MS Kakashi vs Kakuzu (rematch)

[KidGamer65]

This is honestly debatable of weather or not he can or cannot so bear with my points.

But shouldn't have done it when he had Fire and Wind Mask left inside of him? that doesnt make an sense if he needs signs to do a jutsu that has no name of the attack and different scale too. Like here:

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I'm pretty sure that those are the same jutsu just on a smaller scale but I guess he could use them without handsigns since they were merged with his body thus he wouldn't need to actively run chakra through them as they are basically one with him. This also brings me back to the point on how he runs his own chakra through the masks in order to use whatever element the heart contains.

If he died how would he run chakra through the masks and if he can't run chakra through them he should be able to use the elemental jutsu, right?

 

[Brother Numpsay]

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I'm pretty sure that those are the same jutsu just on a smaller scale but I guess he could use them without handsigns since they were merged with his body thus he wouldn't need to actively run chakra through them as they are basically one with him. This also brings me back to the point on how he runs his own chakra through the maskgs in order to element the heart contains.

If he died how would he run chakra through the masks and if he can't run chakra through them he should be able to use the elemental jutsu, right?

I think it is reasonable to say they can attack on, their own for the fact they have their chakra. Other Wise seperating it is pointless.if they cant take care of their own via war arc.

 

[KidGamer65]

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I think it is reasonable to say they can attack on, their own for the fact they have their chakra. Other Wise seperating it is pointless.if they cant take care of their own via war arc.

Maybe they can melee, and use elemental jutsu while Kakuzu is still alive sending his chakra through them but if he's dead or gone? I don't see how he can send his chakra through them to use the elemental jutsu.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Maybe they can melee, and use elemental jutsu while Kakuzu is still alive sending his chakra through them but if he's dead or gone? I don't see how he can send his chakra through them to use the elemental jutsu.

He doesn't have to send his own chakra they have their own chakra tubes

 

[KidGamer65]

He doesn't have to send his own chakra they have their own chakra tubes

Having chakra tubes=/=Having chakra in those chakra tubes Otherwise they wouldn't have said Kakuzu uses his elemental jutsu by sending his chakra through the tubes.

 

[slaton02]

Kakuzu would win. Funny how people jutsu Kamui to face instantly and it's over in 1 second yet match Kakashi up with Madara or something they never say it lol gtfo what that. Kakuzu wouldn't give him a chance.

Kidgamer it's been said Kakuzu's hearts have their own chakra network.

 

[Shura]

Kakuzu would win. Funny how people jutsu Kamui to face instantly and it's over in 1 second yet match Kakashi up with Madara or something they never say it lol gtfo what that. Kakuzu wouldn't give him a chance.

This post is beautiful! :x3: I'm not being sarcastic. I completely agree with the bold.

 

[KidGamer65]

Kakuzu would win. Funny how people jutsu Kamui to face instantly and it's over in 1 second yet match Kakashi up with Madara or something they never say it lol gtfo what that. Kakuzu wouldn't give him a chance.

Kidgamer it's been said Kakuzu's hearts have their own chakra network.

Its been said that they have their own chakra tubes, not chakra network. Chakra tubes=/=Chakra network.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Having chakra tubes=/=Having chakra in those chakra tubes Otherwise they wouldn't have said Kakuzu uses his elemental jutsu by sending his chakra through the tubes.

That honestly does not make sense to have chakra tubes with no chskra. Explain e difference between network n tubes

 

[KidGamer65]

That honestly does not make sense to have chakra tubes with no chskra. Explain e difference between network n tubes

What? No, not really. That's like saying it makes no sense for a water bottle to have no water in it. Tubes are the container for chakra, hearts don't contain chakra nor was it ever said they do, they simply have chakra tubes that Kakuzu runs his own chakra through to use the former owners elemental affinity. How would he even run his own chakra through the tubes or why would he need to run his own chakra through the tubes if there was already chakra in them to be used?

If his masks could use elemental jutsu on their own why did the manga say that to use them he needs to run his chakra through those tubes.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

What? No, not really. That's like saying it makes no sense for a water bottle to have no water in it. Tubes are the container for chakra, hearts don't contain chakra nor was it ever said they do, they simply have chakra tubes that Kakuzu runs his own chakra through to use the former owners elemental affinity. How wold he even run his own chakra through the tu bbes or why would he need to run his own chakra through the tubes if there was already chakra in them to be used?
If his masks could use elemental jutsu on their own why did the manga say that to use them he needs to run his chakra through those tubes.

Because the manga was only explaining how he access other elements. If y our premise claims that they dont run through chakra then that would be irrelevante to call arth grudge fear a jutsu

 

[Zexion~]

:sy: this whole argument is based on the fact that kakashi is even able to kamui kakuzu right away .. kakuzu has shown small speed bursts which he could easily get out of kakashi's eyesight ...

Anyway with intel kakuzu takes this for sure. just throwin that out there

 

[KidGamer65]

:sy: this whole argument is based on the fact that kakashi is even able to kamui kakuzu right away .. kakuzu has shown small speed bursts which he could easily get out of kakashi's eyesight ...

Anyway with intel kakuzu takes this for sure. just throwin that out there

:sy: No its not. Kakashi can Kamui him at any time and still win.

Intel or not he loses.

@bold: -Sigh- Sharingan tracks movement.

Because the manga was only explaining how he access other elements. If y our premise claims that they dont run through chakra then that would be irrelevante to call arth grudge fear a jutsu

Never said that they don't run through chakra at all. They run on Kakuzu's chakra. How would he access the elemental jutsu without his chakra?

 

[Zexion~]

:sy: No its not. Kakashi can Kamui him at any time and still win.

Intel or not he loses.

@bold: -Sigh- Sharingan tracks movement.



Never said that they don't run through chakra at all. They run on Kakuzu's chakra. How would he access the elemental jutsu without his chakra?

Wow he can track it ..so he cant keep kamui active for long enough to look at where kakuzu would be now .. and no intel he simply would stay out of kakashi's line of sight and have the hearts fight for him ... Seeing as kakashi cant take all 3 on at the same time He would be taken down sooner or later ..

 

[Brother Numpsay]

:sy: No its not. Kakashi can Kamui him at any time and still win.

Intel or not he loses.

@bold: -Sigh- Sharingan tracks movement.



Never said that they don't run through chakra at all. They run on Kakuzu's chakra. How would he access the elemental jutsu without his chakra?

I didnt mean to say their source isnt needed i was saying they should act as any other jutsu. It only makes sense to say that each heart are sppilt into portions for them to function

 

[KidGamer65]

Wow he can track it ..so he cant keep kamui active for long enough to look at where kakuzu would be now .. and no intel he simply would stay out of kakashi's line of sight and have the hearts fight for him ... Seeing as kakashi cant take all 3 on at the same time He would be taken down sooner or later ..

Kamui speed>Kakuzu speed.

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He can track his movements so Kakuzu is NEVER LEAVING HIS SIGHT. Thus he gets warped. When he is as fast as A or Naruto then he can fool the Sharingan's vision.

I didnt mean to say their source isnt needed i was saying they should act as any other jutsu. It only makes sense to say that each heart are sppilt into portions for them to function

What do you mean by "each heart being split into portions" ? Do you mean chakra? If so then I'm pretty sure they continuously have chakra until Kakuzu dies that is.

 

[Brother Numpsay]

Kamui speed>Kakuzu speed.

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He can track his movements so Kakuzu is NEVER LEAVING HIS SIGHT. Thus he gets warped. When he is as fast as A or Naruto then he can fool the Sharingan's vision.



What do you mean by "each heart being split into portions" ? Do you mean chakra? If so then I'm pretty sure they continuously have chakra until Kakuzu dies that is.

Yea what i meant. So how do you conclude that they can still funtion after his death

 

[Zexion~]

Kamui speed>Kakuzu speed.

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He can track his movements so Kakuzu is NEVER LEAVING HIS SIGHT. Thus he gets warped. When he is as fast as A or Naruto then he can fool the Sharingan's vision.



What do you mean by "each heart being split into portions" ? Do you mean chakra? If so then I'm pretty sure they continuously have chakra until Kakuzu dies that is.

Why would the chakra stop when kakuzu dies .. if he already Inserted chakra they would o on after death.. Already Out puted chakra does not cease after death.

 

[KidGamer65]

Yea what i meant. So how do you conclude that they can still funtion after his death

That's the only part that confuses me. They were able to move while he was dead but the manga said to use the elemental jutsu he needs to run his chakra through the masks, letting him access their nature element.

 

[KidGamer65]

Why would the chakra stop when kakuzu dies .. if he already Inserted chakra they would o on after death.. Already Out puted chakra does not cease after death.

Kakuzu runs his chakra through them. He doesn't store his chakra in them.