[Spoilers] Only kyuubi mode stage 1

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Hello everyone.

So, I just finished reading chapter 631.

And when Minato entered Kyuubi mode, I was actually in some way disapointed - since it took Naruto so long.
But then I noticed something - That Minato is "only" in stage 1 (even though that's still quite a feat!).

And my theory is that the chakra part inside him doesn't have "the mind of Kurama"!
If we presume this, it actually makes quite sense. Since he would then have full access to the chakra, without Kurama trying to steal his in return.

I've provided some pictures where you can see the differents in stage 1 and stage 2.

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So while it does look quite alot like Naruto's Stage 2 mode, you can tell by the markings that it is, in fact "only" stage 1 :)

But damn.. They sure do look alike!
 

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Minato is stage two lol JUST LOOK AT HIS HANDS... MINATO WAS ABLE TO TRANSFORM INTO BM WHILE USING HIS ORIGINAL 8 TRIGRAM SEAL!!!! REMEMBER THAT NARUTO SWITCHED TO THE TORI SEAL AND THATS WHY THEY LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT!!!!
 

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You are right!
:)

It's because of his clothing
its the hokage cloak
I agree - the cloak makes it look quite alot like stage 2!

it's BM

look at the hand markings
Well, it's right there's the markings on the hand - but all the other parts of the body is clearly covered in "stage 1".
One of the main differences in the two stages (when it comes to apperence), is the large black part on the chest, and the lack of the spiral on the chest aswell.

My guess is that it's either a drawing mistake from Kishimoto, or that it's because the stages doens't exately look the same for everyone who use it.
 

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Minato is stage two lol JUST LOOK AT HIS HANDS... MINATO WAS ABLE TO TRANSFORM INTO BM WHILE USING HIS ORIGINAL 8 TRIGRAM SEAL!!!! REMEMBER THAT NARUTO SWITCHED TO THE TORI SEAL AND THATS WHY THEY LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT!!!!
Damn - Thats one huge font in all caps!
But it wasn't when he changed seal he unlocked stage two - in fact he only unlocked stage one when he changed seals.
It was when he completely unsealed Kurama he unlocked stage two, since Kurama was then able - and willing to give him alot more chakra


Exactly, his cloak is used by Kishi to confuse us.

This is like KCM Minato + Cloak-> Bijuu mode Naruto's appearance

Minato can't have Bijuu mode, unless Kishi is trying to say that two Kuramas are exisiting...
I totaly agree! The second stage is due to Kurama willingly giving up his chakra - and even producing extra when needed.
 

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it's BM

look at the hand markings
Wrong,

Here you have Naruto in KCM with marking on his arms and most likely on his hands as well(not visible, because outside part of his hands is directed to ground)
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Minato is stage two lol JUST LOOK AT HIS HANDS... MINATO WAS ABLE TO TRANSFORM INTO BM WHILE USING HIS ORIGINAL 8 TRIGRAM SEAL!!!! REMEMBER THAT NARUTO SWITCHED TO THE TORI SEAL AND THATS WHY THEY LOOK A LITTLE DIFFERENT!!!!
No, just no

Here you have Naruto in KCM with marking on his arms and most likely on his hands as well(not visible, because outside part of his hands is directed to ground)
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But I agree with part about different seals Naruto and Minato have now.

But still for Minato have Bijuu mode, TWO KURAMA HAVE TO EXIST :devil:, which would be stupid...

KCM Minato would be fair..., as he has other half of Kurama chakra
 
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Wrong,

Here you have Naruto in KCM with marking on his arms and most likely on his hands as well(not visible, because outside part of his hands is directed to ground)
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No, just no

Here you have Naruto in KCM with marking on his arms and most likely on his hands as well(not visible, because outside part of his hands is directed to ground)
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But I agree with part about different seals Naruto and Minato have now.

But still for Minato have Bijuu mode, TWO KURAMA HAVE TO EXIST :devil:, which would be stupid...

KCM Minato would be fair..., as he has other half of Kurama chakra
Oh, great find :) So it looks like it's an error in the picture i used of stage 1, or an drawing error from Kishimoto :)
 

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You right rep rep rep because i know everbody like is it two kurumas. Its badically the same as naruto taking the chakra via tug of war.
Aye - Exately! And even though Kurama is "a malevolent mass of chakra", i doubt he can have two "minds".
So I agree - It's like when Naruto played tug of war with kurama - where Minato can now draw a bit of Kuramas yin chakra at a time.
 

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What bothers me the most is that he doesn't look like Minato at all. He looks identical to Naruto the character himself. =/
Sadly I agree - At first I was sure it was Naruto, but when he started talking, and ofcause using the kunais to mark the places, I figured it had to be Minato. But perhaps Kishi is just a bit to used to draw Naruto in that form? And since there's quite alot of white colors in that form it might be a bit difficult to draw face characteristics
 

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Oh, great find :) So it looks like it's an error in the picture i used of stage 1, or an drawing error from Kishimoto :)
thanks a lot :), I am glad I helped :)

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ABOUT Black markings on Minato's hand

Naruto in Bijuu mode has black marking on inside part of his hand(red circle around his hand) and Until know nowhere Minato shown to have same black marking on inside part of his hand.

ABOUT Minato's cloak looking exactly like Naruto's in Bijuu mode

Naruto's chakra cloak in Bijuu mode has holes in it(red circle marked by me)
Besides Naruto's Bijuu mode cloak has irregular shapes, as it's end are random length in different place.

While Minato's cloak:

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Look's especially at red line following Minato's cloak shape, we can see that his cloak has regular shape and seems to be straightforward

ABOUT Minato's marking on his legs

As I marked in first picture, Naruto's feets have black marks as well as his legs, while in Minato's case:

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Here, we see that Minato's chakra cloak lacks black marking at end of his legs(bottom part) and completly lack of black markings on his feet.

Extra !, I noticedd just that Minato doesn't have black markings on his arms as well, where BM Naruto:

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Have them simply. Besides at this picture Naruto's chakra cloak is even better shown to be completly different then Minato's

I hope that help explain why Minato is in KCM and not IN BM

Thanks for reading =D
 
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thanks a lot :), I am glad I helped :)

Besides:

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ABOUT Black markings on Minato's hand

Naruto in Bijuu mode has black marking on inside part of his hand(red circle around his hand) and Until know nowhere Minato shown to have same black marking on inside part of his hand.

ABOUT Minato's cloak looking exactly like Naruto's in Bijuu mode

Naruto's chakra cloak in Bijuu mode has holes in it(red circle marked by me)
Besides Naruto's Bijuu mode cloak has irregular shapes, as it's end are random length in different place.

While Minato's cloak:

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Look's especially at red line following Minato's cloak shape, we can see that his cloak has regular shape and seems to be straightforward

ABOUT Minato's marking on his legs

As I marked in first picture, Naruto's feets have black marks as well as his legs, while in Minato's case:

You must be registered for see images

Here, we see that Minato's chakra cloak lacks black marking at end of his legs(bottom part) and completly lack of black markings on his feet.

Extra !, I noticedd just that Minato doesn't have black markings on his arms as well, where BM Naruto:

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Have them simply. Besides at this picture Naruto's chakra cloak is even better shown to be completly different then Minato's

I hope that help explain why Minato is in KCM and not IN BM

Thanks for reading =D

Kudos my good sir!
As we know, Kishi does make mistakes sometimes - and this just further proves that we're right :) rep
 
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