[Theory] The True Relationship Of The Uzumakis To The Senjus And Uchihas

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

So Sumato, the brother of the Sage of the Six Paths: Kashiriku Uzumaki?

Yes, or Arashi Uzumaki

 

[Steaktacular]

Gotta give it to you when it comes to good research and details..great work ^^

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Gotta give it to you when it comes to good research and details..great work ^^

Thank you very much

 

[Zack Blade]

Great theory there
impressive analogy and references

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Great theory there
impressive analogy and references

Thank you.

 

[lion fang master]

Others insist that the Uzumaki Clan descended from the Younger Son, this is simply not true, one of the simplest reasons they couldn't is the Clan's trademark red hair.


We have here the Younger Son who clearly doesn't have red hair, in fact if we look at the anime depiction, the hair color is black:

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And his descendants (Hashirama, Tsunade, Tobirama, Nawaki,etc.) didn't have red hair:

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Then suddenly there's a "descendant" clan (Uzumaki) of the Younger Son whose pure blooded members (Naruto is half) all have red hair??? doesn't make sense. Obviously the Uzumakis like ancient clans practice "inbreeding" that they have always had red hair:

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(Pure Blooded Uzumakis)

Taking Biology into account, hair is one of the most consistent genes, and having the same color of hair in a clan who inbreeds is true. It doesn't make sense that a "descending" clan could develop such an unorthodox hair color if the original hair color was a different color. The interbreeding clan (Senju) would have to have red hair, or a strong dominant gene for it, but the Senjus don't, and red hair in itself is a recessive gene in humans.

Another thing is the place of origin of the Uzumakis: The Land of Eddys.

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(Red Square is Uzushiogakure)

If they were a descendant clan of the Younger Son, then why do they live in another country? The Senjus and Uchihas' origins have always been in the Land of Fire even before the foundation of Konoha:

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Not to mention the Uzumaki Clan's non-participation in the First Shinobi World War:

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The Uzumaki's absence and apathy to the war indicates distant blood relationships. not close blood relationships with the Senjus.

In fact, the Uzumakis weren't even the first ones who joined the village:

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It's because they only have distant ties with the Senjus, not to mention they lived in a whole different country.

Thus proving Kushina's statement that they were only distant blood relatives:

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And let's think about this logically: If the Uzumakis descended from the Younger Son, then they would be a "sibling clan" to the Senjus, and two sibling clans who share the same common ancestor would be considered a close relative not distant.

Lastly, we need only to look at the history/inspiration behind the Uzumaki Symbol:

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The Spiral


The Spiral Symbolism is one of the most ancient (if not the most ancient) spiritual symbol known to man. Dating back to the prehistoric era.

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(The Triple Spiral: Ancient Symbols dating back to the Megalithic and Neolithic Era)

And since the Uzumaki Village is known as the Village of Longevity:

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Then it only stands to reason that the Uzumakis are older than both Senjus and Uchihas.

The Uzumaki Clan therefore are not descendants of the Younger Son, but a cousin clan to both Senjus and Uchihas.

You may ask then if there really is a relationship between the Uzumakis and the Uchihas?

There is:

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The Uchiha Tablet was used with the Uzumaki Shrine Mask to unseal the Uzumaki Shiki Fuujin.

The Uzumakis are cousins to both Senjus and Uchihas.


The Senjus and Uchihas descended from Rikudou Sennin:

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The Uzumaki Clan descended not from Rikudou Sennin, but from Rikudou's Uzumaki Relatives.

Rikudou himself coming from the Uzumaki heritage:

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Thus making the Uzumakis a distant blood relative to both Senju and Uchiha as a cousin clan.


The Rinnegan came from the Juubi:

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That is why only the combination of the DNA of the direct descendants of Rikudou Sennin: The Uchihas and Senjus, could awaken the Rinnegan, because they have the Juubi's essence inside them.

The Uzumakis do not have the Juubi's essence, that is why they couldnt awaken the Rinnegan, they only have the immense Vitality, Chakra and Sealing Techs that Rikudou Sennin had prior to becoming the Juubi's Jinchuuriki.

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The formula then is:

Uzumaki(Rikudou) + Juubi = Senju and Uchiha

Sorry buddy, nice theory but if u don't have an eye jutsu u are definitely have something with that power and it hasx already been said many many times younger brother gift was sage body and life energy - sage body senju e.g hashirami senju, life energy uzumaki clan - longevity on of their clan trait so it not hard or difficult.

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

yeah uzumaki are originally from the eddy village which resides in the whirlpool country....i still can't get the connection you're trying to make between the uchiha tablet and the uzumaki mask....i thought the mask was used as a medium ....since oro can't perform jutsu's and the fact that the tablets from pre naruto(birth and post naruto (birth) are different.

 

[Draxus]

While I also thing that the Uzumaki are actually from the same clan as Rikudo, I think the way you related them to the Uchihas is far-fetched.

The symbol of the Uzumaki can also be explained by the name of their land - Whirlpool. A whirlpool has a spiraling behavior and this might have led them to drawing their clan symbol in such a way.

Note that I share the conclusion of your thread, but your argumentation is not solid. From hair color to clan symbol, everything there is actually no fact.

This! I'm glad there are a few people on this forum who think reasonably.

Derp gotta lot of cool ideas but I think he puts a little too much thought into these threads.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

yeah uzumaki are originally from the eddy village which resides in the whirlpool country....i still can't get the connection you're trying to make between the uchiha tablet and the uzumaki mask....i thought the mask was used as a medium ....since oro can't perform jutsu's and the fact that the tablets from pre naruto(birth and post naruto (birth) are different.

The Uchiha Tablet was used as the catalyst for the unsealing of the Shiki Fuujin in conjunction with the Shinigami Mask. Meaning the mask cannot be used without the Tablet.

Sorry buddy, nice theory but if u don't have an eye jutsu u are definitely have something with that power and it hasx already been said many many times younger brother gift was sage body and life energy - sage body senju e.g hashirami senju, life energy uzumaki clan - longevity on of their clan trait so it not hard or difficult.

The Younger Son's descendants are only the Senjus, not the Uzumakis, the "Sage's Body" of the Senjus is actually the "Juubi's body" the same way the Sharingan of the Uchihas is the "Eye of the Juubi" The Senjus and Uchihas are creations of Rikudou coming from the Juubi much like the Bijuus. The Uzumaki Life Force and Vitality are innate in all Uzumakis and did not come from the Juubi.

 

[Mellanoma]

Uchiha = Rinnegan + Juubi + corruption influence
Senju = Uzumaki + Juubi influence
Hyuuga = Rinnegan + Juubi Influence

From what I see you could actually say if the Elder son had a child before he became angry at his brother that child could have been Hyuuga. After the brother was filled with hate the juubi presence would influence any child after that thus forming the Sharingan

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Uchiha = Rinnegan + Juubi + corruption influence
Senju = Uzumaki + Juubi influence
Hyuuga = Rinnegan + Juubi Influence

From what I see you could actually say if the Elder son had a child before he became angry at his brother that child could have been Hyuuga. After the brother was filled with hate the juubi presence would influence any child after that thus forming the Sharingan

That is farfetched.

 

[Mellanoma]

The only explanation for how Hyuuga, Senju, and uchiha came about would be that

The elder son original children were Hyuuga but over time his hate for his brother caused the Juubi eyes to manifest through the offspring after he hated his brother.

 

[edo tensai wilmaso]

The Uchiha Tablet was used as the catalyst for the unsealing of the Shiki Fuujin in conjunction with the Shinigami Mask. Meaning the mask cannot be used without the Tablet.

like i said there are two different tablets do we know if both tablets say or do the same thing? and that still that doesn't make any sense we seen two people use RDS and not one was near a tablet or mask....so that leaves me thinking that the mask was used as a medium since oro can't do jutsu's and the whole purpose of them being down there was for kishi to show that the tablet had been switched,in a nostalgic way might i add.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

like i said there are two different tablets do we know if both tablets say or do the same thing? and that still that doesn't make any sense we seen two people use RDS and not one was near a tablet or mask....so that leaves me thinking that the mask was used as a medium since oro can't do jutsu's and the whole purpose of them being down there was for kishi to show that the tablet had been switched,in a nostalgic way might i add.

There's only one Tablet.

 

[MindHunter]

Cool theory. I also see a connection between the Elder son's eyes and Uzumaki symbol. Keep up Derp. =)

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Cool theory. I also see a connection between the Elder son's eyes and Uzumaki symbol. Keep up Derp. =)

Thank you bro.

 

[itachi1000]

Damn, you really put a lot of effort into this, nice.=D

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Inbreeding? Really derp?

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Inbreeding? Really derp?

Very common in royal families.

 

[OfficialRikudouSennin]

Very common in royal families.

Or rikudou made more. Clan members ever thought of that