[Discussion] Sasuke VS. Naruto: The Battle for the Title of Hokage

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Okay so, lots of people are really, REALLY, upset that Sasuke turned good and now they're pissed that Sasuke wants to become Hokage. Some even say it ruined the "final fight between the two", and that Sasuke wanting to become Hokage is stupid. I'm here toprove just how WELL this idea fits into the Narutoverse :cool:

So we know why Naruto wants to become Hokage. We learned it from the very first episode. He wants to become recognized as a great person, shinobi, etc. Sasuke came into this chapter declaring he wanted to become Hokage and people went apeshit. Why? Because he doesn't know what it means to become a Hokage? Well in that case, NEITHER DID NARUTO UNTIL NOW!!

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Naruto, as said before, and he even states it, that he wanted to become Hokage so that everyone acknowledges him. Sasuke just said that he wanted to become Hokage so that he could SAVE AND CHANGE THE VILLAGE

Sasuke was the one who met with "The Men Who Know Everything"

Sasuke has learned what the true meaning of being a Hokage is, recently might I add. The Hokages of Konohagakure said themselves that they failed as leaders. They did not do their job. Hashirama explained his story and what they all meant when he told Sasuke about the Madara, Hashirama, and Hokage deal. Sasuke learned that they failed to protect the village from hatred and anger. The Uchiha's isolation and it's massacre.

Sasuke says that he promises to save the village. From what? From hatred and anger. He promises to change it all. That's what Itachi meant when he said that becoming Hokage means you're acknowledgeed by everyone, not getting acknowledged AFTER you're Hokage. Naruto never knew that, BUT STILL WANTED PEACE SO IN A SENSE HE HAD 90% OF THE IDEA RIGHT. This is also why Naruto gets Itachi's words flashed back into his head AFTER Sasuke says he wants to save the village and change it. He now knows, just like Sasuke, what it truly means to be the Hokage and that's why he said he'll become the Hokage. I don't know why so many Naruto fans did not pick this up. It's actually really well thought out. It's ****ing amazing how Kishi did this.

That big final fight that so many people think is lost? It's not. It's even bigger than before. Naruto VS. Sasuke is the battle for Hokage. A REAL final fight. They're going to fight for the title. This is the final fight everyone is looking for, and it's going to be amazing!

Before I contridicte myself, I want to add:

Naruto is already acknowledged by everyone. The Pain battle. The War.
Sasuke is already acknowledged by everyone. His strength. His change of heart. Whether it's bad acknowledgment or not. If Hashirama accepts Sasuke, I'm damn sure the rest of them will too.

I don't mean to say Naruto is not Hokage material, not at all. I don't mean to say Sasuke is better Hokage material. I mean to say that they are the only two, from their young generations, as Asuma said, "The Kings", that know what it truly means to become Hokage and it adds so much more depth and epicness to this story. We may even get a longer series now that shows their continuation down the road to Hokage.
 

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sasuke will become hokage because if he dnt then ,there will be another cycle of revenge
 

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If there is a battle, it better be one to the death. Obviously Sasuke will end up eating a Rasengan
 

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Sasuke will be hokage sure. But before that happens then Naruto should defiantly become next Sage of Six Paths. Naruto should become sencond Jinchuuriki of Juubi and obtain Rinnegan as well.

After all if Sasuke becomes Hokage it just make it sounds more likely that he will be the child of prophecy since he have the chance to obtain peace.

So Naruto will be the second savior of Narutoverse so I hope that he defiantly seal Juubi then.
 

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Sasuke will be Hokage. Naruto will realize that Sasuke needs to be Hokage more than he needs to be hokage. Also naruto already has the whole ninja alliance behind him and they all acknowledge him like he wanted to. Plus whats a Hokage got on the future SO6P?
 

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sasuke will become hokage because if he dnt then ,there will be another cycle of revenge

Not really, naruto would obviously be a great hokage and would let the uchihas have their right. Also if sasuke goes insane again just because he didn't become hokage then that would be lame IMO
 

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Better not do a Danzo to get the title for if H e dose,He be stop by Naruto.
 

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Sasuke will be Hokage. Naruto will realize that Sasuke needs to be Hokage more than he needs to be hokage. Also naruto already has the whole ninja alliance behind him and they all acknowledge him like he wanted to. Plus whats a Hokage got on the future SO6P?

That's what I'm thinking. Although I would like Naruto to become Hokage, I think it'd be even cooler if he becomes something like the Sage of Six Paths and just does epic shit here and there.
 

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This thread is pretty much a collection of comments people have already said in other threads but.....

They aren't going to fight for the title of Hokage.

If you read the chapter carefully, Sasuke has the wrong idea about what a Hokage is. He thinks if he becomes Hokage, people will acknowledge him and listen to him.

Naruto knows better because Itachi told him that it's the other way around, that everyone acknowledges the person that will become Hokage.

So when they fight, it wont be for the title of Hokage. Sasuke will be fighting to prove that it is his power that will make everyone acknowledge him and accept him as Hokage. But Naruto will most likely win, and he'll contribute his superiority in strength to the fact that all of his friends acknowledged him first, thus making him the better Hokage candidate. So Sasuke will get his life lesson, and Naruto will fulfill the promise he made to Itachi to set Sasuke straight once and for all. In other words they wont be fighting to see who will become Hokage, they'll be fighting to see who's idea of what a Hokage is is correct
 

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Sasuke is not exactly Hokage material, the Hokage is chosen by the village, and I doubt they would choose the guy who once wanted to kill them all.

But I do think the final fight will be over the title of Hokage.

Basically what the post above this one said.
 

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This thread is pretty much a collection of comments people have already said in other threads but.....

They aren't going to fight for the title of Hokage.

If you read the chapter carefully, Sasuke has the wrong idea about what a Hokage is. He thinks if he becomes Hokage, people will acknowledge him and listen to him.

Naruto knows better because Itachi told him that it's the other way around, that everyone acknowledges the person that will become Hokage.

So when they fight, it wont be for the title of Hokage. Sasuke will be fighting to prove that it is his power that will make everyone acknowledge him and accept him as Hokage. But Naruto will most likely win, and he'll contribute his superiority in strength to the fact that all of his friends acknowledged him first, thus making him the better Hokage candidate. So Sasuke will get his life lesson, and Naruto will fulfill the promise he made to Itachi to set Sasuke straight once and for all. In other words they wont be fighting to see who will become Hokage, they'll be fighting to see who's idea of what a Hokage is is correct

You're one of the people who didn't understand the past 10 chapters. The "Fight" I mentioned is not a real fight. It's a fight in the name of getting the title first. Not actual hand to hand, jutsu to jutsu. If anyone needs to re-read the past chapters, it's you bro. You obviously didn't pick up what was happening lately. Sasuke never said he wanted people to listen to him. He clearly said "I don't really care what you all think of me." That sounds like he doesn't give a **** about whether they listen to him or not. He just plans on saving Konoha.
 
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Sasuke is not exactly Hokage material, the Hokage is chosen by the village, and I doubt they would choose the guy who once wanted to kill them all.

But I do think the final fight will be over the title of Hokage.

Basically what the post above this one said.

I beg to differ. They beat Naruto and treated him like absolute shit, but look at him now. He's loved by the entire village. Who's to say Sasuke won't do something that'll change their minds right now? Take a massive hit from the Juubi protecting the Alliance for example. Re-Read and re-read again
 

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You're one of the people who didn't understand the past 10 chapters. The "Fight" I mentioned is not a real fight. It's a fight in the name of getting the title first. Not actual hand to hand, jutsu to jutsu. If anyone needs to re-read the past chapters, it's you bro. You obviously didn't pick up what was happening lately. Sasuke never said he wanted people to listen to him. He clearly said "I don't really care what you all think of me." That sounds like he doesn't give a **** about whether they listen to him or not.

Which according to Itachi, means he will never be Hokage, the village choses he leader, if he doesn't want to listen to the village then why should they follow him?

And there is a huge difference between Naruto's former situation and Sasuke situation, Naruto never actually commited any crimes.

Sasuke is guilty of treason and murder, they actually have a legitimate reason to treat Sasuke like shit.

He wanted to kill them all, Naruto never hurt anyone or betray the village.
 

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You're one of the people who didn't understand the past 10 chapters. The "Fight" I mentioned is not a real fight. It's a fight in the name of getting the title first. Not actual hand to hand, jutsu to jutsu. If anyone needs to re-read the past chapters, it's you bro. You obviously didn't pick up what was happening lately. Sasuke never said he wanted people to listen to him. He clearly said "I don't really care what you all think of me." That sounds like he doesn't give a **** about whether they listen to him or not.

I'll take this slow.....

Sasuke says he wants to become Hokage

Sasuke says he doesn't care what others think about him

Naruto has a flashback of Itachi talking

"Itachi's word: "It is not the Hokage who is acknowledged by everyone, but everyone acknowledges the one who will become Hokage....I leave Sasuke to you"

Naruto then tells everyone "leave Sasuke to me"

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If that's not an obvious sign that Naruto still has to teach Sasuke about the true meaning of being a Hokage and the bonds of friendship (a clear theme throughout the manga), then I don't know what is. Also, remember Naruto said himself that the only way they understand one another is through their fists. So hmmmm, I wonder how else Naruto is going to teach him this lesson other than a fight if they only understand one another through fighting? I think my understanding the manga concept is pretty clear bud

Which according to Itachi, means he will never be Hokage, the village choses he leader, if he doesn't want to listen to the village then why should they follow him?

And there is a huge difference between Naruto's former situation and Sasuke situation, Naruto never actually commited any crimes.

Sasuke is guilty of treason and murder, they actually have a legitimate reason to treat Sasuke like shit.

He wanted to kill them all, Naruto never hurt anyone or betray the village.

Basically this. The simple fact that Sasuke wants to become Hokage but doesn't care about the opinion of his peers completely contradicts his owns brothers view of how to become Hokage. Meaning that Sasuke still has something to learn, and wont become Hokage until he learns that lesson, and the only one who can teach him that is Naruto
 
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I'll take this slow.....

Sasuke says he wants to become Hokage

Sasuke says he doesn't care what others think about him

Naruto has a flashback of Itachi talking

"Itachi's word: "It is not the Hokage who is acknowledged by everyone, but everyone acknowledges the one who will become Hokage....I leave Sasuke to you"

Naruto then tells everyone "leave Sasuke to me"

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If that's not an obvious sign that Naruto still has to teach Sasuke about the true meaning of being a Hokage and the bonds of friendship (a clear theme throughout the manga), then I don't know what is. Also, remember Naruto said himself that the only way they understand one another is through their fists. So hmmmm, I wonder how else Naruto is going to teach him this lesson other than a fight if they only understand one another through fighting? I think my understanding the manga concept is pretty clear bud

I'll beg to differ, but I know you think you're right, so I'll just let go. Believe what you want. The beauty of opinions. Some agree, some don't, and some are just too blind.

P.S I explained how Sasuke is already acknowledged:leaf:
 

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I'll beg to differ, but I know you think you're right, so I'll just let go. Believe what you want. The beauty of opinions. Some agree, some don't, and some are just too blind.

Time will reveal which is blind my friend. In the mean time, pay close attention to the manga

**Edit** I saw your ps. You do realize that everyone told Sasuke theirs no way he'll become Hokage, meaning that they don't acknowledge him as a Hokage candidate. First you say he's already been acknowledged. Then you go on to say if Hashirama accepts him, the others will. Clear contradiction. How can he already be acknowledged by everyone, but everyone still has to acknowledge him? smh
 
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Sasuke will become Hokage, Naruto will become leader of the Shinobi Alliance. Remember Naruto wants to surpass every Hokage that came before him, what better way than to let him become the leader of the alliance?
 

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Which according to Itachi, means he will never be Hokage, the village choses he leader, if he doesn't want to listen to the village then why should they follow him?

And there is a huge difference between Naruto's former situation and Sasuke situation, Naruto never actually commited any crimes.

Sasuke is guilty of treason and murder, they actually have a legitimate reason to treat Sasuke like shit.

He wanted to kill them all, Naruto never hurt anyone or betray the village.

I explained how Sasuke already has acknowledgment. Also, I'm sure that if the past Hokages are okay and acknowledge Sasuke then they will too. Unless they're as close-minded as you of course, who is completely thwarting my answers to your argument points away like they don't answer your points...which they already do.... :leaf:
 

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Time will reveal which is blind my friend. In the mean time, pay close attention to the manga

Will do! In the meantime, you should re-read and maybe take up observation classes :cool:
 
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