[Theory] Sasuke Has Gotten Weaker Since Kabuto Fight

[Prime Rib]

What you just said.. loss some credibility.. You need Amaterasu (A legit MS ability) to implement blaze release dude. Without it, is like saying you can only manipulate Amaterasu if someone is around to create it.

no it was never stated in the manga that sasuke can only use blaze release with just amat and his ms? Its stated that its a KKG Aka Advanced chakra nature, just like how hashirama has wood release duh dude as hashirama needs earth and water to use. sauske can use blaze release with fire and unknown element

 

[Sephiron]

We've seen his power of hatred, what about his power of love? Lol

That is kinda what I've been saying.. Although Sasuke might be or seem to be weaker ATM doesn't mean that his new resolve won't make him stronger later.. I was simply saying that because of his new change.. it's likely that he's going through a temporary power struggle. As the sharginan reflects feelings, and Sasuke's "feelings" has changed.. his powers are definitely linked

 

[BlackBison]

I agree somewhat with what you are saying. Sasuke powere is most likely unstable but he is not weak. This reminds me of zuko on avatar the last air bender. When zuko converted to the good side and decided to teach aang fire bending, he discovered that because his original fuel for fire bending was his hatred he lost the ability to fire bend. He had to find a different source to fuel his fire bending and when he did he was stronger than ever.

This is what sasuke is most likely going through. His original source of power was his hatred. Now that he has gotten rid of his hatred and has returned to his calmer self, he can no longer use his hatred as a source of power. I believe that sasuke power is undergoing a change that is unlike any uchiha before him.

We know that uchihas strongest power comes from love, that is why they can hate so intensly. I believe sasuke will reveal the true power of an uchiha, who feel into darkness and has once again stepped into light.

 

[Fluffyman]

How the Hell would they have known if it was EMS or not. They could have just thought his EMS was MS.

EMS pattern is alot more complex than simple MS.

Both Hashi and Tobirama saw MS and EMS, they could get suspicious.

 

[Wukong]

There are many theories but the other thing is the artists forgot to add it or maybe it wouldn't fit into the design. But then again I could be wrong, but there is no evidence saying there couldn't be a switch.

 

[Sephiron]

no it was never stated in the manga that sasuke can only use blaze release with just amat and his ms? Its stated that its a KKG Aka Advanced chakra nature, just like how hashirama has wood release duh dude as hashirama needs earth and water to use. sauske can use blaze release with fire and unknown element

I understand your point.. Kishi should elaborate on day

Because it's stated that his Right Eye (I think) controls Amaterasu; AKA Blaze Release. Being able to manipulate the black flames.. but that's another topic for another day..

 

[tristan]

blaze release isnt a ms abillity, its a KKG advanced chakra nature.

WTF? when did sasuke get an advanced chakra nature? LOL...

to explain it better blaze release is an amaterasu shape manipulation technique....sasuke is already good at changing form of a chakra nature
(thanks to orochimaru) his raikiri can be made like a sword, like an electric flow to the ground, etc.

It applies the same concept with amaterasu...that's why it regarded him better than itachi since he can manipulate the shape of his chakra...

 

[Sephiron]

There are many theories but the other thing is the artists forgot to add it or maybe it wouldn't fit into the design. But then again I could be wrong, but there is no evidence saying there couldn't be a switch.

True.. I know that the reason Kishi stopped using Sasuke's black one-piece during the Chuunin Exams in part1 was because it was too difficult to draw on a regular basis. And there have been slip-ups in the past.. including Kakashi's sharingan being color switched and other things

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

He still has his ems and just because his feelings have changed doesn't mean he is weak.
It just means his power is motivated by other feelings then hatred.

 

[Prime Rib]

WTF? when did sasuke get an advanced chakra nature? LOL...

long time ago during the 5 kage summit. his is blaze release.

 

[roncato]

" one is the strongest when he has to protect something " .
This is the theme of manga, and obviously sasuke wants to protect konoha, so he is now stronger than his previous versions.

don't make such stupid thread.

Agreed, it's not even possible that he became weaker.

 

[Avonomemi]

I like your response alot better than the other repsonses cause it makes sense..

OT: If this was the case then why not shelter Sasuke in love like a good big brother? Instead of preaching Hatred (which can account for all of sasuke's power up until this point

Itachi most likely knew everything that the Second talked about, if not more regarding the Uchiha power struggle. If he felt love was stronger, he should've helped his brother.. however Itachi felt that he was helping his brother by shoving hatred down his throat because he wanted the sole survivor to be the strongest.

Tx <3
My defence on ur point is "love doesn't have the balls to get things done like hatred does"
Itachi love didn't allow him take sasuke's eyes even when he knew his complete blindness was at hand, also there was d coup by uchiha if he had stayed, sasuke could have being lost in the war that would have arose.

Something I forgot if itachi had hatred in his heart why did he create a backup plan in naruto incase sasuke didn't turn good.
From my deduction, itachi was experimenting with sasuke to show that hatred doesn't own a sharingan user

 

[Sephiron]

I agree somewhat with what you are saying. Sasuke powere is most likely unstable but he is not weak. This reminds me of zuko on avatar the last air bender. When zuko converted to the good side and decided to teach aang fire bending, he discovered that because his original fuel for fire bending was his hatred he lost the ability to fire bend. He had to find a different source to fuel his fire bending and when he did he was stronger than ever.

This is what sasuke is most likely going through. His original source of power was his hatred. Now that he has gotten rid of his hatred and has returned to his calmer self, he can no longer use his hatred as a source of power. I believe that sasuke power is undergoing a change that is unlike any uchiha before him.

We know that uchihas strongest power comes from love, that is why they can hate so intensly. I believe sasuke will reveal the true power of an uchiha, who feel into darkness and has once again stepped into light.

Definitely .. Zuko is a perfect example.. and could somewhat mirror this Sasuke situation (if this happens to be the case)

 

[Sephiron]

He still has his ems and just because his feelings have changed doesn't mean he is weak.
It just means his power is motivated by other feelings then hatred.

Less Hatred = Less Power RIGHT?
In Sasuke's Case anyway

 

[tristan]

long time ago during the 5 kage summit. his is blaze release.

Again I will re-explain it to make you understand things better:

blaze release is an amaterasu shape manipulation technique....sasuke is already good at changing form of a chakra nature
(thanks to orochimaru's training) his raikiri can be made like a sword, like an electric flow to the ground, etc.

It applies the same concept with amaterasu...that's why it regarded him better than itachi since he can manipulate the shape of his chakra...there is no such thing as fire + another element to become amaterasu (black flames), simply no...

the right answer is...SHAPE MANIPULATION...that's it...

 

[GenKiDama]

interesting idea but no, Doesn't make any sense for that to be the case he likely can just activate/deactivate at will

 

[Shinobi Jones]

Sasuke hasn't really even had a reason to show or use his EMS since the Kabul fight, so what are you even talking about ? You just pull this theory out your ass ? No offense (Really)

 

[Sephiron]

Sasuke hasn't really even had a reason to show or use his EMS since the Kabul fight, so what are you even talking about ? You just pull this theory out your ass ? No offense (Really)

I didn't know that EMS was switchable at will.. definitely wasn't clearly stated in the manga. Even when Madara was re-spawned as an Edo.. I believe he started with his EMS and only switch back and forth to Rinnegan.

Unless you have proof... your counter is flawed

 

[Shinobi Jones]

I didn't know that EMS was switchable at will.. definitely wasn't clearly stated in the manga. Even when Madara was re-spawned as an Edo.. I believe he started with his EMS and only switch back and forth to Rinnegan

Yeah I'm not sure either, I just assumed he could so I see where you could be coming from. I'm gonna go ahead and keep assuming so...I don't think Kishi would make him weaker in a moment like this, if so I'd feel kinda trolled haha

 

[Sephiron]

Yeah I'm not sure either, I just assumed he could so I see where you could be coming from. I'm gonna go ahead and keep assuming so...I don't think Kishi would make him weaker in a moment like this, if so I'd feel kinda trolled haha

I feel ya man.. it's a serious time in the manga now but I'm sure Kishi wouldn't troll us now of all times.. It was just a theory =D