Itachi and Minato it ends here....

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Im making this post due to people ALWAYS giving Itachi and Minato crap

Im going to put key features and abilities for both users starting with itachi and then we will discuss things.

Also I will prove that Kushina actually did more for Naruto than Minato has since that will be most peoples Arguments.

Itachi Key Roles:

Killed Uchiha Clan and saved the Village from being completely overrun by Uchiha Clan (Help from Obito/tobi
Haulted the progress of Obito/Tobi due to him fearing Itachi

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Stopped Edo Tensei making him the Hero of the War and thus allowing the Alliance to fully Support Naruto
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If Itachi didn't stop Edo Tensei Obito/Tobi would have captured bee and Naruto using the other Jinchuuriki
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Acknowledged by the God of Shinobi himself as being a Better Shinobi than him
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Planned his own life to make Sasuke into the Epicness that he is today

Saved Naruto and Bee from being Captured by Pein/Kabuto.

Made Sasuke good again through his actions and removed the Curse seal / Emo Seal



Minato Key Roles:

Saved the Village from the nine tails attack at Naruto's Birth using Demon Seal (Helped by Kushina)

Defeated Obito/Tobi at Naruto's Birth
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Sealed up the nine tails again during Naruto vs Pain Battle

Warped a Tailed Beast Bomb ( )

Created Rasengan

Learned Jutsu from Kushina to allow Naruto to control the nine tails


Now I want to discuss Abilities:

Itachi:

Tskyomi
Highly Advance Genjutsu (Users are in a Genjutsu about being in a Genjutsu)
Invincible Susanoo (Sword of Totsuka and Yata Mirror) (Proven in Manga)
Amaterasu
Genius Intellience >= Minato
Extremely Fast
Most Keen Eyes in Uchiha

Minato:

FTG + Kunai Tags
Demon Seal (Epic move but at the cost of your life)
Rasengan
Extremely Fast
Genius Intellience >= Itachi


With this being said I just would like to say that through pure Manga facts alone we can agree that Itachi was a greater shinobi than Minato.

Now before people talk about how Naruto has BM modes because of Minato... Lets not forget that it was Kushina who actually assisted Naruto in getting BM AND before any one complains about how Minato was the one that did the seal lets not forget that it was Kushina who taught minato the Seal.

One key thing I want to point out is that Both there fighting styles are exactky opposite of one another since Itachi prefer Genjutsu and distance.. Minato is close range taijutsu/ point of contact jutsu. With this being said I dont care about fighting im referring to overall greatness and achievements.

In a Fight though I have always been one to say Genjutsu > All other and Itachi is the best genjutsu user in the series Overall


EDIT: Minato Admitting he failed as a hokage and also Orochimaru stating that everyone wanted him to be hokage over Minato

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If it want for Minato's sacrifice, Itachi would have been dead at a young age.

Realistically people should just enjoy the beauty of the series and the intertwining stories not just compare characters stupidly
 

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Before anyone mentions genjutsu ! Minato fought Tobi who is quite proficient in genjutsu himself, and Minato had no problem there. So again Genjutsu users you can assume he really wont be at a disadvantage.
 

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Before anyone mentions genjutsu ! Minato fought Tobi who is quite proficient in genjutsu himself, and Minato had no problem there. So again Genjutsu users you can assume he really wont be at a disadvantage.
Comparing Tobi genjutsu to Itachi genjutsu is just LOL

Itachi puts people in genjutsu before they even know there in Genjutsu

Look at Deidara, Orochimaru, Naruto, and Sasuke lol
 

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Comparing Tobi genjutsu to Itachi genjutsu is just LOL

Itachi puts people in genjutsu before they even know there in Genjutsu

Look at Deidara, Orochimaru, Naruto, and Sasuke lol
It is irrelevant, because in order to put someone in a genjutsu you need to look at their eyes ( Sharingan )
Minato fought Tobi who had the sharingan, so you can assume he did not look at his eye :happy:

Itachi is the best genjutsu user out there, but if you avoid looking into his eyes you wont get caught ( Not counting Izanami which wont work on minato )
 

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If it want for Minato's sacrifice, Itachi would have been dead at a young age.

Realistically people should just enjoy the beauty of the series and the intertwining stories not just compare characters stupidly
Not quite... Remember Hiruzen knew the demon seal as well but I understand your point! The thing is though! We are kids that like to reason about our favorite Chars so..... Be political somewhere else!
 

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Comparing Tobi genjutsu to Itachi genjutsu is just LOL

Itachi puts people in genjutsu before they even know there in Genjutsu

Look at Deidara, Orochimaru, Naruto, and Sasuke lol
Tobi controlled a perf.jinchuriki with his genjutsu.His genjutsu can't be taken lightly.He's the second person to control the nine tails with his sharingan after the great uchiha madara.
 

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Do you really this will change people minds that already think Minato > Itachi? Nobody listens to reason on here, especially not Minato or Itachi fanboys.
 

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dude thats dumb whole vill had run on sight orders
no one ran from itachi

minato - here son im give the other half of 9tail and ftg to you

naruto- thank dad dose are the best gift

minato- that not the gift i came here to give you.

naruto- ok then want is the gift

minato- ahahahah son i give u the world u are the new solo king


who beat naruto after he get the other half of 9tail and ftg. its ok i'll wait.........................................
 

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It is irrelevant, because in order to put someone in a genjutsu you need to look at their eyes ( Sharingan )
Minato fought Tobi who had the sharingan, so you can assume he did not look at his eye :happy:

Itachi is the best genjutsu user out there, but if you avoid looking into his eyes you wont get caught ( Not counting Izanami which wont work on minato )
Its not easy to fight someone like itachi without looking at his eyes, you won't see amaterasu coming and you will be burnt alive
 
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Its not easy to fight someone like itachi without looking at him, you won't see amaterasu coming and you will be burnt alive
You know I don't favour either side ;) I'm not talking about Minato VS Itachi at this point. I'm just saying that you need to look at someone's sharingan in order to become trapped in a genjutsu, which is true, wouldn't you agree ?
 

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You know I don't favour either side ;) I'm not talking about Minato VS Itachi at this point. I'm just saying that you need to look at someone's sharingan in order to become trapped in a genjutsu, which is true, wouldn't you agree ?
Yup but if minato chooses not to look in itachi's eyes to avoid being in a genjutsu then it will also give itachi the advantage. As i said before, minato can be burnt with amaterasu
 

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Not quite... Remember Hiruzen knew the demon seal as well but I understand your point! The thing is though! We are kids that like to reason about our favorite Chars so..... Be political somewhere else!
Thats why i said "realistically"
Read my sig and you will see how bad things get on Itachi threads...Reason goes right out of the window with people/fanboys.
 

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Yup but if minato chooses not to look in itachi's eyes to avoid being in a genjutsu then it will also give itachi the advantage. As i said before, minato can be burnt with amaterasu
I'm not talking about them verse each other :rage: * Throws a kettle at you *

Tbh This battle could go either way. There are a lot of factors to put in and remember Itachi's low stamina. So it is all down to whether Itachi hits Minato with a killer technique or he becomes exhausted. I honestly do not know :happy:
 

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You know I don't favour either side ;) I'm not talking about Minato VS Itachi at this point. I'm just saying that you need to look at someone's sharingan in order to become trapped in a genjutsu, which is true, wouldn't you agree ?
You do know its proven in the manga that you dont have to make eye contact with him to be put in his Genjutsu
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@6thpathsage:

I see your point now and apologize. I just made this thread as a means to compare there contributions to the ninja world more than vs thread but I can see it will end up being that.


LOL someone deleted there post before I could quote it but he stated "Manga facts" dont prove Sh*t lmao wish I screen shot it
 
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