't "every Uchiha".
And you're right, the summoning technique can't summon everything. A summoning contract with the toads, however, does mean you can summon every toad.

I didn't say Madara is "Every Uchiha" And if you don't have the knowledge on HOW to summon Ma and Pa then you can't summon them, just Like Sasuke not Knowing how to perform Izanami.

Do you get it now?

Are you talking about the pain fight when ma summon all the frogs and naruto

Extacly, Ma summoned herself and Naruto and the rest of the toads, Not Naruto.

 

[Vetox]

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Kudos to you man

 

[phylos]

I didn't say Madara is "Every Uchiha" And if you don't have the knowledge on HOW to summon Ma and Pa then you can't summon them, just Like Sasuke not Knowing how to perform Izanami.

Do you get it now?

Eeer that doesn't actually refute my point, Minato and Naruto have the contract and thus they can summon them, the sages are more difficult to summon than the other toads but anyone with the contract can still summon them.

And you mentioned Madara, not Sasuke. I agree that Sasuke can't perform that technique since he didn't even know of its existence.

 

[Prestonyoko]

they can summon them
Naruto >>> your fav
sound genjutsu gg
lol jk

Wut? lol

This retard again?

Says the person who's mad that he can't except Itachi > Minato because its true XD

Agreed. Gamabunta kinda disagreed that Naruto summoned him.

Didnt Jiraiya move a lot? That was how it was in the Anime. I can swear I remember him moving a lot. Just his hands were stationary. I think hee also said that only his hands had to be stationary. But I'm sure he moved a lot.



Minato cant summon things with the FTG markings on them. Maybe he can teleport to Myoboku and fetch Ma and Pa himself.

True Sh**t riighjt here

You are right but the first thing Pervy sage did after he put his hands together was jump into the air and make a barrier. he also did alot of running around as bought time to summon ma and pa. I think the more powerful the summon the more chakra you need to summon it. You remember when naruto was learning how to summon at first it was tadpoles and he worked his way up

But Summoning Ma and PA is defferent.

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I can't see the picture but if thats a picture of Naruto arriving at Konoha when he's about to fight pain then you fail.

Ma summoned Naruto and the rest of the Toads XD fail.

Stop screaming....

Why cant they? Where does it say that the frogs have to agree to be summoned. Im sure Naruto, Minato and Jiraiya can summon what ever the frogs they want. It just depends on the amount of chakra they put into it and maybe their will.

naruto summoned a tadpole the first time he tried. Im sure he didnt get that tadpole to agreed to be summoned before hand.

Im not screaming, im getting your attention with Lager words

If I was screaming there would be "!!!!!" These

Ma and Pa can't be summoned the normal Summoning jutsu way, if you've seen Jiraiya summon them.

You would know this.

 

[Prestonyoko]

Kudos to you man

Don't Kudos Him!!

Eeer that doesn't actually refute my point, Minato and Naruto have the contract and thus they can summon them, the sages are more difficult to summon than the other toads but anyone with the contract can still summon them.

And you mentioned Madara, not Sasuke. I agree that Sasuke can't perform that technique since he didn't even know of its existence.

Summoning Ma and Pa requires a deiffernt method, a method Minato and Naruto have no knlowledge of performing =D

 

[phylos]

Says the person who's mad that he can't except Itachi > Minato because its true XD




Im not screaming, im getting your attention with Lager words

If I was screaming there would be "!!!!!" These

Your parents must be so proud of you.

You know how is the act of "getting someone's attention with larger words" called in real life? Screaming, that's its name. And, in the internet, all capitals is generally accepted as the parallel of screaming in real life.

Summoning Ma and Pa requires a deiffernt method, a method Minato and Naruto have no knlowledge of performing =D

This is your speculation.

 

[End of Days]

I can't see the picture but if thats a picture of Naruto arriving at Konoha when he's about to fight pain then you fail.

Ma summoned Naruto and the rest of the Toads XD fail.

oh you poor kid, change your eyeballs cause the other guy could see it

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[Prestonyoko]

oh you poor kid, change your eyeballs cause the other guy could see it

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It's the computer im on, it blocks the image and says its a "broken image"

Your parents must be so proud of you.

You know how is the act of "getting someone's attention with larger words" called in real life? Screaming, that's its name. And, in the internet, all capitals is generally accepted as the parallel of screaming in real life.



This is your speculation.

Why would my parents be pround of me? T'f? Are your parents proud that your on NB?

And Speculation? It's truth U_U

 

[Avinash012]

A contract with the frogs means you can summon them...
Deal with it...

Jiraiya took long time because he was charging up for sage mode...the only reason why ma and pa was included in the summon is to ensure he maintains it...both minato and naruto have shorter ways to call them up...

1.For naruto, he's already fast in turning to sage mode...if it requires large chakra to summon them guess what?its there with him...besides, naruto already showed that he can start the battle with all frogs...why are u restricting them now?
2.for minato, he can leave marking on those two frogs and summon them right away...

This dude is right.....& it doesen't mean that u should enter SM to summon them it just require's grater amount of chakra which is there along with both Naruto and Minato as wel.....I dnt think Minato need's Ma and Pa to fight,,,,