Sasuke is the reason KCM/BM Naruto is human form and other Kishi's BS plot

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Remember when he fought pain? he wasnt in human form and was about to turn into the full kyuubi. This negates what you said.

The kyuubis chakra comes with his mind if that happens hell be revived naruto has to separate his chakra from its mind
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Seriously, I wonder when people will stop believing in this stupid idea. If that was true, Kurama would start looking different right after Minato sealed his chakra away.

You cannot be serious, man. There was a considerable size reduction. Compare Kurama in its current form to the one Madara tamed. The difference is colossal.
 

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You cannot be serious, man. There was a considerable size reduction. Compare Kurama in its current form to the one Madara tamed. The difference is colossal.
You misunderstood me, I wasnt talking about size, but about appearance. Kurama didnt start to look ethereal when Minato sealed half of his chakra away, thats what I was talking about.
 

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You misunderstood me, I wasnt talking about size, but about appearance. Kurama didnt start to look ethereal when Minato sealed half of his chakra away, thats what I was talking about.

My mistake then.
 

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It has something to do with his connection or Kurama's connection to the So6p hence all those symbols on his body and his overall look resembling him.
 

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Pretty sure he can't go full BM because minato sealed the physical part of kurama whithin him when he used reaper death seal

This statement made your thread useless haha

It's obvious your a fan boy!

Sure sasuke can copy the speed doesn't mean he can react to it in time! The reason why Sasuke can't read the movements of naruto is because beast mode is a chakra shroud which moves in a different direction than regular chakra! Watch the sasuke vs naruto fighting part 1 to confirm
 

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Already knew the part about Naruto if he transformed in his Biju like bee he'd be one shot with Amaterasu. How could Sasuke copy Lee speed without weights if he never seen it? Obviously he trained with Kakashi to become as fast as Lee.
 

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Already knew the part about Naruto if he transformed in his Biju like bee he'd be one shot with Amaterasu. How could Sasuke copy Lee speed without weights if he never seen it? Obviously he trained with Kakashi to become as fast as Lee.
the reason why kishi made narut's bm like that is not because of sasuke it's how he's supposed to represent the younger son
you have to separated the mind from the chakra or else the kyuubi will be fully revived like pain
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minato believed that naruto could control half of kurama's chakra because he needs a special power
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thats why jiraiya was trying teach naruto how to separate the mind because that is what that jutsu is
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this is that special power
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kurama's filtered yang chakra
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Many wounder why Naruto's KCM and BM is diferent then the other Jins and different from before he gained control of Kurama, It was never explained why the look changed so drasticly. It's because if it was normal Sasuke would most likely beat Naruto. If he was to go BM(full Kurama) Amaterasu would defeat him like it did with the fake Bee but BM is now human form with Naruto in controll and KCM/BM speed is extremly fast it makes no sense Kurama himself and BM Bee is no where near that fast that fast. This is so Naruto can dodge Amaterasu. It's Like KCM/BM Naruto was designed to counter Sasuke. I don't know what els to called it other than BS cause Kishi never explain the look change. Look at another 1 time feat for the sake of plot.

Sasuke copying Lee's speed
I was looking at part 1 Sasuke's last databook stats and I noticed his speed was only 3.5 when Lee's was 4. Sasuke copied Lee's speed (which is logicly impossible) so shouldn't his speed be a 4 too? Sasuke has only showed the speed feat vs Gaara and it then disapeared. No doubt it was pure BS plot so Sasuke could keep up with Gaara. Without the speed he didn't stand a chance against Gaara. plot no jutsu maybe over used but can't help but call it.

I don't wanna spend all day pointin out every handful of BS that happened for the sake of the main characters, we know there is alot. It's getting annoying and I wanted to show these 2 things that people may have not caught on to yet. What do you think these.

edit: you can't say Naruto only hving half it's chakra is the reason cause he has went KM before and it wasn't like this and was about to go full kyuubi vs pain. Uzumaki bloodline is questionable cause like I said before it was not like this the times he went kyuubi mode vs Oro, Pain,Sasuke, ect. Kishi needs to explain it now.

You haven't given him time to explain.
 

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the reason why kishi made narut's bm like that is not because of sasuke it's how he's supposed to represent the younger son
you have to separated the mind from the chakra or else the kyuubi will be fully revived like pain
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minato believed that naruto could control half of kurama's chakra because he needs a special power
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thats why jiraiya was trying teach naruto how to separate the mind because that is what that jutsu is
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this is that special power
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kurama's filtered yang chakra
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Maybe if I didn't see Naruto about to transform into Kurama during the Pain invasion, I'd give some thought to to theory. But since I did see Naruto about to go complete 9 tails yo theory is voided.
 

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Still, i certaintly agree with you but Naruto is bound to change form once again if he gets the other half of kurama and even more if he does Full Bijuu Mode and Sage Mode.
 

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Could be the type of seal?

Maybe the Sage had a similar BM?
 

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Maybe if I didn't see Naruto about to transform into Kurama during the Pain invasion, I'd give some thought to to theory. But since I did see Naruto about to go complete 9 tails yo theory is voided.

reread these two pages again then
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he was about to transform into kurama because kurama's mind comes with his chakra and will make him be fully revived,naruto separated the mind from the chakra only getting his chakra not his mind meaning kurama will not be fully revived
 
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Maybe if I didn't see Naruto about to transform into Kurama during the Pain invasion, I'd give some thought to to theory. But since I did see Naruto about to go complete 9 tails yo theory is voided.

You just made no sense whatsoever...
 
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So far this person is the closet to it, I think. There are some others in here that are thinking along the same path, to these I say kuddoz aan I concur...
I think it's about the different seals used to "implant" the hosts with.

Gara's transformation didn't really match the others. As a matter fact what do the various versions look like for all the beast ( Yes, I know about level 1-6 but 7 & 8) and do all of them go through "9-levels" so to speak?

AS far as Sasuke and Lee well you called it. It is BS. In fact I would state that it is the first example of Kishi's BS.
 

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So far this person is the closet to it, I think. There are some others in here that are thinking along the same path, to these I say kuddoz aan I concur...
I think it's about the different seals used to "implant" the hosts with.

Gara's transformation didn't really match the others. As a matter fact what do the various versions look like for all the beast ( Yes, I know about level 1-6 but 7 & 8) and do all of them go through "9-levels" so to speak?

AS far as Sasuke and Lee well you called it. It is BS. In fact I would state that it is the first example of Kishi's BS.
my theory is that the swirly seal leaks filtered yang chakra
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and changes the one around it back into the one the sage passed down that obito mentions
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and sasuke only fast feats weren't against gaara he kept up with the raikage and when naruto first met up with him with yamato,yamato said how fast he was
 
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This statement made your thread useless haha

It's obvious your a fan boy!

Sure sasuke can copy the speed doesn't mean he can react to it in time! The reason why Sasuke can't read the movements of naruto is because beast mode is a chakra shroud which moves in a different direction than regular chakra! Watch the sasuke vs naruto fighting part 1 to confirm

Idiot#1 right here, I already disproven teamtaka statement and you callin me a Sasuke fanboy? LMAO:hyper: never get on my thread again cause you obviously didn't read it. Lol dumba$$
 

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I'm just going to skip to the Sasuke part.

Sasuke's sharingan copied Lee's footspeed, causing him to be as fast as lee. He copied muscle movement, athletics, and the way lee moves. His sharingan was pushing his speed farther than he actually had, as he was using the copied muscle increase to the point he was able to run fast as lee. That's why he was panting so hard.

Sasuke without using sharingan is much slower than Lee. 4>3.5.

The sharingan made a adrenaline-like ability with Sasuke, making him faster than his base stat

Understand now?
 
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Many wounder why Naruto's KCM and BM is diferent then the other Jins and different from before he gained control of Kurama, It was never explained why the look changed so drasticly. It's because if it was normal Sasuke would most likely beat Naruto. If he was to go BM(full Kurama) Amaterasu would defeat him like it did with the fake Bee but BM is now human form with Naruto in controll and KCM/BM speed is extremly fast it makes no sense Kurama himself and BM Bee is no where near that fast that fast. This is so Naruto can dodge Amaterasu. It's Like KCM/BM Naruto was designed to counter Sasuke. I don't know what els to called it other than BS cause Kishi never explain the look change. Look at another 1 time feat for the sake of plot.

Sasuke copying Lee's speed
I was looking at part 1 Sasuke's last databook stats and I noticed his speed was only 3.5 when Lee's was 4. Sasuke copied Lee's speed (which is logicly impossible) so shouldn't his speed be a 4 too? Sasuke has only showed the speed feat vs Gaara and it then disapeared. No doubt it was pure BS plot so Sasuke could keep up with Gaara. Without the speed he didn't stand a chance against Gaara. plot no jutsu maybe over used but can't help but call it.

I don't wanna spend all day pointin out every handful of BS that happened for the sake of the main characters, we know there is alot. It's getting annoying and I wanted to show these 2 things that people may have not caught on to yet. What do you think these.

edit: you can't say Naruto only hving half it's chakra is the reason cause he has went KM before and it wasn't like this and was about to go full kyuubi vs pain. Uzumaki bloodline is questionable cause like I said before it was not like this the times he went kyuubi mode vs Oro, Pain,Sasuke, ect. Kishi needs to explain it now.

very very logical, never thought about it this way, however, it seems you're just upset that naruto >> sasuke atm
 
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