Susanoo - A Rare Power to obtain

[GodaimeRaikage]

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I meant Susanoo, NOT Mangekyō Sharingan in general.

Check yourself

I know what you meant, which is why I called it nonsense.You claim that being the children of the head clan leader is the reason why certain Uchiha gain Susanoo and other didn't.I stated it was nonsense because if being the child of the Uchiha clan leader was neccessary to gain susanoo, why wouldn't it be neccessary to gain MS.Obito and Shisui both gain MS and neither are children of former leaders of the Uchiha Clan.Furthermore, neither Madara and Izuna father or Itachi and Sasuke father possess Susanoo or MS in general.Not to mention there is nothing relating the two heads of clan to each others, meaning your main family argument is disproven because unlike the Hyuga Clan, Uchiha are lead by the strongest, not by lineage.


You need to check yourself instead of speaking easily disproven nonsense.

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

you need 2 ms powers also . 1 yin and 1 yang eg tsuku and ama

Dude it still states that even then it's still not 100% that your going to obtain it. It's the rarest of everything for a uchiha

 

[ForeverYoung]

Interesting! This is one of the most intriguing ideas I've heard. There's no way to confirm it, unfortunately. However, I like to write fanfiction when I'm free. This kind of thing is gold! Do you mind if I use it in my fic? I may not, of course, but I'll let you know if I do. Of course, I'll wait for you to allow me first!

Haha, ofc no problem! Theres no way to confirm it as a fact I agree, but it makes most sense. Caus i remember somewhere in the manga when Sasuke fights Killer bee and uses Amaterasu on him he then makes them vanish and says in a shocked state: "I removed the black flames of Amaterasu, is this the ocular power of the Mangekygo?". Thats why I think that his own special ocular power is that he can control Amatarasu as he wishes, that includes shape and form, aswell as turning it both defensive and offensive. He posses the Tsukuyomi but its a far off cry compared to Itachis version, therefor I think Itachi possessed the ocular power to control time and space within the Tsukuyomi. The reason they possess the same abilites could be that Itachi somehow transfered Tsukuyomi to him while implanting the Amaterasu defense for Obito, that could also be the reason why Sasuke cant handle the Tsukuyomi as Itachi caus he dont possess the ocular power for the time and space manipulation of it, but this is just a theory I have.

However, I dont believe that Sasuke got his Susanoo from Itachi, its just a coincidence and pure luck that he obtained it, if u keep Itachis reacton to Sasukes Susanoo in mind.

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

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All his ocular powers.

i didn't realize that Itachi had Ama. Manipulation , Your taking it too serious cause if were true then sasuke would be able to use Tsuk. to the same degree as Itachi which he can't

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. Sasuke unlocked Ama. himself if not then what was this for:

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Stop trying to down play sasuke as if he doesn't earn his ablilites, yeah itachi might have made it easier for him to unlock both Tsuk and Ama. but sasuke unlocked Ama. himself not so sure on Tsuk

 

[Great Sage of Uchiha]

Haha, ofc no problem! Theres no way to confirm it as a fact I agree, but it makes most sense. Caus i remember somewhere in the manga when Sasuke fights Killer bee and uses Amaterasu on him he then makes them vanish and says in a shocked state: "I removed the black flames of Amaterasu, is this the ocular power of the Mangekygo?". Thats why I think that his own special ocular power is that he can control Amatarasu as he wishes, that includes shape and form, aswell as turning it both defensive and offensive. He posses the Tsukuyomi but its a far off cry compared to Itachis version, therefor I think Itachi possessed the ocular power to control time and space within the Tsukuyomi. The reason they possess the same abilites could be that Itachi somehow transfered Tsukuyomi to him while implanting the Amaterasu defense for Obito, that could also be the reason why Sasuke cant handle the Tsukuyomi as Itachi caus he dont possess the ocular power for the time and space manipulation of it, but this is just a theory I have.

However, I dont believe that Sasuke got his Susanoo from Itachi, its just a coincidence and pure luck that he obtained it, if u keep Itachis reacton to Sasukes Susanoo in mind.

Lol look down dude, i posted it below you

 

[ForeverYoung]

Lol look down dude, i posted it below you

We must have posted at the same time caus I didnt see that xD

 

[Aze]

Madara - the best Susanoo user - No Doubt About it - Has Perfect Susanoo - Can Envelope Kurama with Susanoo

Sasuke - the best Amaterasu user - No Doubt About it - can controll the flames - like they are parts of hes own body.

Itachi - the best Tsukiyomi user - No Doubt About it - can controll time inside the illusion to unbelievable rates.


So these 3 are the Golden Trio of MS Abilities.

Obito - Master of Kamui - Can become practically untouchable

Shisui - Master of Stealth Genjutsu - so many possibilities

 

[6PathsofKami]

i didn't realize that Itachi had Ama. Manipulation , Your taking it too serious cause if were true then sasuke would be able to use Tsuk. to the same degree as Itachi which he can't

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. Sasuke unlocked Ama. himself if not then what was this for:

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Stop trying to down play sasuke as if he doesn't earn his ablilites, yeah itachi might have made it easier for him to unlock both Tsuk and Ama. but sasuke unlocked Ama. himself not so sure on Tsuk

Not really, its just Sasuke is better at using Ama hence why he can manipulate it but Itachi is better at Tsuk hence why he can manipulate time with it. Each are better at one than the other but its still the same technique. It doesnt change that fact that Itachi gave Sasuke those abilities along with awakening his MS by allowing Sasuke to kill him.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Why do you guys keep saying they need to unlock MS in BOTH eyes, stressing both? Has there been ANYONE who got ms in one eye and not the other?

 

[chopstickchakra]

A Rare Power becomes a common power in this manga.

Mokuton. A RARE POWER!

But Madara, Orochimaru, Obito, Yamato and Zetsu can use it. bla bla.

All of those can only use it now because they have implanted Hashirama DNA which means it is still so rare that only one man's abilities can use it, Hashirama. Without a Hashirama connection mokuton is out of reach, and the connection must be genetically strong as we see his own grandaughter does not have enough Hashi in her to use Mokuton.

Also it says Susano'o is achieved by unlocking the MS techniques Ama and Tsuky. Just because you have MS doesn't mean jack shit unless you have those move from your MS. This is furhter implied by the Japanese myth of Susan'o being the brother of Amaterasu and Tsukynomi, born to Izanami and Izanagi.

 

[Kuzma]

Why do you guys keep saying they need to unlock MS in BOTH eyes, stressing both? Has there been ANYONE who got ms in one eye and not the other?

Obito... =D

EDIT: And Kakashi...

 

[chopstickchakra]

Obito... =D

EDIT: And Kakashi...

No the MS was unlocked simultaneously in those eyes. Despite them being separated they evolved concurrently. Kakashi did not evolve his MS separately from Obito it was the same incident that caused those eyes to evolve.

Kishi explained via Tobirama that the Uchiha's special "depression chakra" stimulates the growth in the Sharingan, this means either A. Kakashi has some Uchiha dna which, through the killing of rin, he used to evolve his implanted sharingan. or B. Obito experienced pain and his Uchiha chakra evolved his sharingan which Kakashi was borrowing.

I'm gonna go with B. Since the eyes were Obito's, when he experienced anything that evolved his eye Kakashi's eye would evolve too, however it logically had to be something they experience at the same time or else Kakashi would realize his eye evolved on it's own.