Reasons why Itachi may be roughly equal to Nagato

[Midday]

Dude, it clearly was. As Kidgamer said, it doesn't have to land on his head. It's still being pulled towards him. The rock wasn't thrown in Naruto's path as you suggest. The image doesn't support this.

Same as before. Nagato is red, rock is brown and Naruto is yellow.

Never said it's going on his head. You guys are saying that objects can only be pushed or pulled with him at the center(kakshi's description), which makes it impossible for a collision to occur without him being the center, image B. We've seen Bansho tennin can do a little more than what Kakashi said.

We saw the collision happened in front of him. You guys are saying he can move things without it landing on him which supports image A which happened and debunks what Kakashi has said which would leave us with B which didn't happen. So the point about it not having to land on him contradicts the original point that Kakashi's statement is fact.

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[shelke]

What do you consider as centre? During ST, there is a large dome outside Nagato that pushes the objects back. Apply that circular dome here as well. Ultimately, the circular area outside Nagato still counts as centre. Your trajectory is wrong again, as you have completely altered the perspective drawing of the page, when we have no idea, considering the placement of the perspective point that how far the boulder would have landed. The perceptive of the page is a little left to Naruto, which doesn't align with the centre of the image.

Scratch that. I have a simpler way to explain this: Look at the lines under the Boulder. Where do they connect? Dare I say, almost exactly on his head. Which means, the boulder would have landed right next to his feet, over the right side.

 

[Draegod]

Itachi will never be equal or in the same legue as nagato!~ Like ever!

The ability/power/experience difference is too immense! Itachi is a great ninja but nagato is simply better! Hyped and shown feats by kishi himself! What is there to talk about?

If nagatos a 10, then itachi is a good 6.5/7 (which is still good)

 

[Midday]

What do you consider as centre? During ST, there is a large dome outside Nagato that pushes the objects back. Apply that circular dome here as well. Ultimately, the circular area outside Nagato still counts as centre. Your trajectory is wrong again, as you have completely altered the perspective drawing of the page, when we have no idea, considering the placement of the perspective point that how far the boulder would have landed. The perceptive of the page is Naruto, which doesn't aligned with the centre of the image.

Any part of Nagato is the center. The trajectory of the rock is clearly not going in Nagato's general direction but in front of him where the collision occurred.

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Once again you seem to think the only thing Nagato can do is push or pull on object. Get a piece of paper draw a circle then two smaller circles around it. On the two smaller circles draw a line through it and the center circle, arrows pointing to and from it. That's what you guys are saying BT is limited to.

with that diagram explain how a collision would occur at a pint which isn't that center circle.

This isn't hard, there's nothing complicated. The only conclusion is the rock wasn't going directly at Nagato.

Edit: I've even gone out of my way to use paint again. Notice the direction of the rock is following the yellow arrow, notice the direction isn't the same as the red which is towards Nagato.

 

[Draegod]

There's no fanboyism there, it's clear as day that Nagato throwing the rock into Naruto's course was not a push or pull motion with him at the center. If it's possible to make something collide then it's equally possible to make two objects go in a separate direction.

Bro arguing with uchiha fins is like talking to the dirt on the ground! You have to simply walk over it and let it stay there.. Being dirt in the first place!

Nagato/Madara/Tobi the only Rinnegan users never specified the Main pains tech (nor has the databook). And you clearly made sense (not saying they are wrong either).

Is it hard to believe he can do either or? Its the SO6P power were talking about! lol

And fyi to some ppl, Nagato can use Celestial TS At anypoint he chooses and throw it at what ever he chooses! If he throws it at you (opponent) you will be crushed! Nagatos limits have yet to be shown (madara aswell). So untill the databook comeout nothing is fact (unless that specific character said so by kishi; not he said she said (i.e: iruka says 3rd is the strongest...))

 

[Invsblphntm]

What do you consider as centre? During ST, there is a large dome outside Nagato that pushes the objects back. Apply that circular dome here as well. Ultimately, the circular area outside Nagato still counts as centre. Your trajectory is wrong again, as you have completely altered the perspective drawing of the page, when we have no idea, considering the placement of the perspective point that how far the boulder would have landed. The perceptive of the page is Naruto, which doesn't aligned with the centre of the image.

There is no "dome" when Nagato uses Shinra Tensei. You're clearly mistaken.

You're arguing a moot point anyway, Nagato used Bansho Ten'in on Naruto and the boulder at the same time. The boulder was going towards Naruto and NOT Nagato, clearly pointing at Nagato being able to choose his trajectory. Kakashi's observation was simply, Kakashi's observation. Nagato did not tell them, nor did anyone knowledgeable on Deva Path's ability.



The other example is the wood and the nail, proving that Nagato made it so the only thing he manipulated was the nail. The wood didn't move.

If he can make it so the wood doesn't get pulled, he can make it so he can only pull Itachi and not his Susano'o. And Gaara pulling Madara out of his Susano'o shows that he can do the same.

And the cherry on the cake is that even if by some ridiculous way that Itachi can somehow take his Susan'o with him, Nagato has Preta Path.




And at the end of the day, Nagato will destroy Itachi ridiculously easily.

 

[Midday]

Bro arguing with uchiha fins is like talking to the dirt on the ground! You have to simply walk over it and let it stay there.. Being dirt in the first place!

Nagato/Madara/Tobi the only Rinnegan users never specified the Main pains tech (nor has the databook). And you clearly made sense (not saying they are wrong either).

Is it hard to believe he can do either or? Its the SO6P power were talking about! lol

And fyi to some ppl, Nagato can use Celestial TS At anypoint he chooses and throw it at what ever he chooses! If he throws it at you (opponent) you will be crushed! Nagatos limits have yet to be shown (madara aswell). So untill the databook comeout nothing is fact (unless that specific character said so by kishi; not he said she said (i.e: iruka says 3rd is the strongest...))

That's what I feel like I've been doing for however long this has been going.

 

[shelke]

There is no "dome" when Nagato uses Shinra Tensei. You're clearly mistaken.

You're arguing a moot point anyway, Nagato used Bansho Ten'in on Naruto and the boulder at the same time. The boulder was going towards Naruto and NOT Nagato, clearly pointing at Nagato being able to choose his trajectory. Kakashi's observation was simply, Kakashi's observation. Nagato did not tell them, nor did anyone knowledgeable on Deva Path's ability.

The other example is the wood and the nail, proving that Nagato made it so the only thing he manipulated was the nail. The wood didn't move.

If he can make it so the wood doesn't get pulled, he can make it so he can only pull Itachi and not his Susano'o. And Gaara pulling Madara out of his Susano'o shows that he can do the same.

And the cherry on the cake is that even if by some ridiculous way that Itachi can somehow take his Susan'o with him, Nagato has Preta Path.

And at the end of the day, Nagato will destroy Itachi ridiculously easily.

There is clearly a dome surrounding Nagato when he deflects attacks that fall from all directions, which means it's counted as a centre. This dome isn't a literal interpretation, but a field of gravity which he alters to his needs either to attract objects, or push them back. Look here:

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- See the circular regions surrounding Nagato? This would also count as centres of ST. It depends upon how wide, or small this area of attraction or repulsion is, depending upon his reaction or how wide he wants it to be, as in case of Almighty Push, which is just an advanced form of ST.

Here, it is quite small -

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Look here:

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- Deva is standing slightly to the left, but, Kakashi is pulled at the Asura's sword which lies in a dome like pull/push area that surrounds him when he uses it.


@Midday Dude, your arrow is way off the actual path of the boulder. It's actually titled a bit upward. Come on. As I explained, it depends how large or small this dome of gravitation pull or push is. You cannot simply count Nagato without the area he utilizes as the attractive or repulsive zone or dome. That would make it the centre of this technique as well.

Here he uses ST:

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Nagato and the area of repulsion lie at the centre. Look at the dome-like repulsion area here:

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- it's much larger. See the circular crater under it:

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. This entire area would count as a centre, with Nagato as its epi-centre - the heart of both the techniques.

There is no mistaking here. You people are reading way too much into this.