Misconception: Minato is NOT in KCM

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I've been seeing "KCM" Minato being throwing around.


And that isn't true.


Minato is in BM.



Minato possesses distinct markings on his hand.




KCM Naruto doesn't possess the markings.



BM Naruto does possess the markings.




Minato is now top tier, probably above EMS Madara at this point. :)
 

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It makes me mad how Kishi made Naruto work so hard and go through so much just to gain BM and BAM! Minato gets it like that instead giving that chakra to his son. Minato is edo he wouldn't need the extra chakra.
 

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It makes me mad how Kishi made Naruto work so hard and go through so much just to gain BM and BAM! Minato gets it like that instead giving that chakra to his son. Minato is edo he wouldn't need the extra chakra.
It doesn't just make his chakra "larger". It makes his speed untouchable, it gives him Bijuu dama, and it gives him extra strength in his jutsu.


Minato is much stronger at this point.
 

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It doesn't just make his chakra "larger".
Yes it does, it increases his chakra capacity

It makes his speed untouchable,
Obito still kept up with naruto in BM, he's not "untouchable"....

it gives him Bijuu dama,
No it doesnt, naruto had to train in order to perfect his tbb, minato isnt just going to asspull one out unless he wants to ruin that entire training arc with bee/naruto.

and it gives him extra strength in his jutsu.
& what jutsu are those exactly? He needs tha chakra arms to perform any variants. He hasnt learned how to control BM, therefore he can only use it for its speed & chakra as far as we know...

Minato is much stronger at this point.
No he is not. He is an edo with more chakra, thats it. He has shown/done nothing that warrants a change in his position. He's still 9th.
 

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So Minato is going to use Kurama cloak without Kurama? Not happening. You need the real beast to go Bijuu Mode and that is still sealed inside of Naruto. KCM was obtained the same way Minato obtained this new cloak. By ripping out the Kyuubi's chakra and absorbing it into himself.

Even if his cloak is the same as BM Naruto's before he uses the Kurama cloak. Doesn't mean he can use the Kurama cloak like Naruto can, as one has the Bijuu inside of him while the other just has chakra inside of him.

Minato doesn't have Kurama cloak. Only the BM Human cloak.

Naruto gets Kurama's chakra, can't use BM yet. Minato gets it but he can? Nope.
 
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Obito still kept up with naruto in BM, he's not "untouchable"....
Maybe not untouchable, But pretty damn close.

Minato's base speed far exceeds naruto's, Then you add the kyuubi's speed boost on top of them. His speed would be even greater then Naruto's.

5 Speed + Kyuubi chakra > 3.5 speed + kyuubi.

Unless naruto's Bm form gives more of a speed boost.
 

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Yes it does, it increases his chakra capacity



Obito still kept up with naruto in BM, he's not "untouchable"....



No it doesnt, naruto had to train in order to perfect his tbb, minato isnt just going to asspull one out unless he wants to ruin that entire training arc with bee/naruto.



& what jutsu are those exactly? He needs tha chakra arms to perform any variants. He hasnt learned how to control BM, therefore he can only use it for its speed & chakra as far as we know...



No he is not. He is an edo with more chakra, thats it. He has shown/done nothing that warrants a change in his position. He's still 9th.
I clearly said it made his chakra larger.

Obito kept up with Naruto who didn't have FTG to teleport around while his foot speed is unmatched.

We haven't seen all of Minato's jutsu. Absent evidence isn't evidence of it absent.

Minato just pulled BM out of nowhere? TBB is hard to believe?
 

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I clearly said it made his chakra larger.
Thats all it does.

Obito kept up with Naruto who didn't have FTG to teleport around while his foot speed is unmatched.
So what? Naruto couldnt even touch obito with kamui. Minato is fast, but not untouchable...

We haven't seen all of Minato's jutsu. Absent evidence isn't evidence of it absent.
Well in a top 10 list you dont put a character there because of what he could do. You put him there for what he has done. Minato has done nothing, assuming that he has more jutsu is speculation.

Minato just pulled BM out of nowhere? TBB is hard to believe?
Do you not remember the huge ass training arc naruto had to go through in order to perfect a tbb? Saying minato can use it without the proper training is also speculation.

Nothing changes his position from 9th...
 
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