Misconception: Minato is NOT in KCM

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Hes not in the same BM as Naruto.. Naruto has kurama..... Minato has Kurama's chakra. Big difference.

And also, no he is still below EMS Madara lol.
 

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Hes not in the same BM as Naruto.. Naruto has kurama..... Minato has Kurama's chakra. Big difference.

And also, no he is still below EMS Madara lol.

Don't get ridiculous.

Minato's only weakness was his lack of power.


Now he has the TBB, giving him more than enough to destroy him.
 

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The chest area are invesred of each other (with only the Torii Seal Key making a difference)

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Naruto's chest is completely different in BM, and only the collar matches (something that KCM and BM both share), and the hand markings
 
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Don't get ridiculous.

Minato's only weakness was his lack of power.


Now he has the TBB, giving him more than enough to destroy him.

You dont get ridiculous

Naruto with kurama's chakra was not able to perform a tbb, it wasnt until kurama gave naruto a hand that he was able to use it.

Minato just has kurama's chakra therefore he cant use a tbb without kurama's help either. He doesnt have kurama
 

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Don't get ridiculous.

Minato's only weakness was his lack of power.


Now he has the TBB, giving him more than enough to destroy him.
Nah, he doesn't have BD. You need a Bijuu to use BD
 
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Thats all it does.



So what? Naruto couldnt even touch obito with kamui. Minato is fast, but not untouchable...



Well in a top 10 list you dont put a character there because of what he could do. You put him there for what he has done. Minato has done nothing, assuming that he has more jutsu is speculation.



Do you not remember the huge ass training arc naruto had to go through in order to perfect a tbb? Saying minato can use it without the proper training is also speculation.

Nothing changes his position from 9th...

Your forget that Minato developed the Rasengan by studying the Bijuu-Dama, thus he already spent years mastering the basis of performing one, do you really believe a genius of his caliber could not perform some form of a Bijuu-Dama now that he has the power to do so?shodaimeicon:
 

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You dont get ridiculous

Naruto with kurama's chakra was not able to perform a tbb, it wasnt until kurama gave naruto a hand that he was able to use it.

Minato just has kurama's chakra therefore he cant use a tbb without kurama's help either. He doesnt have kurama

Naruto performs tbb, by himself in both kcm and bm. It just took him a while to get the ratio correct.
 

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Naruto performs tbb, by himself in both kcm and bm. It just took him a while to get the ratio correct.

Yes but when has minato ever had time to get the ratio correct?

He only completed the tbb once he had the help from kurama & BM
 
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BM or KCM Minato was op before and he just became even more op. How is that even possible.
 

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Naruto performs tbb, by himself in both kcm and bm. It just took him a while to get the ratio correct.

I don't recall this, I thought he wasn't able to maintain BD while in KM?
Can I get a link?
 

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Yes but when has minato ever had time to get the ratio correct?

He only completed the tbb once he had the help from kurama & BM

Minato's a genius whilst Naruto is not, he's going to get the ratio a lot quicker than Naruto.

I don't recall this, I thought he wasn't able to maintain BD while in KM?
Can I get a link?

He's done a mini tbb in kcm and got the ratio. If he put more chakra into it, it'll become like the full tbb. If he can make a mini version a large version wouldn't be a problem, is my reasoning.
 

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Minato is in a MIX because he does not possess a tailed beast through which both beings act as the controller of the same body and chakra that has been melded, therefore it is NOT BM, but because of certain marking on his clothes in this mode (connecting hand/feet markings, magatama on collar) it is clearly an ASCENDED version of KM.

This happened because unlike Naruto, Minato had direct access to the chakra and was able to meld it into his own chakra, but he doesn't have the actual tailed beast that influences the other changes on the outside of the body.
 

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The difference between KCM and BM is that in BM, the jink and bijuu must old their chakra together. Minato has only access to the chakra same as when Naruto only had KCM form because kyuubi hasn't cooperated yet.
 

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Minato's a genius whilst Naruto is not, he's going to get the ratio a lot quicker than Naruto.

Well naruto was able to complete the jutsu that minato never could. If anybody had the potential to use a tbb while in KM then its naruto. Im not saying that minato cant do it, im just saying that it shouldnt logically be that much quicker.


Also dont forget, the tbb is heavy too, it makes a quick character like minato a sitting duck especially if he's never done it before.
 

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Minato performed BM the second he got into battle, that took Naruto a lifetime.

How can he not use the TBB?
 

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