Why Sakura's speech in Chapter 630 can be considered one of the most impactful.

[SasoriOfTheRedSaand]

Yes, Sakura did plenty of useful things. Hinata also did plenty of useful things. They just had their own methods. But I guess accepting that both characters are useful is out of the question to you :|



The Red Herring fallacy is the act of bringing up a separate topic meant to distract the debating opponent from seeing the topic come under fire. I like to call it "Red Squirrel" from the dog in Up, myself Lol

Now, when did I say she never done any useful things? Oh, has your mind deceived you? I'm saying her character is shit, and her time on screen was mostly fapping to Naruto.

 

[Itachi75]

sakura gave a speech to two fodders telling them that naruto considers them their comrades, and that they both need to fight to death while she heals naruto.
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and this speech is greater than the one that Shikiku gave to choji giving them the intel to change the battle? or the speech hinata delivered stopping Naruto from turning into Darth Naruto? becuase surely convincing two unnamed fodders is supirior than changing the flow of the entire war.
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i will agree that her speech was good but to say that her speech is more important then the above is rude and disrespectful.

 

[Itachi75]

very nice work though

 

[SilverfoxUchiha]

Tell me one thing... Where in the manga have you seen Hinata healing?

Hinata was shown to use the Mystic Palm technique to heal the wounded citizens of the Hacho Village in one of the episodes of the Anime a while back. Whether or not it was filler does not matter because she was still shown to use that ability which makes sense seeing as she Mystic Palm actually compliments Gentle Fist and Byakugan.

Check the Wiki Link below (Hinatas Wikipedia profile) and click on 'Abilities' and you will see a pic of Hinata using the medical Jutsu as well as a description of the scenario:

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Yes Hinata does know Medical Jutsu (Mystic Palm).

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Here Hinata fixing Naruto's dislocated shoulder

while Sakura is still being the useless she already is

That is not healing ninjutsu; that is Hinata's Jyuken shooting chakra into Naruto's shoulder to pop it back into place. It would be medical ninjutsu if Naruto's cells would have regenerated or undergone a faster rate of mitosis.

sakura gave a speech to two fodders telling them that naruto considers them their comrades, and that they both need to fight to death while she heals naruto.
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and this speech is greater than the one that Shikiku gave to choji giving them the intel to change the battle? or the speech hinata delivered stopping Naruto from turning into Darth Naruto? becuase surely convincing two unnamed fodders is supirior than changing the flow of the entire war.
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i will agree that her speech was good but to say that her speech is more important then the above is rude and disrespectful.

Notice how the thread says "one of the most impactful". Chatte isn't praising this speech as the cream-of-the-crop, just one out of a handful of good speeches given in Naruto.

 

[CHE nen]

That is not healing ninjutsu; that is Hinata's Jyuken shooting chakra into Naruto's shoulder to pop it back into place. It would be medical ninjutsu if Naruto's cells would have regenerated or undergone a faster rate of mitosis.

isn't Sakura's job to heal injuries?
Naruto clearly has a shoulder injury there

and where is she?

of course, being the epitome of uselessness she already is

 

[The Necromancer]

Hinata was shown to use the Mystic Palm technique to heal the wounded citizens of the Hacho Village in one of the filler episodes of the Anime a while back. Whether or not it was filler does not matter because she was still shown to use that ability which makes aense seeing as she Mystic Palm actually complimented Gentle Fist and Byakugan.

Check the Wiki Link below (Hinatas Wikipedia profile) and click on 'Abilities' and you will see a pic of Hinata using the medical Jutsu as well as a description of the scenario:

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Yes Hinata does know Medical Jutsu (Mystic Palm).

Filler has never counted toward jutsu arsenal. If it did, then Kiba would be stronger than a Susano'o enhanced 100% kurama TBB, seeing as how hashi's rashoumon gates deflected that, but kiba was able to break through 3 by himself.

 

[BlueStarSaber]

sakura gave a speech to two fodders telling them that naruto considers them their comrades, and that they both need to fight to death while she heals naruto.
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and this speech is greater than the one that Shikiku gave to choji giving them the intel to change the battle? or the speech hinata delivered stopping Naruto from turning into Darth Naruto? becuase surely convincing two unnamed fodders is supirior than changing the flow of the entire war.
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i will agree that her speech was good but to say that her speech is more important then the above is rude and disrespectful.

She never said Sakura's was more important than those speaches, just that that sakura's was an important one.

 

[Joshutsu]

Hinata was shown to use the Mystic Palm technique to heal the wounded citizens of the Hacho Village in one of the episodes of the Anime a while back. Whether or not it was filler does not matter because she was still shown to use that ability which makes sense seeing as she Mystic Palm actually compliments Gentle Fist and Byakugan.

Check the Wiki Link below (Hinatas Wikipedia profile) and click on 'Abilities' and you will see a pic of Hinata using the medical Jutsu as well as a description of the scenario:

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Yes Hinata does know Medical Jutsu (Mystic Palm).

That's anime only, kishi has nothing to do with it. This thread isn't about Hinata why can there not be a proper discussion about Sakura without her in it?

 

[FreakensteinAG]

isn't Sakura's job to heal injuries?
Naruto clearly has a shoulder injury there

and where is she?

of course, being the epitome of uselessness she already is

Sakura was busy tending to other injuries in the manga.

To play it safe, not healing Naruto while Hinata is does not make her useless, nor was she useless in the first place. You would have understood this if you've been paying attention to the OP and the subsequent replies detailing the amount of work she's done.

 

[Joshutsu]

Is this thread even in the right section? Isn't naruto manga for predictions and spoilers only...?

It is for reviews as well, this thread is a review on the chapter and Sakura's speech with a little history to backup the impact of the speech. Shes a moderator, I'm sure she knows her rules.

 

[Valen]

Hail Sakura!
Hooray, hooray, hooray!

 

[BlueStarSaber]

That's anime only, kishi has nothing to do with it. This thread isn't about Hinata why can there not be a proper discussion about Sakura without her in it?

I agree Hinata is Hinata and Sakura is Sakura

 

[Acid Ace]

Good Lord. You really love Sakura. You're the definition of "Hardcore Fan"
Relax, Sakura was, still is, kinda, important. She's an important plot filler.

 

[foxyladyland]

Here Hinata fixing Naruto's dislocated shoulder

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while Sakura is still being the useless she already is

actually I think Sakura didn't heal him at that point, instead of Hinata, because Sakura didn't know his shoulder was hurt.
No one knew before the moment when Hinata used Juuken on him..
Sakura couldn't do it because she couldn't keep up with them since they had Kurama's cloak
and Sakura herself didn't.

 

[The Necromancer]

actually I think Sakura didn't heal him at that point, instead of Hinata, because Sakura didn't know his shoulder was hurt.
No one knew before the moment when Hinata used Juuken on him..
Sakura couldn't do it because she couldn't keep up with them since they had Kurama's cloak
and Sakura herself didn't.

Or the fact that hinata could physically see it, while sakura couldn't because she doesn't have byakugan.

 

[Saikyokami]

Hinata was shown to use the Mystic Palm technique to heal the wounded citizens of the Hacho Village in one of the episodes of the Anime a while back. Whether or not it was filler does not matter because she was still shown to use that ability which makes sense seeing as she Mystic Palm actually compliments Gentle Fist and Byakugan.
That was Filler. Filler isn't cannon and completely contradicts the manga. Fillers are NOT made by Masashi Kishimoto, the creator of NARUTO.
Check the Wiki Link below (Hinatas Wikipedia profile) and click on 'Abilities' and you will see a pic of Hinata using the medical Jutsu as well as a description of the scenario:

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Yes Hinata does know Medical Jutsu (Mystic Palm).

:| She was only seen doing so IN A FILLER. NOT MADE BY the CREATOR OF NARUTO. >_<

Here Hinata fixing Naruto's dislocated shoulder

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while Sakura is still being the useless she already is

First I'm pretty sure she used her gentle fist to simply push his dislocated shoulder back into place.

second.. Reported.. Why are you bashing sakura :| she has done more stuff for the plot than hinata... (I still like hinata more.(the shy thing is cute))

I agree Hinata is Hinata and Sakura is Sakura

The only one who understands. Each indivual character were made by masashi kishimoto with different personalities, be it shy for hinata or more vulgar for sakura. They are both individual characters that shouldn't be compared to eachother. each has their own unique features that makes them stand out.

 

[thegame]

I am not one-sided, I was only speaking about a certain thing. Of course I could've made an essay about the meanings behind Kakashi's talk with Obito as well, but that seems to be on everyone's lips, doesn't it?
What do you define by character potential, if you don't mind me asking?
Just curious.

Potential for further development. I don't know if you read One Piece, but one of the things Oda is extremely good at is creating character potential. He has made so many brilliant characters with extreme potentials for many great future chapters. And many times he brilliantly succeeds with using these potentials in future chapters. An example is Hatchan who once was an enemy, and later shows up, and plays a big role in the story by affecting Luffy and Nami very deeply!

Kishi has created many great character potentials in part 1, but when he was introducing Akatsuki and his entire (but brilliant!) plot, he kinda failed at using these potentials and turning them into something great (the characters created in part 1, that is)!

Surely Sakura had much screen time, but yet it was usually in awkward situations. To me it would have been great, if Kishi had developed Sakura further, after all she was Tsunade's pupil, we could have expected more chapters for her, where she perhaps learned some new jutsu or whatever, and perhaps Tsunade and her would have a serious talk about Sasuke, so we could get Sakura to open up, having her entire character potential widely opened before us. That would have so much benefit for the story, as Kishi later used her feelings towards Sasuke as a big deal in the story, and I am sure it ain't over yet.

I am not trying to defend Sakura, I am showing a part of her role, meaning and such in the manga. Different terms. Mad? Sorry if I disappoint by saying no. It's not like I don't hear this every time. I don't go with the herd, usually, so no, worng again.
It's not an opinion based statement, if it would have been, I wouldn't have had manga panels to do so. It's more of a factual opinion, given how everything in this manga connects. You just have to be observant enought to see.
It seems like you didn't get my point about medical ninjutsu. And it's an opinion based on childish misbehavior, if you ask me, as all-through-out manga can prove wrong to the ones who call her different ways. Useless? She's not. The fact that she doesn't have all this arsenal of flashy jutsus it's more of a matter of personal preferences. But that doesn't make her useless.
As for the hate for Sakura... I wonder how many of you know from where this whole madness started. I bet you don't, because you just went with the flow. But that's another thing.

Nope. Manga "facts" about medical ninjutsu does not make people's opinion about it "false", since there is always something better to compare with. Kishi ended up creating a power difference between staring characters to be way too big, so either you are among them, or you are trash. That is why some would call Sakura "fodder". I mean, her healing can't compare to Naruto's anymore even, given he has Kurama chakra, the key characters just keep being developed, and the bi-characters are left behind, as I said above. Sad IMO.
Well enlighten me, if you are so sure, when that "madness" started? It's not possible for any person to get any detail of the manga after all. Personally I think it came during the chunin exam and the cursed seal on Sasuke. Team 7 truly experienced some hard things there, and got bonded in a different way, although the part, where she wasn't able to "stop" Sasuke (in her own terminology) plays a big role too.

Her speech already did. Encouraged the whole Shinobi Alliance, or at least, the remaining ones, and made them fight. But it isn't about what much it will do, this was about the implications and meanings behind it, which, it seems you didn't get it.
How should we know Naruto knew since nothing like this was shown to us? Plus, it seems you don't know Naruto's character that much... But, I'd rather not get into it.

Lol, you are quite offensive. Hope I didn't offend you, that was not the point of my reply. However, the implications of her speech was quite obvious.. And you did put much detail in describing it, though you might overanalyzing a bit in some cases, but that is just my opinion, so nvm that.
Naruto knew, first of all due to the way he replied to Minato.
Second of all, Madara felt Hashirama's chakra. I'm pretty sure Naruto can match his sensor abilities. We already saw, how great a sensor he has become (again the key-char getting developed every time, here again I could have wanted someone else to be the sensor for him perhaps... nvm).
3rd, Naruto posses the ability to sense people's attentions, so he probably already knows, that they come in will to help him, yeah even Sasuke too.
4th, Naruto is stupid, but when it comes to protecting his friends - even if you think I don't understand his character, it is you, who don't! Naruto was already told, that casualties cannot be avoided! I think both Neji and Hinata made it clear to him how important it was, that he regained his chakra, so they would have a chance to stop the Juubi.
By using all his chakra on defending his friends, he would eventually end up with the Juubi killing all of them anyway. He already realized this! But if there was just a slight opportunity to stop people from dying, he would take it, and that is why he is defending them, cause he sensed backup coming. Else it doesn't make sense. But lets wait and see

In the eyes of the fans... well, you do hold some truth there. In the eyes of the fans probably means nothing, however, in the eyes of those who truly read and analyze this manga will probably mean. And a lot. Because, as I already said, this speech holds many great implications and allusions at the overall manga and it's meaning/message to be conveyed.

Possibly, but I do not agree to the same extent. Surely its implications are good, but I don't think its effect will not be as important.

 

[Madmadder]

Hi
A newish member here. I lurk most of the time reading people's opinion on stuff and found something strange in this site -A rule of no character bashing. Why? They are not real person. They do not have feelings. It seemed reading on and I am sorry if I may be wrong but the OT of theis thread seems to be responsible for such a non sense rule since she is a fan of a character most in this site hate and she can not bear that. She seems to be a moderator and has much influence in this site so she got her unfair wishes.So the rule was put in place not because it would hurt a fictional character(who of course cannot have a feeling) because it would hurt the feelings of a moderator.
Also in this thread I saw her insinuating threat to people saying they did not read her great wall of texts. This types of stuff keep happenning on other adult conversation site and grown ups can deal with that but this site seems to bend to the wills of a person who has weak will and cannot deal with criticism like an adult. So she places rules to protecxt her ego.
Now someone can say that other sites have more arguing but what two person gets along just fine when they can know each others deepest feelings? These arguments help people grow or release frustration but this site seems to bend to the wills of a person with a hitler mentality who wants to stanch other people's opinion if it does not confirm with hers.
So in the name of FREEDOM and since I am probably going to be banned for expressing my honest opinion:
SAKURA SUCKS BALLS.
sorry to post such a long post but compared to OT its miniscule.

Good job. Don't worry about half of these opinion because 98% of the people on here can't use proper grammar and write a lot while keeping the main focus on her speech. Well done. I read all of it. Makes me see Sakura in a new light.

98% of people here probably are not from an English speaking country so you have to keep that in mind. If you cannot particularly understand somebody you can either ask them what they mean (multiple time if you have to) or you can move on. No need to insult a real person here where you cannot even insult fictional person. Such strange rules!!

 

[HyuugaHeir]

first, i just want to say that im a big naruhina fan, but i dont hate sakura at all..

i agree that sakura's speech in chapter 630 is one of the most influential and impactful speeches of all..
And i salute you in reading between her speech.

my personal intuition about the matter is that...it's time for sakura to resurface and have serious panel time because she is the heroine and there is an upcoming big scenario ---sasuke, duh! --- team 7's big comeback
#imnewhere