Obito was Frightened of Itachi (Kishimoto's Hints)

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His attitude to madara:
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If the guy isnt scared of Madara: the strongest uchiha in history with rinnegan.. why would he be scared of Itachi who is not capable of even a quarter of what Madara can do.

Clearly he's talking about Pre rinnegan tobi...
 

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obito promised itachi that he wouldn't harm konoha he wasn't scared of him
 

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obito promised itachi that he wouldn't harm konoha he wasn't scared of him

That's not how promises work.

If I promised you that I wouldn't plow your mother where only the Byakugan can see,

but then did it after you died...

Then it wasn't because of a promise.

It was because I didn't want you to kick the shit out of me.
 

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I never said he was worried about that lol.

You said "because Obito would just teleport away". But itachi didn't know about that so how can that be a reason as to why he wouldn't just fight him and kill him. Don't get me wrong dude my vote would go to Itachi if he fought pre-rinnegan Obito. Minato figured him out so I don't see why the Hokage kid Itachi couldn't have.

But I don't think Obito was afraid of him either. Otherwise he wouldn't have even let him get that close. Plus he knew that Itachi was really a good guy and that he wasn't really down with the Akatsuki cause or destroying the leaf. So he must've known that Itachi had the potential to betray him at some point. If he were that afraid of Itachi he wouldn't have even let him be apart of the group in the first place. He would've just had the akatsuki help him kill Itachi if he thought he posed that big of threat. They were clearly cautious of each other. That's why they never fought. They worked for the same group they didn't really keep a great deal of distance from one another
 

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Amaterasu is a material flame.. When it burns and obito phases..it cannot cross dimensions which is how I though he escaped Itachi's failsafe and Tsukyomi can be broken by a pure uchiha with a sharingan not even requiring MS.

What is it that makes Obito scared of Itachi apart from Itachi jeopardizing the moon eye by revealing all his plans, hideouts etc to the 5 great nations? I think his words can have various meaning no essentially meaning fear of his power or intelligence.
 

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Obito's arsenal:

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His attitude to madara:
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If the guy isnt scared of Madara: the strongest uchiha in history with rinnegan.. why would he be scared of Itachi who is not capable of even a quarter of what Madara can do.


well here is where you go wrong... this is the page you used...
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sure it is clear that Itachi praises the real Madara, but now the point that he isnt afraid of Obito
the page the OP used... this is a chapter after he explained who madara is to sasuke.
clearly he though Obito was pathetic because he was nothing compare to Madara
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to be more specific of who itachi thinks is powerfull and who he knows he can defeat.
 

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If itachi was stronger than obito why didn't he killed him?
 

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If itachi was stronger than obito why didn't he killed him?

plot no jutsu saves the day, Why didn't Kakashi Stab Obito instead of punching him in the gut?, How the hell did Sasuke defeat Danzo?, and Why did Obito not take back his eyes after he killed those ninjas?
 

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well here is where you go wrong... this is the page you used...
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sure it is clear that Itachi praises the real Madara, but now the point that he isnt afraid of Obito
the page the OP used... this is a chapter after he explained who madara is to sasuke.
clearly he though Obito was pathetic because he was nothing compare to Madara
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the images are from chapter here

and here


to be more specific of who itachi thinks is powerfull and who he knows he can defeat.

You probably shouldn't have posted that last picture because I never realized it but in that same speech by Itachi that you and OP used Itachi says "The only person that can surpass him" is me. Since he said can surpass him that means he hadn't surpassed him yet. Which says that Itachi thought that even the current Obito was better than him. He even goes on to say that the time to take his prize (Sasuke's eyes) and gain better power than Obito had finally arrived. Again saying that currently he was weaker than Obito. That pretty much solos OPs argument

But I think this entire speech was simply to deceive Sasuke. But it's too late now since OP already tried to use this speech as evidence. So if we are supposed to take the first part of it as canon and not just a lie, we have to do the same for the second part

**Edit** LOL in fact now that I think about it OP didn't even post the entire page. He left that part out probably on purpose because he knew it would contradict his entire argument
 
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well here is where you go wrong... this is the page you used...
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sure it is clear that Itachi praises the real Madara, but now the point that he isnt afraid of Obito
the page the OP used... this is a chapter after he explained who madara is to sasuke.
clearly he though Obito was pathetic because he was nothing compare to Madara
You must be registered for see images


the images are from chapter here

and here


to be more specific of who itachi thinks is powerfull and who he knows he can defeat.


ive been corrected on this but my point was that if Itachi praises the real Madara as invincible and Obito disrespects him face to face.. we can assume that he couldn't have been too scared of Itachi but I realise it was circumstantial now.

Read this response :
 

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obito promised itachi that he wouldn't harm konoha he wasn't scared of him

promise?

then why after itachis death?
if itachi and obito had a deal i bet itachi will prolong his life

so the attack wont happen early
 

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You probably shouldn't have posted that last picture because I never realized it but in that same speech by Itachi that you and OP used Itachi says "The only person that can surpass him" is me. Since he said can surpass him that means he hadn't surpassed him yet. Which says that Itachi thought that even the current Obito was better than him. He even goes on to say that the time to take his prize (Sasuke's eyes) and gain better power than Obito had finally arrived. Again saying that currently he was weaker than Obito. That pretty much solos OPs argument


But I think this entire speech was simply to deceive Sasuke. But it's too late now since OP already tried to use this speech as evidence. So if we are supposed to take the first part of it as canon and not just a lie, we have to do the same for the second part

lol well 2 can play at this game... he clearly states the "Invincible Madara" reffering to the Pre-Pwned Madara and not Obito.
 

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lol well 2 can play at this game... he clearly states the "Invincible Madara" reffering to the Pre-Pwned Madara and not Obito.

Nope go back and look at the page you yourself provided. He calls Madara (who he thought was Obito) a shell of his former self and says he isn't worthy of being called the greatest Uchiha anymore. This effectively shifted attention towards current Obito, not the Invinsible one that he was hyping earlier. Then after saying that he isn't worthy of being called the greatest Uchiha anymore, he then goes on to say that he's the only one who can surpass him and then says that time for him to finally gain greater power than him is now. Which means he thought current Obito was stronger than him, but not as strong as he used to be and weak enough to be surpassed once Itachi gained Sasuke's eyes
 

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Nope go back and look at the page you yourself provided. He calls Madara (who he thought was Obito) a shell of his former self and says he isn't worthy of being called the greatest Uchiha anymore. This effectively shifted attention towards current Obito, not the Invinsible one that he was hyping earlier. Then after saying that he isn't worthy of being called the greatest Uchiha anymore, he then goes on to say that he's the only one who can surpass him and then says that time for him to finally gain greater power than him is now. Which means he thought current Obito was stronger than him, but not as strong as he used to be and weak enough to be surpassed once Itachi gained Sasuke's eyes

have you not understand?itachi is talking about what madaras power has done and his going to surpass it
 

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Nope go back and look at the page you yourself provided. He calls Madara (who he thought was Obito) a shell of his former self and says he isn't worthy of being called the greatest Uchiha anymore. This effectively shifted attention towards current Obito, not the Invinsible one that he was hyping earlier. Then after saying that he isn't worthy of being called the greatest Uchiha anymore, he then goes on to say that he's the only one who can surpass him and then says that time for him to finally gain greater power than him is now. Which means he thought current Obito was stronger than him, but not as strong as he used to be and weak enough to be surpassed once Itachi gained Sasuke's eyes

clearly you dont understand, no matter how you read that page, he clearly says Madara was better before he got owned by the 1st, now he sucks, then he said he will surpass.... (drum roll please) "The Invincible Madara" not the downgraded shell motorless rolling cage that is Obito.
 

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have you not understand?itachi is talking about what madaras power has done and his going to surpass it

"The only one that can surpass HIM. Not the only one that can surpass his power.
 
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