Yata Mirror is unbreakable.

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It say's it in the data book. It say's in the manga all attacks and in the data book it explains more on Yata Mirror. I will show you fi you want. I have checked before posting it as it's fact and not my opinion.

Look how mad the little hater get's when all of his failed arguments are getting destroyed near to instantly. You tell me to get lost yet you come on to my thread which has nothing but Manga and data book facts on here, try to say all of it is wrong without an actual reason behind it (even if you posted a reason it would be wrong seeing as you can't go against Manga and data book facts) and then tell me to get lost?

You don't need feats, if I wrote a story or made a Manga and said that a certain items or technique can do something, that means it can. The Manga said the Yata Mirror can block all attacks, which can be seen as only hype but when it's also stated in the data book that Kishimoto made himself and also explains further what it can do and how it can do it then it is true.

LOl You're a bigger dumbass than i thought lmfao.Fanboys always need to have their asses handed to them,do you even know why feat's so are important?Look at techniques like amaterasu "flames said to be as hot as the sun" That's bullshit on so many level's,because anyone who know's their science should know that if a piece of the sun were on the ground that anyone,who wasn't approximately 90 mile's or more away from that spot would be instantly incinerated.Now go back through the manga/anime(which ever,doesn't really matter) and look at everything that amaterasu has touched.From object's to humans amateratsu has not managed to burn 1 thing on the level that the sun would have.Do i need to keep going? Well certainly...Gaara's sand shield was said to be absolute,yet how many times has it been gotten through? Plus let's add 1 more thing about gaara,he's was untouchable his entire life until he encountered a real challenge,ya know until that so-called absolute defence was..TESTED.See where I'm getting at? That's why feat's are so important dumabass,because if you keep relying on hype It's always going to turn out to be bullshit...The manga/anime has thought us that at least..

 

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It say's it in the data book. It say's in the manga all attacks and in the data book it explains more on Yata Mirror. I will show you fi you want. I have checked before posting it as it's fact and not my opinion.

LOl You're a bigger dumbass that i thought lmfao.Fanboys always need to have their asses handed to them,do you even know why feat's so are important?Look at techniques like amaterasu "flames said to be as hot as the sun" That's bullshit on so many level's,because anyone who know's their science should know that if a piece of the sun were on the ground that anyone,who wasn't approximately 90 mile's or more away from that spot would be instantly incinerated.Now go back through the manga/anime(which ever,doesn't really matter) and look at everything that amaterasu has touched.From object's to humans amateratsu has not managed to burn 1 thing on the level that the sun would have.Do i need to keep going? Well certainly...Gaara's sand shield was said to be absolute,yet how many times has it been gotten through? Plus let's add 1 more thing about gaara,he's was untouchable his entire life until he encountered a real challenge,ya know until that so-called absolute defence was..TESTED.See where I'm getting at? That's why feat's are so important dumabass,because if you keep relying on hype It's always going to turn out to be bullshit...The manga/anime has thought us that at least..

I know most of the hype is wrong but Yata Mirror has a perfect explanation as to why it blocks everything. That's the big difference which I have stated so many times.

I will show you an example of why Yata Mirror, no matter what, can't be broken and will always block everything.

Gaara's sand shield is always the same thing and made up of the same thing, someone can find out it's weakness and use a technique which makes sand useless, that is how they break through what was a ultimate defence before but now isn't.

Yata Mirror, constantly changes it's attributes to negate the incoming attack or the incoming attacks attributes to make the attack nothing. So if the Yata Mirror was once weak to Fire style, it now isn't since it has just changed to a Water type of attribute or it changes the Fire attack into nothing at all.

That's how Yata Mirror works, I would have said I was wrong if the shield wasn't always changing but it is, so that's the biggest reason it's hype is still a big as a fact as feats.

If you don't understand what I posted above and say I'm wrong then there's no more point with you, I have just posted an easy to understand argument and it's 100% true.

Edit: Could you also fix your grammar to a point that it's easy to read, space out your text by making some paragraphs so it's not so bundled together and once again not so hard/annoying to read?

 

[HadouKage]

As you can see in the top paragraph it says that the attack loses it's meaning, and it states that all attacks do.

In the bottom paragraph it say's the Yata Mirror changes it's attributes to render the attack ineffective.

So like I said, the Yata Mirror effects both itself and the attacks being used.

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Ok so let me break this down for you

hy·per·bo·le noun \hī-ˈpər-bə-(ˌ)lē\

Definition of HYPERBOLE

: extravagant exaggeration (as “mile-high ice-cream cones”)
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ex·ag·ger·at·edex·ag·ger·at·ing

Definition of EXAGGERATE

transitive verb
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: to enlarge beyond bounds or the truth : overstate <a friend exaggerates a man's virtues — Joseph Addison>
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: to enlarge or increase especially beyond the normal:

What you showed me says that all attacks lose their meaning. Lets use logic here. Why does this happen? Because Yata mirror is said to change ITS, NOT OTHERS attributes to defend against it (as you can see in the databook, this supports my claim.) If a Katon and a Suton collide then both attacks lose there meaning, why? Because they have been cancelled out due to the change in attributes after collision. Want another example? When Sasuke fought Deidara and his Chidori nullified Deidara's paper bombs? Why? Because Raiton has an advantage over Doton. And they paper bombs.... lost their meaning.

The fact of what your doing is interpreting the input of yata mirror for your own liking and you are taking a statement that indirectly doesn't even support your claim (or at least "indirectly" you try to make it as such).

That still don't change that it was reversing all of his attacks and that he said next that it can repel all attacks.

Well like I said the shield changes it's attributes to block/reverse the attack that hit's the shield then clearly it has to hit the shield first.

No, Yata doesn't reverse anything

It says that "attacks lose their meaning". In neither entry does it say anything about changing the attributes of an incoming attack. In fact it says in the entry of yata mirror "allowing it to alter ITS attributes in ACCORDANCE with the attributes of the attack."

ac·cor·dance noun \ə-ˈkȯr-dən(t)s\

Definition of ACCORDANCE

1
: agreement, conformity <in accordance with a rule>
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: the act of granting

con·for·mi·ty noun \kən-ˈfȯr-mə-tē\
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Definition of CONFORMITY

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: correspondence in form, manner, or character : agreement <behaved in conformity with her beliefs>
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: an act or instance of conforming

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Definition of CONFORM

transitive verb
: to give the same shape, outline, or contour to : bring into harmony or accord <conform furrows to the slope of the land>
intransitive verb
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: to be similar or identical; also : to be in agreement or harmony —used with to or with <changes that conform with our plans>
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a : to be obedient or compliant —usually used with to <conform to another's wishes>
b : to act in accordance with prevailing standards or customs <the pressure to conform>

If we look at how you've been describing yata, its been wrong anyway. As "in accordance" too in the merriam dictionary does not change yata mirror to counter jutsu, but makes the shield's attributes of the same nature as the jutsu.

The databook, states that Kamui cannot be defended against. The databook claims Yata can defend all attacks. What we have now is a paradox

par·a·dox noun \ˈper-ə-ˌdäks, ˈpa-rə-\

Definition of PARADOX

1
: a tenet contrary to received opinion
2
a : a statement that is seemingly contradictory or opposed to common sense and yet is perhaps true
b : a self-contradictory statement that at first seems true
c : an argument that apparently derives self-contradictory conclusions by valid deduction from acceptable premises
3
: one (as a person, situation, or action) having seemingly contradictory qualities or phases

Yata is said to have all 5 nature affinities. Kamui doesn't use nature affinities. Yata cannot block Kamui

 

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Ok so let me break this down for you



What you showed me says that all attacks lose their meaning. Lets use logic here. Why does this happen? Because Yata mirror is said to change ITS, NOT OTHERS attributes to defend against it (as you can see in the databook, this supports my claim.) If a Katon and a Suton collide then both attacks lose there meaning, why? Because they have been cancelled out due to the change in attributes after collision. Want another example? When Sasuke fought Deidara and his Chidori nullified Deidara's paper bombs? Why? Because Raiton has an advantage over Doton. And they paper bombs.... lost their meaning.

The fact of what your doing is interpreting the input of yata mirror for your own liking and you are taking a statement that indirectly doesn't even support your claim (or at least "indirectly" you try to make it as such).




No, Yata doesn't reverse anything

It says that "attacks lose their meaning". In neither entry does it say anything about changing the attributes of an incoming attack. In fact it says in the entry of yata mirror "allowing it to alter ITS attributes in ACCORDANCE with the attributes of the attack."







If we look at how you've been describing yata, its been wrong anyway. As "in accordance" too in the merriam dictionary does not change yata mirror to counter jutsu, but makes the shield's attributes of the same nature as the jutsu.

The databook, states that Kamui cannot be defended against. The databook claims Yata can defend all attacks. What we have now is a paradox



Yata is said to have all 5 nature affinities. Kamui doesn't use nature affinities. Yata cannot block Kamui

The fact that the Yata Mirror makes the attack lose meaning is changing the attack itself.

Yata Mirror has never been said to only block/negate/repel only Nature affinity type attacks.

Kamui does get blocked and that's that, Kamui is a Jutsu. it has a weakness, Yata Mirror is a piece of spiritual equipment which has special effects to make it have no weakness. It blocks all attacks and that's that.

 

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That's hardly anything, Minato is able to warp that entire thing, the Yata Mirror once touched slightly by that ball will have no meaning any longer, it will be nullified and gone.

Edit: You're all judging a book by it's cover, by this I mean you all see Yata Mirror and it looks like a weak shield, when placed in front of a TBB it looks so tiny it's unbelievable but that doesn't make any difference to the abilities it holds inside. Them abilities are what makes it block all attacks, not by the actual size of it but by the ability it holds.

 

[HadouKage]

The fact that the Yata Mirror makes the attack lose meaning is changing the attack itself.

Yata Mirror has never been said to only block/negate/repel only Nature affinity type attacks.

Kamui does get blocked and that's that, Kamui is a Jutsu. it has a weakness, Yata Mirror is a piece of spiritual equipment which has special effects to make it have no weakness. It blocks all attacks and that's that.

I mean did you really not read what I posted? I just gave countless amounts of evidence against your claim, using your own source against you. the definition of accordance is synonymous to "same" Yata mirror cancels out the attack through nature releases because it makes the shield the SAME NATURE/IN ACCORDANCE TOO

Kamui gets blocked because you're kishi? Ok Kamui's only known weakness in the manga is

Kamui
Authority of the Gods* (神威, Kamui)
Ninjutsu, Kekkei Genkai, No rank, Offensive, Defensive, All ranges
User: Hatake Kakashi

Changing the dimension in one's field of vision.
A lavish, unparalleled dimensional doujutsu!!

Kakashi's original doujutsu, released from the "Mangekyou Sharingan". It allows one to transfer anything to another dimension. If one spends a lot of time and trains one's chakra over and over again, this technique can be invoked. The target is enveloped with a barrier space, and the user concentrates their mind to what they gaze at... The target can struggle helplessly, but against this technique no defence is possible. No matter what, the space will distort and draw the target in.

Stop grasping straws and come up with some credible refutable evidence :|

 

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That's hardly anything, Minato is able to warp that entire thing, the Yata Mirror once touched slightly by that ball will have no meaning any longer, it will be nullified and gone.

yata mirror will make the tbb vanish?

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I mean did you really not read what I posted? I just gave countless amounts of evidence against your claim, using your own source against you. the definition of accordance is synonymous to "same" Yata mirror cancels out the attack through nature releases because it makes the shield the SAME NATURE/IN ACCORDANCE TOO

Kamui gets blocked because you're kishi? Ok Kamui's only known weakness in the manga is



Stop grasping straws and come up with some credible refutable evidence :|

I know I'm not Kishimoto, I'm just stating that what he wrote must be true about his own story...

I read all your post but I only answered what was needed, the points with no Manga or data book information have no relevance here.

Kamui's weakness is Kumai? Kumai has attributes, Yata Mirror changes into them attributes, Kamui is now cancelled.

You can't deny that at all...

 

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I didn't mean the Juubi's TBB was nothing I was saying that it's still not able to break the shield, like I've said before, if the TBB slightly touches Yata Mirror, it's own attributes and the TBB's will change so that the TBB is now nothing and the shield is unharmed.

 

[HadouKage]

I know I'm not Kishimoto, I'm just stating that what he wrote must be true about his own story...

I read all your post but I only answered what was needed, the points with no Manga or data book information have no relevance here.

Kamui's weakness is Kumai? Kumai has attributes, Yata Mirror changes into them attributes, Kamui is now cancelled.

You can't deny that at all...

Bro, you have got to be joking. Words make up a manga, and yes they support my claim because you seem to misunderstand Yata entirely. IN ACCORDANCE TO is SYNONYMOUS TO SAME. Therefore yata doesn't not counter but cancels out the attack. I don't know why that is so hard to understand

 

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Bro, you have got to be joking. Words make up a manga, and yes they support my claim because you seem to misunderstand Yata entirely. IN ACCORDANCE TO is SYNONYMOUS TO SAME. Therefore yata doesn't not counter but cancels out the attack. I don't know why that is so hard to understand

Exactly my point... Yata Mirror cancels out the attack. This includes Kamui...

 

[HadouKage]

Exactly my point... Yata Mirror cancels out the attack. This includes Kamui...

With nature affinities -___-

 

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With nature affinities -___-

Show me proof it's only Nature affinities? Nothing has ever said this, nothing that isn't fan made anyway.

 

[enditallsin]

I know most of the hype is wrong but Yata Mirror has a perfect explanation as to why it blocks everything. That's the big difference which I have stated so many times.

I will show you an example of why Yata Mirror, no matter what, can't be broken and will always block everything.

Gaara's sand shield is always the same thing and made up of the same thing, someone can find out it's weakness and use a technique which makes sand useless, that is how they break through what was a ultimate defence before but now isn't.

Yata Mirror, constantly changes it's attributes to negate the incoming attack or the incoming attacks attributes to make the attack nothing. So if the Yata Mirror was once weak to Fire style, it now isn't since it has just changed to a Water type of attribute or it changes the Fire attack into nothing at all.

That's how Yata Mirror works, I would have said I was wrong if the shield wasn't always changing but it is, so that's the biggest reason it's hype is still a big as a fact as feats.

If you don't understand what I posted above and say I'm wrong then there's no more point with you, I have just posted an easy to understand argument and it's 100% true.

Edit: Could you also fix your grammar to a point that it's easy to read, space out your text by making some paragraphs so it's not so bundled together and once again not so hard/annoying to read?

Alright dude,My point was that hype NEVER really measure's up in the naruto manga/anime series,So if you really think that mirror can do all that,you're going to be very disappointed,that's IF you actually see it again.

 

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Alright dude,My point was that hype NEVER really measure's up in the naruto manga/anime series,So if you really think that mirror can do all that,you're going to be very disappointed,that's IF you actually see it again.

But you agree that Yata Mirror is constantly changing while other techniques like Gaara's sand shield can be analysed and countered, no matter how long it takes, right?

As Yata Mirror does change depending on the attack. (Manga and data book fact that, that's what it can do)

Edit: I know a lot of hype is just hype and shouldn't be taken seriously but if it's been backed up by the data book with a very good explanation as to why it can do what it's been hyped to do then you can't really disagree.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Show me proof it's only Nature affinities? Nothing has ever said this, nothing that isn't fan made anyway.

Quite simple to prove. Yata thus far only blocked Nature Transformation jutsus.

The main point of Yata is that is changes its attributes to counter the attack.

A raiton is countered with Wind.

A Katon with Water.

Kamui is an S/T jutsu, thus it has no weakness.

Bijuudama is not a nature transformation, thus it has no weakness.

Perfect Susanoo slash has no weakness.

Yata cannot become the opponent jutsu's counter if it has no counters.

I don't know why this is hard to understand. Anyone saying Itachi can block the Juubi's Bijuudama is simply stupid.

 

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Quite simple to prove. Yata thus far only blocked Nature Transformation jutsus.

The main point of Yata is that is changes its attributes to counter the attack.

A raiton is countered with Wind.

A Katon with Water.

Kamui is an S/T jutsu, thus it has no weakness.

Bijuudama is not a nature transformation, thus it has no weakness.

Perfect Susanoo slash has no weakness.

Yata cannot become the opponent jutsu's counter if it has no counters.

I don't know why this is hard to understand. Anyone saying Itachi can block the Juubi's Bijuudama is simply stupid.

No that's your opinion not fact. I wanted real proof from either the Manga or the data book. Yata hasn't only blocked Nature transformations, it blocked exploding Kunai and Sasuke's sword which both have no Nature affinity which instantly proves that your opinion about Yata Mirror only blocking Nature affinities are wrong.

 

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But you agree that Yata Mirror is constantly changing while other techniques like Gaara's sand shield can be analysed and countered, no matter how long it takes, right?

As Yata Mirror does change depending on the attack. (Manga and data book fact that, that's what it can do)

Edit: I know a lot of hype is just hype and shouldn't be taken seriously but if it's been backedked up by the data book with a very good explanation as to why it can do what it's been hyped to do then you can't really disagree.

Not really because itachi's shield can also be analysed like he say's "Everything has a weakness"same applies for yata mirror.

 

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Not really because itachi's shield can also be analysed like he say's "Everything has a weakness"same applies for yata mirror.

No he say's every Jutsu has a weakness, Yata Mirror isn't a Jutsu it's a piece of equipment, spiritual equipment. Why do people even try to use that as an argument? Anyone who uses that "counter" clearly don't know what a Jutsu is. So no, it doesn't apply to Yata Mirror.

Now that I've explained that, can you still disagree, with actual real reason to?

 

[phylos]

I can't be bothered to read this entire thread so I'm going to post something I posted in another thread

There are only two scenarios in Itachi blocking Kirin: A) he used the Yata mirror (his most powerful defense) and it was destroyed or B) He didn't summon the yata mirror and decided to risk it summoning only a part of Susanoo.

The first scenario is self-explanatory and simple (following Occam's razor, it is the one I believe).
The second scenario implies that A) Itachi risked his entire plan at the last moment by not summoning the mirror and that would make him an idiot, something Itachi definitely isn't or B) Itachi summoned the mirror, then dispelled the entire susanoo, got rid of his akatsuki robe, dropped to the floor and then stood back up to summon susanoo, again.

And, finally, Itachi wasn't able to counter Chibaku Tensei, mirror nowithstanding, he had to attack it directly and with Naruto and Bee's help.