Itachi is physically faster than minato

[closecombat22]

he didnt jump that ....... even if he was insanly retarded fast he cant jump that far and that fast, physics wouldnt allowit.. if he jumped up terminal velocity would still not be fast enough for an above landing... and if he jumped straight out he wouldnt be able to stop at such speeds




they all were at udons level

you just mad because minato doing your MOM aint U

 

[Bogard]

Doesnt matter the kunai appears behind Ay due to combined speed as some time has passed. The pathetic one of that kunai and pretty fast of the Ay. Minato only gave some impulse upwards to that kunai.
But fans dig to much into anime and think its canon, then try to use it as valid argument.

Or you're simply in denial. That's why you call all the one who work hardly to product anime fools?

think he's refering to the speed of the kunai and comparing it to ay's speed

I see nothing weird concerning the speed of the kunai that i didn't mention in my post. I didn't say A didn't get pass the kunai. I said he didn't completely pass the kunai, 2 things different, and it's what happened, except the guy is in denial and don't want to admit he was wrong

 

[ThatGuyOvaThere]

Minato has no speed, he teleports.. Itachi is faster physically but Minato is quicker than him only with his teleportation.

This guy knows what he's talking about

 

[Itachi Minato]

Doesnt matter the kunai appears behind Ay due to combined speed as some time has passed. The pathetic one of that kunai and pretty fast of the Ay. Minato only gave some impulse upwards to that kunai.
But fans dig to much into anime and think its canon, then try to use it as valid argument.

I cant believe you are arguing against this. You are so clearly wrong. OT we have seen one miniscule of minato compared to itachi so why do there threads happen.

 

[UchiGod Itachi]

That's called shunshin no jutsu, something that every ninja uses. Only that people like Minato or Raikage were more known for it. Btw what were you saying concerning Bee?

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and yet not a single scratch given lol fail

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[Bogard]

and yet not a single scratch given lol fail

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He was still pushed back which already shows your statement was wrong and that it's infact the contrary

 

[AlphaScythian]

Or you're simply in denial. That's why you call all the one who work hardly to product anime fools?

What denial? The hell ur talking about?
Minato is just human with no KKG or w/e to make his reaction speed off the charts. He is fast? Yes he is. Faster physically then guy, A, itachi, or obito? Nothing suggest that.
Does he have Sharingan to react better? No
Does he have SM for better perception? No
Does he have raiton reflexes? No
So in essence he cannot react to anything that sharingan, SM or raiton cant react at same distance.
His hyped speed comes from FTG. Stop adding other crap to it.

 

[HadouKage]

What denial? The hell ur talking about?
Minato is just human with no KKG or w/e to make his reaction speed off the charts. He is fast? Yes he is. Faster physically then guy, A, itachi, or obito? Nothing suggest that.
Does he have Sharingan to react better? No
Does he have SM for better perception? No
Does he have raiton reflexes? No
So in essence he cannot react to anything that sharingan, SM or raiton cant react at same distance.
His hyped speed comes from FTG. Stop adding other crap to it.

How does he speed only derive from FTG when it's been proven several times that it doesn't? FTG doesn't throw the kunai, it takes incredibly fast reflexes do so. You are in denial, Minato > Itachi in base

 

[Bogard]

What denial? The hell ur talking about?
Minato is just human with no KKG or w/e to make his reaction speed off the charts. He is fast? Yes he is. Faster physically then guy, A, itachi, or obito? Nothing suggest that.
Does he have Sharingan to react better? No
Does he have SM for better perception? No
Does he have raiton reflexes? No
So in essence he cannot react to anything that sharingan, SM or raiton cant react at same distance.
His hyped speed comes from FTG. Stop adding other crap to it.

His reflexes are simply unparalleled as stated in the manga, above that of Itachi or Sasuke, only that you're too much in denial that you refuse to accept mangafacts. That's why you say that anime is wrong. Stop posting craps when everything prove you're wrong

 

[AlphaScythian]

His reflexes are simply unparalleled as stated in the manga, above that of Itachi or Sasuke, only that you're too much in denial that you refuse to accept mangafacts. That's why you say that anime is wrong. Stop posting craps when everything prove you're wrong

Unparalleled to whom? Manga also stated hiruzen was god of shinobi. He has no base behind his reflexes. He can have usual 5 speed stat for kage lvl + shinsun on top and FTG is what makes him fastest. But his base or physical speed is bested by several shinobis.

How does he speed only derive from FTG when it's been proven several times that it doesn't? FTG doesn't throw the kunai, it takes incredibly fast reflexes do so. You are in denial, Minato > Itachi in base

What it takes incredible reflexes to throw kunais?

 

[johnnyindigo]

Please stop thisnonsense
Minato is physically faster

 

[Bogard]

Unparalleled to whom? Manga also stated hiruzen was god of shinobi. He has no base behind his reflexes. He can have usual 5 speed stat for kage lvl + shinsun on top and FTG is what makes him fastest. But his base or physical speed is bested by several shinobis.

Just because you said this? Again giving baseless assumptions? What is your proof? I already proved you and this thread wrong. I'll just repost what i already said.

Let's see about this U_U

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Look carefully at these pics. You will notice on the first pic at the red part i draw, that after catching Naruto almost crushed by Obito mid air with Shunshun blitz, explosiv tags were already about to explode. But Minato not only managed to remove the explosiv tag really quickly while it was exploding, but

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, threw the explosiv tags in the shack and got out of it all that before it even exploded.

So while the explosiv tags were about to explode, he did 4moves(removing the tag, teleporting in the shack, throwing the tags, and going out of the shack) before it actually blew up

Kyubi almost crushing Kushina:

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Again, look at this pic. Minato is not even there at that moment, and Kyubi is almost crushing Kushina with his large hands, so there was practically no way for Kushina to avoid it, but here

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notice that Minato not only managed to teleport near Kushina in an instant, but also took her and avoided Kyubis large hands before Kyubis hand(that was already near crushing her) even manage to land a hit on her

Here again, he did 3moves in an instant(teleporting near Kushina, holding her and avoid Kyubis large hand)

During the "fight" against Obito, Obito was attacking him from behind in a surprise attack, and was about to warp him with Kamui like you can see on this pic:

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But Minato not even knowing what was happening at that moment, managed to get out of it in an instant very quickly

On this pic:

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You can see the chain are almost restraining him, but in an instant he disappeared and appeared on another location(notice the great question mark on Obito)

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Against Kyubis TBB:

TBB is something that Kyubi can launch really quickly like he already even did

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, but on this pic:

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Look where Minato was when Kyubi was about to launch another TBB(he was outside the village far from Kyubi), but in an instant, he not only manage to reach him, but also summon Gamabunta on him with food cart destroyer to immobilise him some times, and as if it was not finished, after that on these pics:

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notice on the first pic that the TBB was already about to explode(which even exploded on the second pic), but on the third one, Minato had enough time not only to teleport where Kushina and Naruto were, but also took and save them from the explosion and get somewhere else

So while Kyubi was launching his TBB, and eventhough he was far from him from the start, he did 5 or 6moves(reaching him with quick Shunshin blitz, summon Gamabunta with Food Cart destroyer, teleport himself with the Kyubi where Kushina and Naruto were, take and save them from the explosion by going somewhere else)

What made Minato dangerous is his combo reflexes, body speed and FTG, which made him practically untouchable and it's what people usually fail to realise. How can you touch someone who can do 3 or 4moves in an instant? It's the reason behind his nickname. He had one of the best Shunshin ever, the greatest reflexes ever, and even his body speed was just on another level

That's why i believe that Minatos reflexes are on a level on their own. No one(Naruto included) has shown such haxx reflexes in NV, no one has shown to be able to do all what Minato can do in an instant

In the contrary of you, i don't brag out for nothing. I can back up my statements with feats

 

[HadouKage]

Unparalleled to whom? Manga also stated hiruzen was god of shinobi. He has no base behind his reflexes. He can have usual 5 speed stat for kage lvl + shinsun on top and FTG is what makes him fastest. But his base or physical speed is bested by several shinobis.

What it takes incredible reflexes to throw kunais?

I'm obviously referring to Minato's situation with A. A is the 3rd fastest nin in the NV and was fast enough to avoid Ama (which is one of the fastest jutsu in NV). It takes incredible reflexes to do what he did against A

 

[AlphaScythian]

I'm obviously referring to Minato's situation with A. A is the 3rd fastest nin in the NV and was fast enough to avoid Ama (which is one of the fastest jutsu in NV). It takes incredible reflexes to do what he did against A

And why dont u take into account that he just had enough distance to barely avoid A?
Cuz as i stated above, sasuke couldnt track A with his sharingan at close range, the only valid explanation for minato react in time is enough distance as he has nothing special and surely his visual perception isnt on par with MS.
Or u gonna defy bold part?
How about KCM naruto that has beaten A in speed and itachi could go head to head with his taijutsu? A feat minato was never capable off.

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

The only one faster than Ei was Minato.

That means Itachi is slower than Minato.

 

[AlphaScythian]

The only one faster than Ei was Minato.
That means Itachi is slower than Minato.

That what A said until he faced KCM naruto. Then KCM naruto faced itachi lol

 

[HadouKage]

And why dont u take into account that he just had enough distance to barely avoid A?
Cuz as i stated above, sasuke couldnt track A with his sharingan at close range, the only valid explanation for minato react in time is enough distance as he has nothing special and surely his visual perception isnt on par with MS.
Or u gonna defy bold part?
How about KCM naruto that has beaten A in speed and itachi could go head to head with his taijutsu? A feat minato was never capable off.

1. What does it matter? He did it, A was arguably the second fastest ninja at the time. Whether he barely did or not is not important as he dodged one of the fastest ninjas of that time

2. Not debating about Sasuke right now, I was just making a speed comparison to Ama so you can get an idea how fast A was.

3. Never stated his visual perception was on par, don't argue with manga facts, Minato's feat in reaction speed is top (if not the best)

4. How does that provide any relevance to the thread? And how can you provide this when it is incapable of Minato showing this feat as Kishi hasn't done so? Bogard is right, all you're making is baseless assumptions

 

[UltimateDeadpool]

That what A said until he faced KCM naruto. Then KCM naruto faced itachi lol

Naruto only has super speed when using Body Flicker. Ei denied all of Naruto's attempts to flee using lvl.1 Ligntning Armor, it wasn't until he used lvl.2 and went for an attack that Naruto used Body Flicker to get past him. The Naruto that encountered Edo Itachi never used Body Flicker.

Also, Naruto had just divided Kurama's chakra, and Bijuu chakra = power. So Naruto only had 1/12th of his normal power.

Naruto also wasn't fighting to win on top of that. He wanted to talk to Itachi, otherwise his strikes would had destroyed Itachi. Ei's punches are strong enough shatterSasuke's arms and to kill a person with a direct hit, and Naruto is easily as strong or stronger. He was pulling his punches against Itachi.

 

[Bogard]

And why dont u take into account that he just had enough distance to barely avoid A?
Cuz as i stated above, sasuke couldnt track A with his sharingan at close range, the only valid explanation for minato react in time is enough distance as he has nothing special and surely his visual perception isnt on par with MS.
Or u gonna defy bold part?
How about KCM naruto that has beaten A in speed and itachi could go head to head with his taijutsu? A feat minato was never capable off.

Please, please lets argue logically, will you?
1- I already proved you that Minato didn't barely dodge A. He dodged him easily. Actually it was A the one who couldn't keep up. Do you want me to bring that paragraph again?

2- Naruto never defeated A. He only dodged a punch. Doesn't mean he is that faster than A. Proof of that, is that before the last punch, we even saw A manhandling both Naruto and Bee

3- The Naruto who fought Itachi was totally different than the one against A, since the one against Itachi already used more than 20kage bunshins, so shared his chakra in more than 20clones. In order words, that Naruto was far from at his full power. Not even mentioning the fact that Naruto was only trying to talk with Itachi, not defeat him

 

[AlphaScythian]

1. What does it matter? He did it, A was arguably the second fastest ninja at the time. Whether he barely did or not is not important as he dodged one of the fastest ninjas of that time

At that time is crucial word here.

2. Not debating about Sasuke right now, I was just making a speed comparison to Ama so you can get an idea how fast A was.

And im not comparing sasuke, all im saying he obviously reacted to A due to larger distance, in place of sasuke he would be ****ed.

3. Never stated his visual perception was on par, don't argue with manga facts, Minato's feat in reaction speed is top (if not the best)

Hardly. Obito managed to save sasuke from jinton in 0,00001 of a second lol. Also obito can freely dodge and fight BM naruto that speed wise has surpassed minato

4. How does that provide any relevance to the thread? And how can you provide this when it is incapable of Minato showing this feat as Kishi hasn't done so? Bogard is right, all you're making is baseless assumptions

How does it provide relevance? How does 5 get to be more then 2? Maybe cuz logically 2 < 3 < 4 < 5?