(Tsunade) she knows FTG

[NArutouzzi]

i lol'ed at this thread.... We for one have never seen minato and tsunade interact even in flashbacks or anything, also minato is a genius he can figure out things on his own and develop techs. Yea he might have gotten the idea from the 2nd but that does not mean that the 2nd passed it to tsunade. Minato simply researched this tech from the 2nd nd made it his own with a few modifications which made it better.

 

[OcularProwess]

is this what narutobase has turned into

 

[PlanetaryRasengan]

Tsunade didn't use lightning release buddy... she used a sharp needle like chakra and hit Kabuto on the spine. That chakra disrupted all of the ELECTRICAL signals going to Kabuto's brain. No lightning release was used.

 

[PrettyFlacko]

Lmfao, this is rich.

 

[CONTE]

this is BS

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Sakura-hate threads and troll threads live the longest

 

[5pace time continuum]

5. Tobirama is better than Minato at FTG, with the soul reason being that he did not need to use a seal in order to use it. He simply did it, he was not confined by the location of seals. In that sense, his use is just like Kamui's, except without the ability to locate where anyone is, which is what makes his space time ninjutsu inferior. Thus, with the same ability minus the restriction that Minato has, we can say that Tobirama's is better.

kthxbai

Your stupidty has gotten out of hand lol...

Do you even understand in the Narutoverse, that all jutsu's are taken from the predecessors and improved upon?

Examples.

- Naruto completed the final Rasengan through adding his natural affinity (Wind). Former user: Minato

- Sasuke knows how to use Amterasu better than Itachi and made his own affinity of Inferno/Blaze Release out of it and can control flames a lot easier. Former User: Itachi

- Orochimaru and Kabuto has taken Tobirama's incomplete Edo Tensei through using sacrificed bodies to revive died bodies.

- Minato has taken FTG the next level and made it better. His FTG allow's him to derive the techniques of FTG into like flying rajin and space-time barrier (the one where he warped the Tailed beast bomb and Kurama out of the village. He has certainly taken it to the next level and Tobirama is unique for his mastery his water release ninjitsu... Minato's FTG is better than Tobirama's.

 

[Shoton]

no she doesnt have FTG. She has a lot potential of having tons of really good jutsus.... But apparently Kishi doesnt want to give her them.

If she had FTG, she would be a insanely overpowered ninja (not that there arent any already). But imagine having it and combining it with her crazy brutal strength.....

 

[MasterofSenjutsu]

Do you even understand in the Narutoverse, that all jutsu's are taken from the predecessors and improved upon?

That is not always true. I don't believe the current tsuchikage is better at Dust Release than Muu is. And there are many other instances where the predecessors of a certain jutsu is better than the person. Tsukuyomi. We all know that Itachi's is better than Sasuke's. Madara's Susanno far preceeds Sasuke's and Itachi's.

I do agree when you say that Minato has taken FTG to the next level. But I believe the guy was talking about the base move itself, and not the derived versions of the jutsu. If we went by that, I think he's saying Tobirama is better than Minato. And I think a very convincing argument could be made for that.

 

[ThePathFinder]

you two are just playing deniable XD

she said she will save FTG for him (madara) and when she said (we) she meant ,she needs raikage to help since she didn't master it like minato .

finally i convinced you then my mission is finished here :flowers

You slightly anger me.

 

[Kyno]

Your stupidty has gotten out of hand lol...

Do you even understand in the Narutoverse, that all jutsu's are taken from the predecessors and improved upon?

Examples.

- Naruto completed the final Rasengan through adding his natural affinity (Wind). Former user: Minato

- Sasuke knows how to use Amterasu better than Itachi and made his own affinity of Inferno/Blaze Release out of it and can control flames a lot easier. Former User: Itachi

- Orochimaru and Kabuto has taken Tobirama's incomplete Edo Tensei through using sacrificed bodies to revive died bodies.

- Minato has taken FTG the next level and made it better. His FTG allow's him to derive the techniques of FTG into like flying rajin and space-time barrier (the one where he warped the Tailed beast bomb and Kurama out of the village. He has certainly taken it to the next level and Tobirama is unique for his mastery his water release ninjitsu... Minato's FTG is better than Tobirama's.

"That is not always true. I don't believe the current tsuchikage is better at Dust Release than Muu is. And there are many other instances where the predecessors of a certain jutsu is better than the person. Tsukuyomi. We all know that Itachi's is better than Sasuke's. Madara's Susanno far preceeds Sasuke's and Itachi's.

I do agree when you say that Minato has taken FTG to the next level. But I believe the guy was talking about the base move itself, and not the derived versions of the jutsu. If we went by that, I think he's saying Tobirama is better than Minato. And I think a very convincing argument could be made for that." -MasterofSenjutsu

So yea, that, and your logic is baseless. For every example you give there is an example of exactly the opposite. The first example is the tsuchi/muu example. The other, is Itachi's Tsukuyomi compared to sasuke's. Yes, Sasuke is better than Itachi at ama, but Itachi is equally better at tsukuyomi. Minato was trying to complete the jutsu by adding his own affinity, but he died when he was really young, so He didn't live long enough to do it, because it takes a long time to do it. Considering how much naruto trained for it, and multiplying that time by how many hundreds or thousands of shadow clones he used, and then factoring in that he is part uzumaki and has so much more chakra, that means it would take years and years for Minato to master the technique infusing his affinity element, so time is the only reason he wasn't able to do it. Had he lived longer, he would have done it, and Naruto wouldn't have anything to build off of. Your logic is indirect, you can't prove something using unrelated scenario's, especially when your thesis on it is wrong.

As for Minato being better, because he has taken it to the "next level", that is a reasonable point. However I disagree. The fact that when Tobirama uses his jutsu, he does not need a tag, leads me to conclude the following: He can use all Flying Thunder God techniques, just without the tag. Because he is able to instantly teleport without the tag, that is using the base jutsu, Flying Thunder God (Or Flying Rajin as you call it) and then just finishing it with a slice. If he can do that without a tag, there is no reason to believe that he can't use space-time barrier without a tag. Jut as minato changes the seal to teleport other things away instead of himself, Tobirama should be able to, because he is not restricted by the seal, simply create the field around him, weaving the same hand seals but without requiring the seal to be present. This gives him a slight advantage over minato, because if minato runs out of kunai he can't dio it, while theoretically Tobirama can do it whenever. Even excluding Space-Time barrier, because we haven't ssen it done in a canon setting, Tobirama's FTG still outclasses Minato's, because he is not restricted to kunai placement. The simple fact that Tobirama can teleport anywhere, whereas Minato can only teleport to where he has placed a kunai, makes it almost infinitely better as a jutsu itself. Yes, Minato himself can use this just as effectively, o the point where he might as well be able to teleport anywhere, but excluding the jutsu from it's user, Tobirama's FTG is just better. Complete freedom is always better than restricted options.

 

[FatalChakra]

How do you know she really has it??

 

[Touken]

wat

Why the heck is this thread still going? She's had no feats to prove it and the logic behind the theory is really silly too.

 

[Kyno]

- Minato has taken FTG the next level and made it better. His FTG allow's him to derive the techniques of FTG into like flying rajin and space-time barrier (the one where he warped the Tailed beast bomb and Kurama out of the village. He has certainly taken it to the next level and Tobirama is unique for his mastery his water release ninjitsu... Minato's FTG is better than Tobirama's.

By the way, You just said he derived FTG into flying rajin and space-time barrier... Flying Rajin and Flying Thunder God are the same thing. Rajin I believe is japanese for Thunder God. So, who's stupidity has gotten out of hand now?

1. It is most probable, even though there is no way I can prove it, that Tobirama can using Space-Time seal, so if my hypothesis is right (in last post) then you have literally no argument against Tobirama.

2. Again, even if he can't use space time barrier, being able to teleport anywhere is the better end of the deal than being able to teleport to where your kunai is. Tobirama could teleport inside of Minato's Space-Time barrier, thus rendering it useless. Outside of pitting them against each other, Space time barrier is only better when you are trying to protect someone or something. In any 1v1 situation, or any 2v2, or anything for every day ninja use, the ability to teleport anywhere will always be better than the ability to only be able to teleport to preset points.

 

[Lordofd100x]

FTG is a technique which allows the user to transport themselves to a given location in the blink of an eye.

don't ever think that minato learned by himself because,

FTG is senju jutsu and tobirama found this jutsu and he taught it to tsunade and she passed it to minato.

if someone wonder why she didn't use it against madara , i would say that she was busy healing the kages and fighting at same time and if she was alone then she will use it definitively against madara.

tsunade is senju and she also knows lighting release so definitely she knows FTG from her uncle tobirama

proof: she can do it only one time in fight and she told raikage she will save it against madara .

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She mentioned the ftg technique to transport the raikage or naruto because she said 'Him' and she didnt say she could use it herself.

 

[ogilvan]

hmm this is incredible stupid you say we have to sheck out naruto wikia on if tsunade has or doesn't have raiton , well I checked but naruto wikia also said she doesn't have FTG go look at naruto wikia yourself first before you say completely stupid things you make yourself look very smart. (sarcasm)
P.S : thanks for wasting 5 minutes -_-

 

[Priyam Bhowmick]

i voted for her too because i believe she can do it



who told u that it doesn't need huge chakra ?
genma told mei that it needs huge chakra that's why he let other jounin helped him to transform mei to madara place.


she know it , she's senju and her uncle who found this jutsu beside she's specialist in lighting release.


read naruto wiki

U just can't jump to conclusions. We have never seen her ever use ftg. Minato could also have learned it frm someone else or maybe he made his own version of ftg. Kishi just might nt have thought of it. I only will believe in definite proofs nd nt assumptions.

Even if I cn consider that Tsunade cn use ftg(supposing), then I don't know what makes her the best ftg user. The fact that she never used it could mean she was nt so good at it. Also Minato is the.fastest ninja ever so definitely he is the best in ftg and we have seen so.

Also I agree that ftg doesn't need much chakra though it may vary from person to person according to their chakra control in that jutsu. Maybe Genma told Mei so bcuz it was a large distance teleportation whereas against Madara she would nt have required such a long teleportation.

As u say I went through the wiki. Body Pathway Derangement is presumed to be a lightning technique by what it looks like. But it's nt proved. I thnk it's a medical ninjutsu requiring low level lighting traces. So that's may nt be a very advanced raiton Tec. She has never otherwise used raiton techniques. That means she is not a high level raiton user. She is just a powerhouse of strength and a high lvl. medic ninja.


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[stRunF]

The 3 'guards' Minato had could use it, and you're totally wrong.
By "save it for later" she meant that THEY'LL save it for later, probably to teleport them back.

 

[Ndavson]

Tonirama is not an uncle of Tsunade. He is still a grandfather of Tsunade since Hashirama is Tobirama's brother.

Tobirama is tsunade great uncle not grandfather -.- if you grandfather has a brother that does not make him your grandfather also that would only be obtainable tru incest.

 

[kamizon]

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