[Debate] Do you know the difference? Explain

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From my observation, the most disturbing characteristic of sociopaths is their ability to be charming. A person who can charm anyone appears as a "red flag" to me.

However, not every charming person is a sociopath, of course. And none among us is incapable of very hurtful/hateful behaviors.

So let me ask you: do you know the differences between a sociopath and a "normal" person?
 

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No i don't but I did do some research into this and a sociopath is someone who tries to fit in with the so called norm of society so it is quite hard to tell the difference
 

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you can always know the differences between a sociopath and an honest people by their act. and respond to things, Its like a rasta man and a regular dude putting on mop hair on their heads and trying to act jamerican, dont matter how much he acts, he could never fit in unless he grew as a child around rasta people and its natural to him! :I
 

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Jamerican is white people trying to fit themselves in everything and is trying to be rasta :)
 

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It's very difficult because sociopaths are the best manipulators out there. They can say/do anything with a straight face.
You should just focus on what YOU do. If you catch yourself doing something just for their sake, then you are manipulated.
 

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If being able to fake stuff makes you a sociopath, then... You know where I'm going with this =D

I can't say I've ever met a sociopath, so either I just haven't or he/she was that good.
 

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..... Why hate on the sociopaths .... :| ? What is the definition of one again XD ? Has it changed recently in terms of slang or what :3
 

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Are we assuming that sociopathic and psychopathic behavior are synonymous? Typically sociopaths are characterized by extreme antisocial tendencies, and sociopathic behavior can be triggered by early trauma whereas people with psychopathic tendencies are assumed to be born that way. In any case, I don't think every sociopath is a pathological liar, and most are actually awkward in social situations. So I'm not sure where you got this whole 'charming' thing from.


..... Why hate on the sociopaths .... :| ? What is the definition of one again XD ? Has it changed recently in terms of slang or what :3

A sociopath is someone who can, in fact, demonstrate psychopathic behavior. They are distinctly known for extreme antisocial tendencies and a possible lack of a moral compass.
 

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Are we assuming that sociopathic and psychopathic behavior are synonymous? Typically sociopaths are characterized by extreme antisocial tendencies, and sociopathic behavior can be triggered by early trauma whereas people with psychopathic tendencies are assumed to be born that way. In any case, I don't think every sociopath is a pathological liar, and most are actually awkward in social situations. So I'm not sure where you got this whole 'charming' thing from.

It depends on the sociopath and what the social situation is ._. everyone has their awkward moments :D !
 

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It depends on the sociopath and what the social situation is ._. everyone has their awkward moments :D !

I didn't say that wasn't true. But I don't think every sociopath is born with the ability to charm others. Similarly, not every "normal" person is born with the ability to charm others.
 

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I didn't say that wasn't true. But I don't think every sociopath is born with the ability to charm others. Similarly, not every "normal" person is born with the ability to charm others.

You never know :yayy: ! practice makes perfect
 

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Are we assuming that sociopathic and psychopathic behavior are synonymous? Typically sociopaths are characterized by extreme antisocial tendencies, and sociopathic behavior can be triggered by early trauma whereas people with psychopathic tendencies are assumed to be born that way. In any case, I don't think every sociopath is a pathological liar, and most are actually awkward in social situations. So I'm not sure where you got this whole 'charming' thing from.




A sociopath is someone who can, in fact, demonstrate psychopathic behavior. They are distinctly known for extreme antisocial tendencies and a possible lack of a moral compass.

The OP is talking about psychological manipulation. Charming others to use them in a profitable way is a method of manipulation.

But you are right, that's psychopathic not necessarily sociopathic bahaviour.
 

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I love that about some psychopaths. I believe those are the most evil/insane/twisted. I love reading & writing characters like that.
 

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The OP is talking about psychological manipulation. Charming others to use them in a profitable way is a method of manipulation.

But you are right, that's psychopathic not necessarily sociopathic bahaviour.

Oh, so the definition hasn't changed ..... Why does everyone seem to dislike sociopaths in this thread ... ?
Having the ability to manipulate someone in such a way isn't bad, as long as it isn't taken too far ....
 

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Oh, so the definition hasn't changed ..... Why does everyone seem to dislike sociopaths in this thread ... ?
Having the ability to manipulate someone in such a way isn't bad, as long as it isn't taken too far ....

Who told you that lie? I love them! I am one of them to be honest that's why =D Muahahahaha :cool:
 

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The OP is talking about psychological manipulation. Charming others to use them in a profitable way is a method of manipulation.

But you are right, that's psychopathic not necessarily sociopathic bahaviour.

I understand that's what he was talking about, I just don't think it's a quality that all sociopaths possess.

Oh, so the definition hasn't changed ..... Why does everyone seem to dislike sociopaths in this thread ... ?
Having the ability to manipulate someone in such a way isn't bad, as long as it isn't taken too far ....

If they're manipulative on a sociopathic scale, they've already taken it too far.
 

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If they're manipulative on a sociopathic scale, they've already taken it too far.

If I possess the ability to do something I should not be hated for having that ability :rage:
Many people are capable of murder, doesn't mean they all go and commit it !
 

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I understand that's what he was talking about, I just don't think it's a quality that all sociopaths possess.

Of course not. Only a very specific type of them.

Off-topic : Why the hell is Naruto kissing Gaara with such passion?!?! :p
 

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Of course not. Only a very specific type of them.

Off-topic : Why the hell is Naruto kissing Gaara with such passion?!?! :p

Agreed. ^.^ And to answer one of the questions OP asked, I'm not sure I would know the difference. Some liars can be very convincing.

And to answer your question . . .because I ship Gaaruto (Aka Narugaa, but that just sounds stupid), that's why. :|
 

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From my observation, the most disturbing characteristic of sociopaths is their ability to be charming. A person who can charm anyone appears as a "red flag" to me.

However, not every charming person is a sociopath, of course. And none among us is incapable of very hurtful/hateful behaviors.

So let me ask you: do you know the differences between a sociopath and a "normal" person?

Intelligence.

Any intelligent person who is also able to charm a wide variety of people is of the same mental breed as a sociopath. The question is merely how they prey upon others.

People like myself do not relish in physical harm or abuse (unless we find the individual particularly revolting); but are going to be quite manipulative in social and mental arenas. That doesn't mean that we are out to -harm- people, or that we are necessarily going to benefit from the exchange - but that we are going to deliberately attempt to engineer the behavior of others in the manner we choose.

That is, in essence, sociopathic behavior; even if it is generally benign.

The people who can charm a wide variety of people without the above are, generally speaking, adorable dolts that others do not feel threatened by.

That's not necessarily to say that 'normal' people are exceptionally different (they will manipulate where they can) - but those with higher intelligence and/or social savvy will be far more successful across the general population. Thus, it will become a more central part of their behavior where others use it more selectively.
 
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