(Tsunade) she knows FTG

[Oronagato]

No no, you have to prove that she has FTG. Your "proof" is all speculation, a rather crazy one at that, and no evidence exists that she knows FTG, let a lone Space Time Ninjutsu

 

[FaHaD 5212]

Whatever... Tsunade has the talent and the necessary chakra to learn it.

She might be able to learn it but not as good a Minato

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

No.

Not on the level of Minato, at least.

Tsunade's techniques consist of "punch stuff hard, heal real fast". That's it.

At best, she'd be able to learn FTG to the point where she could teleport 2 feet in any direction, and then be depleted of chakra.

Laughable.
Tsunade was able to heal hundreds of people simultaneously, without showing signs of fatigue. Her chara levels are exremely high.

 

[Booker]

Laughable.
Tsunade was able to heal hundreds of people simultaneously, without showing signs of fatigue. Her chara levels are exremely high.

Lmao

Didn't she go into a coma?

Also, please tell me what she has beyond "hit stuff hard, heal real fast" if that's "laughable"?

 

[Joshutsu]

Laughable.
Tsunade was able to heal hundreds of people simultaneously, without showing signs of fatigue. Her chara levels are exremely high.

It doesn't matter really, she doesn't have it as far as we know but shes still kickass without it XD.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Lmao

Didn't she go into a coma?

Also, please tell me what she has beyond "hit stuff hard, heal real fast" if that's "laughable"?

After she released her Sozo Saize and tanked Pain's strongest Shinra Tensei, yes. But before that she used her base chakra to heal the civilians.

 

[Aertes]

Hmm interesting narrative. But 1. Tsunade was not sitting in the office just waiting on Naruto during the pain invasion. Tsunade's job in the Pein arc was not to fight Pein. It was very evidently a job for Naruto. Thus that is the reason she told him to train instead of moping around and the reason that her first instinct was to bring Naruto back to fight Pein. She decided to take the support role of literally protecting the welfare of the citizens and leave the offense up to Naruto which would have been a great game plan had Danzo not have killed the toad who was supposed to get Naruto.
Also bearing in mind how little information on pein they had beforehand launching a full on strike by Tsunade would have been reckless because if she was taken down there would have been no one to heal and protect the villagers. Furthermore a part of not having knowledge then included not having knowledge that he had a jutsu strong enough to demolish konoha. Because how could she know that, the information Jiraiya specifically went to get was not very specific. It didn't talk about powerlevels or any such things. Though what it did do was it allowed her to know that the real one wasn't there and thus fighting them would not have served a real purpose if they are just puppets with their master pulling the strings. And think about that, because Nagato has every path he very well could have simply brought back his paths after Naruto defeated all of them. And Naruto would have been screwed. The strategy she employed was therefore the best strategy in that scenario.

So how exactly was she a failure as hokage?

Furthermore Sakumo's fame was greater than the sannin and he should have been stronger too considering they were teenagers at that point. Not even near their primes.

How is she a disgrace? Furthermore if Hashirama remembers her as a little kid why would he have any valid reason to worry besides comic relief?

I believe that the role of the Hokage is to protect the village and the citizens at any cost.I agree that they didn't have much info about Pain but letting him destroy the village and kill most of your shinobis isn't what a Hokage should do.
If Naruto had come at the minute he was summoned he would have been killed.First,because at that point they still hadn't all the the necessary info on Pain's ability and second because Naruto wasn't capable of taking all six paths out alone.
Letting a 16year old boy do all the dirty job,even if he is stronger than her, isn't a great plan.
Waiting for a 16year old boy to do what you were appointed to do at the first place,is a shitty plan.
Tsunade would have been killed,undoubtedly, but that was her job.To step up at the battle and try to protect the village the best she can,without sacrificing the lives of so many at the first place.
What if Nagato didn't change his mind and perform rinne tensei??
If he was willing to fight to the end for what he believed at first?Naruto might have been able to kill Nagato but he could never kill Konan at the state he was.He was exhausted and he even collapsed after a while.
If it wasn't for Nagato's good will Tsunade would have manage to kill of half the shinobi of Konoha,kill the two most powerful ninja's of the village (Naruto and Kakashi) and end up in a comma trying to protect the other half village.Not to mention that Obito would have Kurama on his hands.
Hashirama "killed" his best friend for the village.Tobirama died to protect a bunch of Konoha shinobis.Minato died to protect the village.Hiruzen died to defeat Orochimaru and protect the village.Tsunade waited for Naruto.
That's why she is a disgrace to the Senju's and that's why she is a failure as a Hokage.

 

[Booker]

After she released her Sozo Saize and tanked Pain's strongest Shinra Tensei, yes. But before that she used her base chakra to heal the civilians.

Okay, and how many villagers was that? Does it really matter, actually?

You're claiming Tsunade can learn FTG, which is laughable in itself.

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Okay, and how many villagers was that? Does it really matter, actually?

You're claiming Tsunade can learn FTG, which is laughable in itself.

Do you even know how many civilian/ ninja lives in Konoha?
And why is laughable? If jounin level ninjas were able to master it, why do you think Tsunade, who is a Kage level kunoichi, can't master it?

 

[Joshutsu]

I believe that the role of the Hokage is to protect the village and the citizens at any cost.I agree that they didn't have much info about Pain but letting him destroy the village and kill most of your shinobis isn't what a Hokage should do.
If Naruto had come at the minute he was summoned he would have been killed.First,because at that point they still hadn't all the the necessary info on Pain's ability and second because Naruto wasn't capable of taking all six paths out alone.
Letting a 16year old boy do all the dirty job,even if he is stronger than her, isn't a great plan.
Waiting for a 16year old boy to do what you were appointed to do at the first place,is a shitty plan.
Tsunade would have been killed,undoubtedly, but that was her job.To step up at the battle and try to protect the village the best she can,without sacrificing the lives of so many at the first place.
What if Nagato didn't change his mind and perform rinne tensei??
If he was willing to fight to the end for what he believed at first?Naruto might have been able to kill Nagato but he could never kill Konan at the state he was.He was exhausted and he even collapsed after a while.
If it wasn't for Nagato's good will Tsunade would have manage to kill of half the shinobi of Konoha,kill the two most powerful ninja's of the village (Naruto and Kakashi) and end up in a comma trying to protect the other half village.Not to mention that Obito would have Kurama on his hands.
Hashirama "killed" his best friend for the village.Tobirama died to protect a bunch of Konoha shinobis.Minato died to protect the village.Hiruzen died to defeat Orochimaru and protect the village.Tsunade waited for Naruto.
That's why she is a disgrace to the Senju's and that's why she is a failure as a Hokage.

Her healing was a form of protecting the villagers, she even wen't down to face the pains with llike her last drop of chakara before Naruto stepped in, i'm sure she would not have lasted long in that state but she was willing to die a true hokage.

She acknowledged she couldn't beat the guy because well not even Jiraya could. Plus that whole situation had to somehow show off Narutos SM. She wasnt expecting Almighty Push that is what caused most of the devastation and it probably would have still happened if she did fight the pain from the start, I don't think any of the hokages can deflect such a technique with their shown ability.

Hokage title isnt about being a pure power house, though it helps, she is probably the weakest hokage but not the worst because all she has been doing is fixing shit the old hokage were careless with.

Plus her being half uzumaki doesn't make it laughable she could learn FTG

 

[Booker]

Do you even know how many civilian/ ninja lives in Konoha?
And why is laughable? If jounin level ninjas were able to master it, why do you think Tsunade, who is a Kage level kunoichi, can't master it?

Name a jounin besides minato who has mastered it.

I'll wait...

 

[Slug Princess Tsunade]

Name a jounin besides minato who has mastered it.

I'll wait...

I'm talking about his special jounins :|

I hope we can agree on that Tsunade > that 3 jounin combined.

So again, why do you think she can't master it?

 

[Booker]

I'm talking about his special jounins :|

I hope we can agree on that Tsunade > that 3 jounin combined.

So again, why do you think she can't master it?

Too bad those special jounins didn't master it.

For instance, Sasuke knew fireball jutsu, but hadn't mastered it like Itachi.

 

[believe7]

I honestly believe that tsunade dont know FTG nor would kishi assigned her that technique. All I want tsunade to have as a sannin is Sage Mode thats it. She can die afterwards a great hero but just give a female ninja SM and ill be cool

 

[Tazzilla88]

I believe that the role of the Hokage is to protect the village and the citizens at any cost.I agree that they didn't have much info about Pain but letting him destroy the village and kill most of your shinobis isn't what a Hokage should do.
If Naruto had come at the minute he was summoned he would have been killed.First,because at that point they still hadn't all the the necessary info on Pain's ability and second because Naruto wasn't capable of taking all six paths out alone.
Letting a 16year old boy do all the dirty job,even if he is stronger than her, isn't a great plan.
Waiting for a 16year old boy to do what you were appointed to do at the first place,is a shitty plan.
Tsunade would have been killed,undoubtedly, but that was her job.To step up at the battle and try to protect the village the best she can,without sacrificing the lives of so many at the first place.
What if Nagato didn't change his mind and perform rinne tensei??
If he was willing to fight to the end for what he believed at first?Naruto might have been able to kill Nagato but he could never kill Konan at the state he was.He was exhausted and he even collapsed after a while.
If it wasn't for Nagato's good will Tsunade would have manage to kill of half the shinobi of Konoha,kill the two most powerful ninja's of the village (Naruto and Kakashi) and end up in a comma trying to protect the other half village.Not to mention that Obito would have Kurama on his hands.
Hashirama "killed" his best friend for the village.Tobirama died to protect a bunch of Konoha shinobis.Minato died to protect the village.Hiruzen died to defeat Orochimaru and protect the village.Tsunade waited for Naruto.
That's why she is a disgrace to the Senju's and that's why she is a failure as a Hokage.

So her job is to rush forward and fight an opponent she would probably lose to with no contingency plan to protect the villagers?

I think you are mistaking protecting the villagers and protecting the village. Tsunade protected the majority of the villagers.

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Yes, there were some casualties but she protected the majority of the citizens and Shinobi.

So what would you have proposed as the game plan? What should the hokage have done to protect the villagers and not simply go on an ego trip of "I have to fight the attacker myself" If she died who would have protected those villagers? Seriously what would have been a better strategy to go with. After she had protected the villagers to the best of her ability and used all of her chakra keeping her safe. She still put her life on the line because Naruto was not there.
So counting on Naruto is stupid. Well then I suppose the gokage are complete idiots for knowing that Naruto was necessary in the war and completely stupid in deciding that he should fight in the war at all. Tsunade must have been wrong. They shouldn't rely on him because he's 16 and he isn't a kage, it's not like he is the kage's tool. It's not even like the third hokage and Kakashi didn't rely on Naruto to take out Shukaku when he was 12. Nope because Naruto is not a kage and only 16 he should not be relied upon.

I think you are forgetting a bit of your Naruto history.
Minato did not eliminate the threat that he should of namely Obito. Hiruzen and Kakashi left Shukaku to Naruto. The first Hokage did eventually try to kill his best friend. But he let him attack the village several times before that didn't he?

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Tobirama played a large part in creating the system which lead to the slaughter of the Uchiha clan. Tsunade didn't just wait. She protected the villagers and waited for the 2nd part of her plan to bloom into fruition.

 

[emo313]

oh oh oh now thanks for the proof
now I SIMPLY AGREE WITH YOU
sorry about that

 

[Tazzilla88]

Too bad those special jounins didn't master it.

For instance, Sasuke knew fireball jutsu, but hadn't mastered it like Itachi.

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no reason she couldn't learn it

 

[FourthLegacy]

we barely saw her fighting since she became hokage and when she fought madara, she was busy healing the kages and fighting at same time so she didn't have chance and it require lots of chakra

How bout in her fight against Oro and kabuto?

She's not an offence type. She's a support type.

 

[6ari8]

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no reason she couldn't learn it

He said theoretically. He also said he could never learn Haku's jutsu later.

 

[Amaterasuice]

FTG is senju jutsu and tobirama found this jutsu and he taught it to tsunade and she passed it to minato.

Seriously??? -_-