[Debate] Give me one valid reason to why we support Israel

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And why we should keep supporting Israel.

Religious and philosophical reasons don't count as valid.
 

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Please don't assume we are all from the same country.
 

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There are a lot of hidden reasons as to why the U.S supports isreal. What, I don't know yet.
 

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Well first and foremost you must specify "we"....American, British, Sweedish, Palestinian ;).

After that, most likely because the nations likely have trade between them. In addition, through mutual co-operation, we prevent more outbreaks of war and senseless death. I'm speaking of we as an American...

But yeah, Trade, Peace, Past Alliances against common enemies....stuff like that most likely.
 

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Well first and foremost you must specify "we"....American, British, Sweedish, Palestinian ;).

After that, most likely because the nations likely have trade between them. In addition, through mutual co-operation, we prevent more outbreaks of war and senseless death. I'm speaking of we as an American...

But yeah, Trade, Peace, Past Alliances against common enemies....stuff like that most likely.

What does Israel have to sell? Big noses?
 

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Dude, seriously stop posting these threads. Between your thread "The Bible is just an Incest Story" and now you're trying to start fires with this. Cut it out.
 

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Dude, seriously stop posting these threads. Between your thread "The Bible is just an Incest Story" and now you're trying to start fires with this. Cut it out.

This is a serious thread about politics...
 

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This is a serious thread about politics...

You're kidding me right? Going through your past threads there is nothing serious about you. In fact, I don't even have to go to your threads, just looking at your signature I know you're a terrible troll whose only intent is sowing discord.

Reported again.
 

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From a purely functional point of view?

To what countries in that immediate region can you travel as a civilian?

What nations willingly and openly participate in trade?

What nations have advocated violence against U.S. citizens and/or Western societies as a whole?

We can argue all we want to about what could be - what should be, etc. What matters is reality. Pretty much all of the people in Israel, today, are there because they were born there. It is, in every sense of the word, their home. Palistinian or other claims that their 'home' has been invaded fall to a similar problem... none of the people alive, there, can legitimately claim that is their home. It would be akin to some guy trying to come along and claim that his grandfather owned the property your house is built on before it was stolen from him by some shady government activity.

The only reason it's dangerous for someone like me to go to Israel is because some whacked-out Palistinian or Iranian might just decide my head coming off would look good on YouTube... or just happen to lob a mortar into where I'm at. Otherwise - the only issue we have with Israel is that they can be a little subversive and manipulative. Not too big of a deal once you get used to it, though.
 

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lol , why not ?

Because if we support a country just because we felt sorry for them after the Holocaust that's not going to help us. We have about 15 trillion in debt, we don't need to be wasting our time giving money to countries so they can defend themselves, we need to think about (I'm talking about the US) ourselves and our debt and our economy.
 

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You say this is a serious thread, then make a jab at stereotypes with Israel. What hypocrisy!

I was trying to make a point, if they're selling us something, what are they selling? We don't know?
 

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From a purely functional point of view?

To what countries in that immediate region can you travel as a civilian?

What nations willingly and openly participate in trade?

What nations have advocated violence against U.S. citizens and/or Western societies as a whole?

We can argue all we want to about what could be - what should be, etc. What matters is reality. Pretty much all of the people in Israel, today, are there because they were born there. It is, in every sense of the word, their home. Palistinian or other claims that their 'home' has been invaded fall to a similar problem... none of the people alive, there, can legitimately claim that is their home. It would be akin to some guy trying to come along and claim that his grandfather owned the property your house is built on before it was stolen from him by some shady government activity.

The only reason it's dangerous for someone like me to go to Israel is because some whacked-out Palistinian or Iranian might just decide my head coming off would look good on YouTube... or just happen to lob a mortar into where I'm at. Otherwise - the only issue we have with Israel is that they can be a little subversive and manipulative. Not too big of a deal once you get used to it, though.

So basically because the more allies we have the stronger we are?
 

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WTF is this shit. .
 

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So basically because the more allies we have the stronger we are?

And what exactly is your definition of ally? Yes the more allies you have the stronger you are. Let's use an example you might understand. Which is easier when playing pokemon?

A. Playing with a team of 6

B. Playing with a team of 1

The United States is also the worlds last superpower, as was stated before we make a point to protect the oppressed...those who couldn't defend themselves otherwise.

I was trying to make a point, if they're selling us something, what are they selling? We don't know?

A point which is racist and otherwise NOT allowed here.
 
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