[Discussion] The big question about the Senju

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So we know that senju was stronger than uchiha, like Hashirama said and we also know that the 2 of them, after years of conflicts, they finally made peace with Hashirama becoming the first hokage while Tobirama, his brother, the second.
So my question is this: how despite the fact that the 2 first hokages were senju, only Hashirama, Tobirama, Tsunade and Nawaki are known for living in Konoha while Uchiha which was supposed to be the inferior clan, managed to create a whole clan in Konoha which existed until recently? How the stronger clan between those 2 fade away while the leaders of the village were 2 times in a row Senju and yet only Uchiha is seen to have lived till the present as a fully developed clan?
Can someone answer this with a solid theory or post a page from the manga that actually verifies what he says?
 
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So we know that senju was stronger than uchiha, like Hashirama said and we also know that the 2 of them, after years of conflicts, they finally made peace with Hashirama becoming the first hokage while Tobirama, his brother, the second.
So my question is this: how despite the fact that the 2 first hokages were senju, only Hashirama, Tobirama, Tsunade and Nawaki are known for living in Konoha while Uchiha which was supposed to be the inferior clan, managed to create a whole clan in Konoha which existed until recently? How the stronger clan between those fade away while the leaders of the village were 2 times in row Senju and yet only Uchiha is seen to have lived till the present as a fully developed clan?
Can someone answer this with a solid theory?
This is a pretty good question.
 

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The uchiha were reluctant towards inter-clan marriages to preserve their blood line.On the other hand,senju weren't.Their leader himself married a woman from another clan.As time passed,the blood line thinned to the point that there is no full blooded senju left U_U
 

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Maybe it has something to do with them not trusting the Uchiha? Or perhaps they are all fodder and have nothing to do with the story. Considering how the Uchiha clan was wiped out and that was centric for one of the main characters development and the plot for the last parts of part one and most of part 2... we knew about the clan being there. OR the Senju interbreed with other clans and thus there were less and less pure Senju.

3 reasons to a very good question. Discuss amongst yourselves if you think otherwise.
 

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It's all a big mistery even by Narutoverse stanadards. I forget where in the manga, but I think one theory popped up that maybe the Senju didn't die out or vanish but either went into hiding or mixed DNA with other clans fizzling out pure Senju blood.

I don't have anyway to prove this though, so just a theory.
 

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The uchiha were reluctant towards inter-clan marriages to preserve their blood line.On the other hand,senju weren't.Their leader himself married a woman from another clan.As time passed,the blood line thinned to the point that there is no full blooded senju left U_U
You know this could be an answer but on the other hand it's still far-fetched that only so few people remained from the actual clan. And naruto was born from a Namikaze and Uzumaki but he retained all of the abilities of Uzumaki. So if that's the case then even the children that were born like that, some of them should have had Senju abilities.
 

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It's all a big mistery even by Narutoverse stanadards. I forget where in the manga, but I think one theory popped up that maybe the Senju didn't die out or vanish but either went into hiding or mixed DNA with other clans fizzling out pure Senju blood.

I don't have anyway to prove this though, so just a theory.
That would be interesting. If you remember where you saw this then post it here please.
 

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You know this could be an answer but on the other hand it's still far-fetched that only so few people remained from the actual clan. And naruto was born from a Namikaze and Uzumaki but he retained all of the abilities of Uzumaki. So if that's the case then even the children that were born like that, some of them should have had Senju abilities.
What are senju abilities in the first place???
We know nothing about the senju clan and their abilities in general.
 

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The Uchiha's were very strict. Only marry other Uchiha members and such.

Senju's married with other clan members.
Yeah but even if it's like that it's abnormal that only 5 characters are known for living in Konoha. And also even if it's like that then some children who have been in ths way should have some of senju capacities. Take for example Tsunade. She's the granddaughter of Hashirama senju and Mito uzumaki and she still has senju abilities. So how come nobody else as well?
 

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Maybe it has something to do with them not trusting the Uchiha? Or perhaps they are all fodder and have nothing to do with the story. Considering how the Uchiha clan was wiped out and that was centric for one of the main characters development and the plot for the last parts of part one and most of part 2... we knew about the clan being there. OR the Senju interbreed with other clans and thus there were less and less pure Senju.

3 reasons to a very good question. Discuss amongst yourselves if you think otherwise.
Well they are logical arguments but do you have even one page from the manga that can prove correct even one of them?
 

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What are senju abilities in the first place???
We know nothing about the senju clan and their abilities in general.
Ofc we know. I'm not going to talk about wood style because only Hashirama was able to use it but for example they have exceptionally strong bodies and this was shown by how easily Tobirama mangaged to break a wall which was next to him when he was revived for the second time and also Tsunade's monstrous power.
 
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Ofc we. I'm not going to talk about wood style because only Hashirama was able to use it but for example they have exceptionally strong bodies and this was shown by how easily Tobirama mangaged to break a wall which was next to him when he was revived for the second time and also Tsunade's monstrous power.
Ofc we know that they have strong bodies but the scale of their strength varies.Unlike the uchiha,we don't know any special ability that is unique only for the senju.And knowing only 3 senju doesn't help in any way.I think my argument earlier would be the most plausible scenario cuz a clan as powerful as the senju will not just disappear without a trace.
 
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