Finally it is over. Time to see how a real villain battles.

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THE SHARINGAN YES CAN DO A LOT, BUT WE KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE EMS SO LETS NOT TALK ABOUT THAT MUCH. BUT THE SHARINGAN IS LIMITED BY THE ABILITY OF THE BODY WITHIN IT, AND THE SHARINGAN AT HIGHER LEVELS IS LIMITED BY BLINDNESS. AND THEIR HAVE ONLY BEEN THREE PEOPLE WITH THE UPGRADED SHARINGAN TO MS AND ONLY ONE WITH EMS. DON'T GET ME WRONG THE SHARINGAN IS A GREAT, BUT ITS NOT STRONGER THEN THE RINNIGAN.
No actually ems is stronger than Rinnegan. Even ms is stronger than rinnegan in terms of abilities...
 

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Oh this is too much. I realize you're trying to push your poorly thought out Sasuke/Kabuto idea foward, but saying things like "base sharingan is more powerful than Rinnegan," just makes you look silly.

Let's see, Pain took on an S-class ninja in J-man and wiped him out, then went to a village full of higly trained ninja and kicked their butts, fighting about 10 Jounnin level ninja..at the same time; then he blew up almost the entire village, then he kicked super sage naruto's ass even when he was low on chakra, then the fox bailed naruto out, then pain actually gave the fucking fox a good fight, then he summoned the very keeper of life and death and controlled it.

But you know what you're right, none of that compares to what we've seen those sharingan users do...L..O..L:rolleyes:
 
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this is what happens when sasuke gets to konoha and finds naruto "u may be strong now naruto but i have the uchiha blood running through me" then naruto goes sage mode, appears behind sasuke gives him a nice old back-handed bi$!& slap and says "im the son of the fourth hokage bi@#$ u dont know me!!!" hahaha
 
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No actually ems is stronger than Rinnegan. Even ms is stronger than rinnegan in terms of abilities...
so can either of the ems or ms bring people back to life??? does it allow the user to perfectly use every element???? ill answer for you, NOPE, so what it gives the user 3 abilities and ems gives the user 6 abilities thats one ability for each of pains body, then nagato would have just come along with his statue and murdered the ms or ems user
 

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Please refrain from posting such things like "do you read the manga" because you humiliate yourself when i proove you wrong...
Yes it is. At least when the users are Madara and Itachi even base sharingan is stronger than Rinnegan.


Show me a page that Nagato killed a Sharingan user with Chibaku tensei or any other devastating jutsuwhen he attacked Konoha...Also you fail to understand simple concepts. So let me ask you: Do you read the manga? Itachi only wanted to assasinate the Uchihas, not completely destroy the village. Also he assasinated Uchihas, not some fodder Konoha citizens. Also keep in mind that Sharingan is best when fighting one on one. Also, in the manga Itachi was shown not to even be exhausted.

See above...

I cannot see how this makes Rineggan more proficient than Sharingan.

No this is not hilarious. It is hilarious when you do not read the words i use.

-facepalm-

Speculation.

:rolleyes:


We all know that you are objective:rolleyes:.
No offense but you are an idiot you contradicted yourself. And you obviously don't read the Manga. The original rinnegan user the sage of the six paths created all Jutsu in th ninja world that is in the Manga buddy and that includes your precious MS or EMS Sasuke is no where near the level of nagato.


oh and also Madara needed the 9-tailed fox to attack the village nagato did it by himself.
 
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OK , let me start off my rant on which is better... Neither!!
They both have the strong points, and they both have there weak points, but when it comes down to it, its all about WHO is holding that ability, so lets take the only Rinnegan user into action. does anyone know exactly how old he is?? or how old would he be ? is it with Naruto's age? or with Kakashi or who ever, Age counts for experience, and while he may know all the jutsu's Tech's and the works because of the Rinnegan, he is not that old, and i know that much. With age comes experience, and I know about what he has gone through, but like his Faith being lost, it shows that he is willing to do whatever, but to a certain extent. its about his motives and views, which in this case was peace through Brute force. Im sure that if someone like Madara had the Rinnegan, then he would use it to conquer the world, and control it the way he wants to, Nagato is doing the same, but for everlasting peace, and it goes without saying the Madara does and will most likely always have the upper hand.
the sharingan is powerful, Depending on the USER!! Itachi, Madara is about the only ones who would be able to take down The rinnegan, Because they know how to use it its abilities and more. The ems is extremely powerful and i favor it, but in the eyes of someone who can control practically every aspect from gravity, to death, its hard to believe that the Rinnegan would loose. But i believe that Madara would win in a 1vs.1 fight with Nagato. Anyone else with the ems would likely loose because of there motives, and besides, Madara was the brains behind Akatsuki for a reason. As for Itachi, i wont think he would win because he is to kind deep down, and frankly his abilites are extremely good, probably the best i have ever seen, but he just lacks that ability to kill someone, and if you think about it, Itachi never did kill anyone after The Uchiha Massacre.

so in conclusion, its like many of you have already said, It depends on the User and his ideas and motives that shows who will win. Both the Rinnegan and Sharingan, base, ms, or ems, they all are about the same when it comes to the bottom point. but i will say that in a 1 on 1, the sharingan, ems or ms would own the rinnegan, not easely but in the long haul, it would win.
 

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Many great points, there are too many hidden secrets in eye techs, it takes alot of practice and all to learn how to use them properly, and rinnegan, has the most secrets... Everyone was saying that sandaime was a genious cause he could use 1000 jutsus, but he lost to orochimaru, bcause he was old, nagato was young, and he couldnt fight properly because hanzo and those guys fucked up his childhood, with war and all, destroyed his legs and made him use that summon tech before he learned more things about rinnegan, if for example someone who had a better childhood, not in the middle of war, would happend to get rinnegan and get to train it his whole life without getting disturbed, he would most likely become the ruler of the world, so we've seen quite a few MS and 1 EMS, and we dont know how powerful EMS is since we havent seen it in battle, but those who have MS, they werent handicapped like nagato was, theres no proper answer to if rinnegan or sharingan is strongest, it all depends on the user as the post above says, and Rinnegan is stronger in terms of jutsus, since the user can use all ninjutsu, while sharingan only gives the user 3-6 specific jutsus, and in hand to hand combat, we dont know if rinnegan helps to predict the enemy's movement...
 

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No way if we have seen the full potential of rinnegan, i bet that there 1000 of jutsus he didnt use.
agreed .....
nagato (pain) didnt used his full potential of rinnegan.if he used it ,maybe he can beat naruto.
no doubt naruto in his new mode is stronger than nagato ......i said (maybe he can beat naruto.)
 

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agreed .....
nagato (pain) didnt used his full potential of rinnegan.if he used it ,maybe he can beat naruto.
no doubt naruto in his new mode is stronger than nagato ......i said (maybe he can beat naruto.)
Nagato was way to careful with naruto, he didnt want him to die, so he used minor techs.
 

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Please refrain from posting such things like "do you read the manga" because you humiliate yourself when i proove you wrong...
Yes it is. At least when the users are Madara and Itachi even base sharingan is stronger than Rinnegan.


Show me a page that Nagato killed a Sharingan user with Chibaku tensei or any other devastating jutsuwhen he attacked Konoha...Also you fail to understand simple concepts.


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he killed kakashi
 

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-facepalm-
Oh this is too much. I realize you're trying to push your poorly thought out Sasuke/Kabuto idea foward, but saying things like "base sharingan is more powerful than Rinnegan," just makes you look silly.
You just like being reported, dont you?
Let's see, Pain took on an S-class ninja in J-man and wiped him out, then went to a village full of higly trained ninja and kicked their butts, fighting about 10 Jounnin level ninja..at the same time; then he blew up almost the entire village, then he kicked super sage naruto's ass even when he was low on chakra, then the fox bailed naruto out, then pain actually gave the fucking fox a good fight, then he summoned the very keeper of life and death and controlled it.
Some things that Madara could have done without even causing commotion:rolleyes:.
But you know what you're right, none of that compares to what we've seen those sharingan users do...L..O..L:rolleyes:
Why are you still here posting nonsensical posts?
so can either of the ems or ms bring people back to life??? does it allow the user to perfectly use every element???? ill answer for you, NOPE, so what it gives the user 3 abilities and ems gives the user 6 abilities thats one ability for each of pains body, then nagato would have just come along with his statue and murdered the ms or ems user
Of course. That is why he served Madara and took orders from him. Because he is stronger. Look kid. Nagato was fodder. No one cared about him. Madara feared Itachi and not Nagato and that tells me a lot.
No offense but you are an idiot you contradicted yourself. And you obviously don't read the Manga. The original rinnegan user the sage of the six paths created all Jutsu in th ninja world that is in the Manga buddy and that includes your precious MS or EMS Sasuke is no where near the level of nagato.
Do you read what i post? Obviously you are not because i said that Sasuke has more potential.

oh and also Madara needed the 9-tailed fox to attack the village nagato did it by himself.
No he did not. By the way Nagato did not engage anyone of Minato's calibre.


he killed kakashi
Come again?
 

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-facepalm-
You just like being reported, dont you?

Some things that Madara could have done without even causing commotion:rolleyes:.

Why are you still here posting nonsensical posts?
Of course. That is why he served Madara and took orders from him. Because he is stronger. Look kid. Nagato was fodder. No one cared about him. Madara feared Itachi and not Nagato and that tells me a lot.
Do you read what i post? Obviously you are not because i said that Sasuke has more potential.


No he did not. By the way Nagato did not engage anyone of Minato's calibre.


Come again?
Kakashi was dead Nagato the Rinnegan user brought him back to life. You can't even back up your arguments with facts. Nagato was planning on turning on Madara it was pretty obvious. Just face it the Sharingan is overrated they get a few jutsu with Ms and EMS. With the proper training Nagato could have used all Jutsu. And oh by the way how many sharingan users brought multiple people back to life. when has any one MS or EMS user ever destroyed a whole village with only one attack. Again I say Madara with the 9-tails could not even destroy Konoha. here is a homework assignmenet for you read the manga chapters 1-449 since you have no idea what you are talking about. Pleas only start intelligent posts if Nagato was just Fodder why was the last 30 chapters were all about him attacking. Sasuke will get owned by Naruto when he arrives in Konoha.
 

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Just face it, sharingan isnt better than rinnegan, maybe in hand to hand combat, if nagato isnt using the 6 paths of pain, but again, rinnegan is a ninjutsu eye tech, it is the creator of ninjutsu, so it may be weaker in taijutsu and genjutsu, but it has enough techs to take out the opponent before he can use taijutsu or genjutsu on him.
 

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Kakashi was dead Nagato the Rinnegan user brought him back to life. You can't even back up your arguments with facts. Nagato was planning on turning on Madara it was pretty obvious. Just face it the Sharingan is overrated they get a few jutsu with Ms and EMS. With the proper training Nagato could have used all Jutsu. And oh by the way how many sharingan users brought multiple people back to life. when has any one MS or EMS user ever destroyed a whole village with only one attack. Again I say Madara with the 9-tails could not even destroy Konoha. here is a homework assignmenet for you read the manga chapters 1-449 since you have no idea what you are talking about. Pleas only start intelligent posts if Nagato was just Fodder why was the last 30 chapters were all about him attacking. Sasuke will get owned by Naruto when he arrives in Konoha.
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Ok from the beggining:
First you say this:
Kakashi was dead Nagato the Rinnegan user brought him back to life. You can't even back up your arguments with facts.
and then this:
Nagato was planning on turning on Madara it was pretty obvious.
Any manga page, to back up what you say?

Just face it the Sharingan is overrated they get a few jutsu with Ms and EMS.
Every jutsu that the mangekuy sharingan gives to the user, let alone eternal is stronger than the ones you can learn with rinnegan.
With the proper training Nagato could have used all Jutsu.
What do you mean with the proper training?
And oh by the way how many sharingan users brought multiple people back to life.
:eek: And this means Rinnegan>sharingan?
when has any one MS or EMS user ever destroyed a whole village with only one attack.
When has any uchiha ms or ems user died by someone stronger?
here is a homework assignmenet for you read the manga chapters 1-449 since you have no idea what you are talking about. Pleas only start intelligent posts if Nagato was just Fodder why was the last 30 chapters were all about him attacking. Sasuke will get owned by Naruto when he arrives in Konoha
Such irrefutable proof that make anyone believe in you. You are a genious:rolleyes:.
 

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How the heck is a MS or EMS tech stronger than Gedo Maze, Gedō: Rinne Tensei no Jutsu, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Bansho Tenin.. not to mention all the other techs.
Please explain how?

The Rinnegan (輪廻眼; Literally meaning "Samsara Eye") is the most revered and powerful (according to Fukasaku) of all the three great dōjutsu. Although a Kekkei Genkai like the Byakugan and Sharingan, it seems to be by far the most rarely occurring of the three, as there have been only two known Rinnegan users: the Sage of the Six Paths and Nagato, both of whom are now deceased.

source; naruto.wikia.com
Revered = more powerful
nuff said.
 
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How the heck is a MS or EMS tech stronger than Gedo Maze, Gedō: Rinne Tensei no Jutsu, Chibaku Tensei, Shinra Tensei, Bansho Tenin.. not to mention all the other techs.
Please explain how?

The Rinnegan (輪廻眼; Literally meaning "Samsara Eye") is the most revered and powerful (according to Fukasaku) of all the three great dōjutsu. Although a Kekkei Genkai like the Byakugan and Sharingan, it seems to be by far the most rarely occurring of the three, as there have been only two known Rinnegan users: the Sage of the Six Paths and Nagato, both of whom are now deceased.

source; naruto.wikia.com
Revered = more powerful
nuff said.
Revered=gallant,noble. Learn English.
Nuff said...
 

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You did not explain how the MS/EMS techs were stronger than rinnegan techs.
More revered= more gallant, more noble because its stronger, not because of its looks or anything.. = i know english.
 

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You did not explain how the MS/EMS techs were stronger than rinnegan techs.
Since you love the wiki: Susanoo:Susanoo's Totsuka Sword combined with the Yata mirror essentially makes Itachi invincible.

Tsukuyomi:Named after the Shinto Moon god, Tsukuyomi is one of the most powerful Genjutsu in existence.

Amaterasu:It is one of the most powerful ninjutsu in existence. The jet-black flames are said to be as hot as the sun. The flames are extremely powerful, capable of burning through Jiraiya's Summoning: Toad Mouth Bind, which Jiraiya states to be fire resistant.making it unavoidable as long as the user keeps his vision on the target.
Kamui:Kakashi can force that point to collapse in on itself, ultimately sending everything in the vicinity to another dimension.

just from wiki and just mangekuy...
 
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