Yata Mirror is unbreakable.

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I don't know where you got the No matter what part from.

also Kirin didn't get countered, Kirin got through susanoo to itachi

He has his cloak on before it's fired

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after the impact
He is laying face down on the floor, with his cloak gone

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It seems you was writing this before I posted my proof above that Susano'o without Yata Mirror was the thing that blocked Kirin.

 

[Blaze Release]

Both weapons are spiritual weapons.

The spiritual entities we know of is the death god or Dan when he uses reika.
I doubt you can break either of these two entities in their form.

Anyway the weapons go through a transformation stage.
The sword is liquid and comes out of a jar to form the blade.
The shield has a fiery state to it when material.

Both weapons are ethereal basically.

Now it is possible that in the state where the shield takes a material stage it can be broken, after all it deflected sasuke's sword, paper bombs and the hydra's head. However what is stopping the weapon to go into a state of it being spiritual again, therefore the attacks go through it, after all "it changes its properties in accordance with the attack".

If it was to stay in this material form and took a strong attack head on, lets say the 9 tails tbb and it shatters.
Going by its description, if itachi was to deactivate susano and activate it again, he will have these weapons so its not like shattering it, is the end of those weapons.

What i am not sure about, is that the weapons were said to deflect attacks meaning it would be hard to break it if has deflecting properties and we saw this with sasuke's sword, but also the snakes. [

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Anyway at first i didn;t want sasuke to have the weapons because in this manga nothing is unique anymore.
The ms was said to be unique, lol.
Rinnegan was said to appear considered a myth/mutation.
Mokuton was unique
Hiraishin was unique, until recently

So i wanted these weapons to stay unique to itachi, but now i want sasuke to have them.
Because we will be able to see ore of what the weapons can do. Yes some itachi fans hide behind its hype and DB entry, but at the same time it is underrated when you see people putting madara's gunbai above it or saying oodama rasengan gets past it, or people who still cannot wrap around their heads that, its altering of properties doesn't only govern elemental techniques.

So yh sasuke having it and it gaining feats should silence both who grip to the DB entry and claim itachi is invincible when such a thing doesn't exist, yes including Hashirama and does who underrated a weapon that has been labelled 'legendary' and compare it with other fodder weapons

 

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Both weapons are spiritual weapons.

The spiritual entities we know of is the death god or Dan when he uses reika.
I doubt you can break either of these two entities in their form.

Anyway the weapons go through a transformation stage.
The sword is liquid and comes out of a jar to form the blade.
The shield has a fiery state to it when material.

Both weapons are ethereal basically.

Now it is possible that in the state where the shield takes a material stage it can be broken, after all it deflected sasuke's sword, paper bombs and the hydra's head. However what is stopping the weapon to go into a state of it being spiritual again, therefore the attacks go through it, after all "it changes its properties in accordance with the attack".

If it was to stay in this material form and took a strong attack head on, lets say the 9 tails tbb and it shatters.
Going by its description, if itachi was to deactivate susano and activate it again, he will have these weapons so its not like shattering it, is the end of those weapons.

What i am not sure about, is that the weapons were said to deflect attacks meaning it would be hard to break it if has deflecting properties and we saw this with sasuke's sword, but also the snakes. [

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Anyway at first i didn;t want sasuke to have the weapons because in this manga nothing is unique anymore.
The ms was said to be unique, lol.
Rinnegan was said to appear considered a myth/mutation.
Mokuton was unique
Hiraishin was unique, until recently

So i wanted these weapons to stay unique to itachi, but now i want sasuke to have them.
Because we will be able to see ore of what the weapons can do. Yes some itachi fans hide behind its hype and DB entry, but at the same time it is underrated when you see people putting madara's gunbai above it or saying oodama rasengan gets past it, or people who still cannot wrap around their heads that, its altering of properties doesn't only govern elemental techniques.

So yh sasuke having it and it gaining feats should silence both who grip to the DB entry and claim itachi is invincible when such a thing doesn't exist, yes including Hashirama and does who underrated a weapon that has been labelled 'legendary' and compare it with other fodder weapons

I agree with most of this but in case you think I thought Itachi was invincible, that's not the case.

Edit: I don't really agree with it being shattered at all seeing as it never loses it's ability no matter what form it's in to change the attributes of itself and the incoming attack. A Bijuu Dama might be a very, very strong attack but people forget that the Bijuu Dama would be changed into something else, a block-able thing, as it's attributes would be changed to something the Yata Mirror can defend the best against.

Now if the Yata Mirror changes the Bijuu Dama's attributes into the same attributes Fire has and then the Yata Mirror does the same to it's own but with Water then the incoming attack wouldn't have any affect at all. Damage wise anyway.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Well, Kamui can create a warp exactly where Itachi is. Inside the Susanoo.

Susanoo is chakra and it does not create an anti S/T barrier. Itachi gets warped even while inside Susanoo since the Susanoo can't parry it.

Wouldn't kakashi just end up warping the susanno since its the first thing in his line of sight?

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Well I don't see how any of this really breaks the shield now does it? It doesn't harm the shield, so I'm still correct that the shield blocks all attacks, if Kamui isn't really an attack then I'm still correct seeing as I said it blocks all attacks. Where does that leave your Kumai statement now? If it is an attack it will get blocked if it's transportation then it doesn't need to get blocked.

Edit: @bold, it makes you sound like you're right and that's really stupid seeing as you're not...

I am right, if it warps the shield fully then the shield failed to protect the user.
If kakashi warps part of the shield the shield will break. Just like deidara's arm/hachibi's tail.

 

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I am right, if it warps the shield fully then the shield failed to protect the user.
If kakashi warps part of the shield the shield will break. Just like deidara's arm/hachibi's tail.

I have found out a bit more about Yata Mirror, I will use a slight bit of what I found out to counter that... Yata Mirror can change it's own attributes and if needed the attributes of the incoming attack. For example, a TBB when used on Yata Mirror would have it's own attributes changed making it completely different. It might even change it's attributes into a copy of a pebbles attributes so that it's nothing but a weak little pebble.

 

[BenjerminGaye]

I have found out a bit more about Yata Mirror, I will use a slight bit of what I found out to counter that... Yata Mirror can change it's own attributes and if needed the attributes of the incoming attack. For example, a TBB when used on Yata Mirror would have it's own attributes changed making it completely different. It might even change it's attributes into a copy of a pebbles attributes so that it's nothing but a weak little pebble.

So? It doesn't change the mechanics of kamui and how kamui works.

 

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So? It doesn't change the mechanics of kamui and how kamui works.

Actually it does. Once Kamui starts warping the Yata Mirror, the Yata Mirror changes the attributes of Kamui itself, if it's no long Kamui then how can it warp? It doesn't mean Obito can't use it anymore but it only means the current Kamui attacking/warping the Yata Mirror will be changed.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Skeletal Susanoo isn't blocking Kirin when Danzo's fuutons were tearing through the v3 Susanoo.

He used Yata and it failed.

As for Kamui, no, Yata can't do shi t against it. Databook says Kamui is unblockable, not to mention Kamui can be cast INSIDE Susanoo. Why would he want to warp Yata anyway.

 

[Strict]

Yata repels any direct attack. I don't see why we should contradict with the definition attributed to it in the databook. Coming up with the contradiction that happened when Tobi became Obito is simply wrong, as the databook can only reveal informations about the story to the point it is running, and at the time the databook was published, Tobi introduced himself as Madara. The fact is that Yata was called in both the databook and Manga - pronounced by black Zetsu who was the epitome of Madara's will - completely invincible. It's not compared to the hype given to certain techniques by people who admire their effectiveness, like several techniques which were said to be perfect in offensive and defensive meanings; black-Zetsu accurately emphasized that every attack is blocked by the shield and makes the user along with Totsuka completely invincible, so the databook defined the shield's properties and stated that every attack hitting it will be nullified.

I think until a scan and statement, having more weight than what was already stated about the Yata mirror wasn't handed out by you to answer back, a further discussion is just a waste of time and only led by those who are either ignorant or can't accept Itachi's qualities, trying to downplay him.

 

[Inert Brian]

It's just a case of not seeing enough of the shield in action. I'm not saying that it is not impossible to break, but from what i've heard people underestimate the yata mirror.

 

[enditallsin]

No feat to back that up.../thread

 

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Yata repels any direct attack. I don't see why we should contradict with the definition attributed to it in the databook. Coming up with the contradiction that happened when Tobi became Obito is simply wrong, as the databook can only reveal informations about the story to the point it is running, and at the time the databook was published, Tobi introduced himself as Madara. The fact is that Yata was called in both the databook and Manga - pronounced by black Zetsu who was the epitome of Madara's will - completely invincible. It's not compared to the hype given to certain techniques by people who admire their effectiveness, like several techniques which were said to be perfect in offensive and defensive meanings; black-Zetsu accurately emphasized that every attack is blocked by the shield and makes the user along with Totsuka completely invincible, so the databook defined the shield's properties and stated that every attack hitting it will be nullified.

I think until a scan and statement, having more weight than what was already stated about the Yata mirror wasn't handed out by you to answer back, a further discussion is just a waste of time and only led by those who are either ignorant or can't accept Itachi's qualities, trying to downplay him.

Thank you for this post, this sums up a lot of what I'm trying to get through to people.

@bold, True people hate on Itachi and as Itachi has Yata Mirror they don't like that it's actually very overpowered... also I'm sure you didn't mean me but I'll say this just in case, I'm only carrying on the discussion because people can't seem to understand that it blocks or at least negates all attacks.

No feat to back that up.../thread

Fail comment, there's proof already and I've shown it. You and many other idiots seem to ignore the Manga. Before I get another post about Kamui, I've already countered that above and now below so stop trying...

It's just a case of not seeing enough of the shield in action. I'm not saying that it is not impossible to break, but from what i've heard people underestimate the yata mirror.

People do underestimate it a lot, it's actually very stupid with what they come up with.

Skeletal Susanoo isn't blocking Kirin when Danzo's fuutons were tearing through the v3 Susanoo.

He used Yata and it failed.

As for Kamui, no, Yata can't do shi t against it. Databook says Kamui is unblockable, not to mention Kamui can be cast INSIDE Susanoo. Why would he want to warp Yata anyway.

Well I can tell someone is mad that I proved him wrong about Susano'o blocking Kirin and not Yata Mirror, as now you're trying to change the Manga itself, idiot.

The Yata Mirror changes it's own or the incoming attacks attributes to make the incoming attack be nullified. If Kamui get's it's attributes changed, it's no longer Kamui, is it?

 

[pateuvasiliu]

The Yata Mirror changes it's own or the incoming attacks attributes to make the incoming attack be nullified. If Kamui get's it's attributes changed, it's no longer Kamui, is it?

It doesn't change its ( Kamui's ) properties you moronic fanboy.

It changes its own properties.

You can't block Kamui due to databook saying it cannot be blocked.

If Kakashi were to fight Itachi, your solo god would be headless within the blink of an eye.

 

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It doesn't change its ( Kamui's ) properties you moronic fanboy.

It changes its own properties.

You can't block Kamui due to databook saying it cannot be blocked.

If Kakashi were to fight Itachi, your solo god would be headless within the blink of an eye.

Well first of all, it changes the incoming attack as well. Want me to prove it just like with Skeleton Susano'o blocking Kirin? Which you do know is true and did try to change the Manga which you admitted when you neg repped me.

Kakashi would get destroyed by Itachi, and actually I'm not a fanboy, get it right, I only state facts.

Edit: Have you ever seen me say anything stupid like, Hashirama > Itachi and so on? No you haven't because I'm not a fanboy.

Second edit: @bold, I will leave it in, as I did press the wrong keyboard button as it's right beside the actual button I was meant to press. I did not mean what I actually typed, I meant that I don't say things like Hashirama < Itachi.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

Which you do know is true

No, it is not.

Skeletal Susanoo is not blocking Kirin. No chance at all.

Kakashi would get destroyed by Itachi

Nope. Kamui > anything Itachi has.

Have you ever seen me say anything stupid like, Hashirama > Itachi and so on?

What are you talking about.

Hashirama > Itachi.

Do you even know what '' > '' means?

Jesus, the intellect of Itachi fanboys is lower than their number of friends.

 

[Strict]

I need to wash my mouth with soap.

 

[Izuna Kakashi Senju]

And your insight is as small as your penis. Near zero. Hnhn.

Damn you just burned him.

 

[pateuvasiliu]

And your insight is as small as your penis.

I see your mom told you lies.

 

[Curse Mark]

Have you ever seen me say anything stupid like, Hashirama > Itachi and so on? No you haven't because I'm not a fanboy.

Debating about this being my new signature...