Finally it is over. Time to see how a real villain battles.

[peaceful]

Hi guys. As you know the new chapter is over. Overral the Pain arc was good however with shitty start and end. Nagato was not a true a villain but a kid with phycological problems in need of a hugp).

But what i liked in the new chapter is that we are going to see Sasuke!!! We are going to see the power of his mangekuy and what he is capale of now. I do not expect Sasuke being stronger than Naruto after Naruto getting so much Saiyan powers ups however that is why i believe Sasuke is going to use the eyes of his brother Itachi. Nevertheless, in the few next chapter we are going to see Madara's true face. This is probably going to happen when he learns about Nagato's strength.

But these are not the interesting aspects of the new arc. We are going to see a real villain and how he fights. We are going to see what being badass means. We are going to see the new improved Kabuto!!! Remember that Kabuto said that he was going to fight Sasuke? And now Sasuke is heading towards to Konoha. So this the best chance for him to engage the Uchiha prodigy and a chance for us to see a real fight, because Naruto once again won with the talk no jutsu as i have said in one of my other threads...

Opinions?

 

[Preta]

Compared to Pain, Sasugay and Kabuto are tame aswell as weak, not sure how two lame ducks like them could get labeled "real villains," but you're free to your opinion. Yes Naruto "won with talking," after the entire village got wiped out and multiple characters were killed(apparently not for long), so Pain wasn't some panzy with a complex, for a good while we got to see him kick the most copius ammounts of ass in the manga to date.

I think the next arc will be a let down as we probably will not see a ninja with the depth that Pain brought to the story mostly because of the history of his Rinnegan and his past interaction with Konoha.

To be honest, I'm not sure how it will be "exciting" watching those 3 chunnin level ninja and Sasugay try to attack Konoha after we just saw an insanely powerful, master of life and death, crazy ass ninja attack it. But hey, maybe Kishi will surprise me...hopefully he does, because right now the next arc is looking pretty cheesey...look out for team hawk and Kabuto the lame sidekick? Yeah they look really dangerous compared to the villain we just saw.....yawn.

 

[Mugiwara]

Pain was a real villain, who the **** can beat 6 people with shared vision and complete overpowered techs? Talk no jutsu, was just a little part of the fight, he could beat nagato with a single punch, his chest would break or neck or something from a punch from naruto. He did his talk no jutsu, and look what happened, nagato revived everyone he killed in konoha and died himself, win! fighting against 6 persons controlled by 1 person, not easy... thats like multiboxing in wow if u know what i mean..

 

[roflcopter]

Compared to Pain, Sasugay and Kabuto are tame aswell as weak, not sure how two lame ducks like them could get labeled "real villains," but you're free to your opinion. Yes Naruto "won with talking," after the entire village got wiped out and multiple characters were killed(apparently not for long), so Pain wasn't some panzy with a complex, for a good while we got to see him kick the most copius ammounts of ass in the manga to date.

I think the next arc will be a let down as we probably will not see a ninja with the depth that Pain brought to the story mostly because of the history of his Rinnegan and his past interaction with Konoha.

To be honest, I'm not sure how it will be "exciting" watching those 3 chunnin level ninja and Sasugay try to attack Konoha after we just saw an insanely powerful, master of life and death, crazy ass ninja attack it. But hey, maybe Kishi will surprise me...hopefully he does, because right now the next arc is looking pretty cheesey...look out for team hawk and Kabuto the lame sidekick? Yeah they look really dangerous compared to the villain we just saw.....yawn.

Agreed.

After we just saw ninja with the msot powerful fully developed jutsu/doujutsi in Naruto Universe, an incomplete Sharingan isnt something to worry about. And Kabuto? What can he do >.< All he's good at is some gay moves like cutting limbs and then laughing at his enemies.

 

[Kazamori]

Agreed.

After we just saw ninja with the msot powerful fully developed jutsu/doujutsi in Naruto Universe, an incomplete Sharingan isnt something to worry about. And Kabuto? What can he do >.< All he's good at is some gay moves like cutting limbs and then laughing at his enemies.

Ahahaahah !!! lol !!!

Yeah , Agree .

Sasuke - self- confident emo who needs a hug
Kabuto - weak snake mutant who needs psychical help

No worrys about them for now...maybe later

Just kill Danzo and I'm happy =P

 

[peaceful]

As expected! Pain was a fodder character only 50 chapters long. He was weak if we take into account his hype and his motherfuckingipwnallofyou Rinnegan which turned out to be even weaker than mangekuy if not simple, base sharingan. He did not play any significant role for the manga except for giving Naruto the opportunity to achieve Sage mode. Oh and killing a wandering and almost missing nin Jiraya.

Whereas Sasuke is a character with a deep personality. He has much more potential than Pain and Nagato. Actually in the 50 next chapters he is going to be stronger than Pain.

Finally, Kabuto. Kabuto with Orochimaru has much more potential than Pain as well. Keep in mind that he does not have a doujutsu and he was on par or stronger than Tsunade in part 1 and he most probably surpassed Tsunade by now. So yes, he is a real fighter.

So, summing up Pain was good fighter without depth. He was fodder to say the most.

 

[Mugiwara]

No way if we have seen the full potential of rinnegan, i bet that there 1000 of jutsus he didnt use, because he never got a chance, he would, but naruto changed his mind.. and chibaku tensei, no way anyone else could escape it beside kyuubi... even gamabunta would be trapped in it, and chibaku tensei is only one of the jutsus.

 

[peaceful]

No way if we have seen the full potential of rinnegan, i bet that there 1000 of jutsus he didnt use, because he never got a chance, he would, but naruto changed his mind.. and chibaku tensei, no way anyone else could escape it beside kyuubi... even gamabunta would be trapped in it, and chibaku tensei is only one of the jutsus.

It is only speculation saying that Nagato did not use all the jutsus he could in order to defeat Naruto. He died just after he used the reviving jutsu which means he did not have any other chakra, which means he used whatever he had in order to win.

There are many people who could have avoided Chibaku. Some of them are Kakashi,Madara,Itachi,Zetsu and Naruto

 

[twistedlink]

As expected! Pain was a fodder character only 50 chapters long. He was weak if we take into account his hype and his motherfuckingipwnallofyou Rinnegan which turned out to be even weaker than mangekuy if not simple, base sharingan. He did not play any significant role for the manga except for giving Naruto the opportunity to achieve Sage mode. Oh and killing a wandering and almost missing nin Jiraya.

Whereas Sasuke is a character with a deep personality. He has much more potential than Pain and Nagato. Actually in the 50 next chapters he is going to be stronger than Pain.

Finally, Kabuto. Kabuto with Orochimaru has much more potential than Pain as well. Keep in mind that he does not have a doujutsu and he was on par or stronger than Tsunade in part 1 and he most probably surpassed Tsunade by now. So yes, he is a real fighter.

So, summing up Pain was good fighter without depth. He was fodder to say the most.

Rinnegan weaker than mangekyou??

rinnegan only as strong as base sharingan??

Do you read the manga??

Itachi had mangekyou, and even itachi, required tobi/madaras help (who also has Eternal mangekyou sharingan, and at least base sharingan too) in order to kill one CLAN (the Uchiha)

Pain, in ONE JUTSU, wiped out an entire fucking village and you somehow think sharingan is stronger??

It is even said by jiraiya etc, that rinnegan is the divine doujutsu, prophecy to drown a world in despair or heal it of death.

Don't get me wrong, i think sharingan kicks ass, but to actually consider sasuke stronger than pain is just absolutely hilarious.

Sasuke died like 3 times against 8 tails to be saved by sucking on blood, some weird shark dude getting in the way and juugo of dickheadery doing some weird age jutsu to heal sasuke.

Pain on the other hand would pwn 8 tails in 1 minute, if he really wanted to.

Pain showed an ability to fight and stalemate 6tailed kyuubi and still had a jutsu up his sleeve to slow down and counter 8tailed kyuubi.


Sorry but sasuke is just a bitch, always has been always will be.

I really do hope when sasuke turns up in konoha and starts being a fag as per usual, naruto just hops into sage mode and just beats him into an inch of his life easily, that will make my day, it will also be great to see how sasuke reacts to being so much weaker than naruto.


In actual fact naruto owning sasuke completely makes sense, jiraiya couldnt save orochimaru, and naruto/sasuke is the same story but the NEXT GENERATION, which kishi makes love to every chapter nearly, so in theory naruto should pwn sasuke a new *******, so sasuke can become a double dag *****.

The only real villains left are madara/tobi, zetsu, kisame and that's it.


It's been shown time and time again that while orochimaru is strong, he's nothing compared to some akatsuki level ninja.

Kabutomaro is just gonna get in the way.

Then again this is what i think, im sure kishi will once again make enemies stronger, allies weaker, and then scales of justice the entire ferrago and suddenly allies are wtfpwnage and villains are scummy and shyte.

Thats always the way with naruto.

However if sasuke pulls off anything even 5% as good as what pain did, then i officially declare the manga FUCKING INNACURATE.

 

[Kazamori]

It is only speculation saying that Nagato did not use all the jutsus he could in order to defeat Naruto. He died just after he used the reviving jutsu which means he did not have any other chakra, which means he used whatever he had in order to win.

There are many people who could have avoided Chibaku. Some of them are Kakashi,Madara,Itachi,Zetsu and Naruto

That moon thing was just insane Even 8 tails got trapped there

 

[zumorikato]

O I can just see it.

Sasuke came back to fight Naruto, sasuke getting his @$$ handed to him on a platter.

(Crawling back to Madara)
Sasuke: But But how can this be? With my cheap sharingan I was not able to beat the host of the 9tails? Why Why, I need to take my brothers eyes, but I cant that means I will have to repent from my heathen ways and confess that the sharingan is ultimately cheap!

Naruto to Sasuke: Next in line please.

 

[zumorikato]

That moon thing was just insane Even 8 tails got trapped there

Where did the 8tails get trapped in there?

 

[naturo9]

imo naruto since he mastered how to collect natures chakra, he needs to learn how to make a ball of nature chakra (i.e genki dama) to blast tobi/madara or sasuke away. and he needs to learn how to teleport like guko.

giant rasengan = genki dama??

 

[Kazamori]

Where did the 8tails get trapped in there?

9-tails Fox , but it was with 8-tails only

 

[peaceful]

Please refrain from posting such things like "do you read the manga" because you humiliate yourself when i proove you wrong...

Rinnegan weaker than mangekyou??

rinnegan only as strong as base sharingan??

Yes it is. At least when the users are Madara and Itachi even base sharingan is stronger than Rinnegan.

Itachi had mangekyou, and even itachi, required tobi/madaras help (who also has Eternal mangekyou sharingan, and at least base sharingan too) in order to kill one CLAN (the Uchiha)

Show me a page that Nagato killed a Sharingan user with Chibaku tensei or any other devastating jutsuwhen he attacked Konoha...Also you fail to understand simple concepts. So let me ask you: Do you read the manga? Itachi only wanted to assasinate the Uchihas, not completely destroy the village. Also he assasinated Uchihas, not some fodder Konoha citizens. Also keep in mind that Sharingan is best when fighting one on one. Also, in the manga Itachi was shown not to even be exhausted.

Pain, in ONE JUTSU, wiped out an entire fucking village and you somehow think sharingan is stronger??

See above...

It is even said by jiraiya etc, that rinnegan is the divine doujutsu, prophecy to drown a world in despair or heal it of death.

I cannot see how this makes Rineggan more proficient than Sharingan.

Don't get me wrong, i think sharingan kicks ass, but to actually consider sasuke stronger than pain is just absolutely hilarious.

No this is not hilarious. It is hilarious when you do not read the words i use.

Sasuke died like 3 times against 8 tails to be saved by sucking on blood, some weird shark dude getting in the way and juugo of dickheadery doing some weird age jutsu to heal sasuke.

-facepalm-

Pain on the other hand would pwn 8 tails in 1 minute, if he really wanted to.

Speculation.

Pain showed an ability to fight and stalemate 6tailed kyuubi and still had a jutsu up his sleeve to slow down and counter 8tailed kyuubi.

Sorry but sasuke is just a bitch, always has been always will be.

We all know that you are objective.

 

[Mugiwara]

The problem with nagato using rinnegan vs naruto was that he didnt want him to die, he was a host afterall, so nagato held back, to not kill him, but he was defeated because naruto went all out.. If he wanted to kill naruto, he could have done it in an instant... As konan said, nagato is the 7th pain, master of life and death!

summon gedo mazo + bansho tenin, and the opponent is good as dead, theres no escape, if u dont know shunshin no jutsu as hanzo did.

 

[McDerator]

If he wanted to kill naruto, he could have done it in an instant

In my opinion that's just:

Speculation.

 

[KASTAWAY]

Please refrain from posting such things like "do you read the manga" because you humiliate yourself when i proove you wrong...

Yes it is. At least when the users are Madara and Itachi even base sharingan is stronger than Rinnegan.


Show me a page that Nagato killed a Sharingan user with Chibaku tensei or any other devastating jutsuwhen he attacked Konoha...Also you fail to understand simple concepts. So let me ask you: Do you read the manga? Itachi only wanted to assasinate the Uchihas, not completely destroy the village. Also he assasinated Uchihas, not some fodder Konoha citizens. Also keep in mind that Sharingan is best when fighting one on one. Also, in the manga Itachi was shown not to even be exhausted.

See above...

I cannot see how this makes Rineggan more proficient than Sharingan.

No this is not hilarious. It is hilarious when you do not read the words i use.

-facepalm-

Speculation.




We all know that you are objective.

i LIKE THIS POST OVERALL, BUT THE Rinneggan is much more powerful than the Sharingan,
the rinneggan has so many benefits that its hard to go into but, shared vision, master all elemental jutsu, overpower chakra flows, control died and alive bodies, control over gravity, can revive those he killed on the battlefield, eye's don't wear out. and lastly don't have to embrace darkness and evil to gain more power (killing a friend, taking someones eye's)

 

[peaceful]

Please refrain from posting such things like "do you read the manga" because you humiliate yourself when i proove you wrong...


i LIKE THIS POST OVERALL, BUT THE Rinneggan is much more powerful than the Sharingan,
the rinneggan has so many benefits that its hard to go into but, shared vision, master all elemental jutsu, overpower chakra flows, control died and alive bodies, control over gravity, can revive those he killed on the battlefield, eye's don't wear out. and lastly don't have to embrace darkness and evil to gain more power (killing a friend, taking someones eye's)

Sharingan:abillity to discern chakra. Cause confusion to the opponent. Proficience to genjutsu. Ability to copy any movement or jutsu as shown by Sasuke when he copied Lees tai and Kakashi copying rasengan from Minato. Finally ability to read opponents movement.
Mangekuy: More proficiency in Genjutsu. Amaterasu: Instant flames that can burn anyone. Tsukuyomi: Best genjutsu. Susanoo: Best jutsu we have seen untill know in the manga. Kamui: Ability to suck someone in another dimension.
Eternal mangekuy: Much more proficiency in genjutsu. And if it is Madara's eternal mangekuy power: Ability to make yourself intagible a time-space jutu better than the one the fourth used.

 

[KASTAWAY]

Sharingan:abillity to discern chakra. Cause confusion to the opponent. Proficience to genjutsu. Ability to copy any movement or jutsu as shown by Sasuke when he copied Lees tai and Kakashi copying rasengan from Minato. Finally ability to read opponents movement.
Mangekuy: More proficiency in Genjutsu. Amaterasu: Instant flames that can burn anyone. Tsukuyomi: Best genjutsu. Susanoo: Best jutsu we have seen untill know in the manga. Kamui: Ability to suck someone in another dimension.
Eternal mangekuy: Much more proficiency in genjutsu. And if it is Madara's eternal mangekuy power: Ability to make yourself intagible a time-space jutu better than the one the fourth used.

THE SHARINGAN YES CAN DO A LOT, BUT WE KNOW VERY LITTLE ABOUT THE EMS SO LETS NOT TALK ABOUT THAT MUCH. BUT THE SHARINGAN IS LIMITED BY THE ABILITY OF THE BODY WITHIN IT, AND THE SHARINGAN AT HIGHER LEVELS IS LIMITED BY BLINDNESS. AND THEIR HAVE ONLY BEEN THREE PEOPLE WITH THE UPGRADED SHARINGAN TO MS AND ONLY ONE WITH EMS. DON'T GET ME WRONG THE SHARINGAN IS A GREAT, BUT ITS NOT STRONGER THEN THE RINNIGAN.