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Itachi still has KA, the Yata Mirror, and the Totsuka blade at his disposal. There's also the fact that even with Sasuke having calmed down, his intelligence is still inferior to Itachi's, which is a huge part of a fight.

There's no doubt in my mind that he'll surpass his brother in the next few chapters, but as of now, he's still a bit below his brother, in my opinion.

Could be, but Itachi was already losing his vision at the point of fighting Sasuke, he could only sustain his Susanoo because he knew he was going to die and it didn't matter. In a serious fight, he would be way more careful, and it would put quite the strain on his body, Sasuke doesn't have that. They are brothers, and Itachi always wanted Sasuke to surpass him.
 

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Could be, but Itachi was already losing his vision at the point of fighting Sasuke, he could only sustain his Susanoo because he knew he was going to die and it didn't matter. In a serious fight, he would be way more careful, and it would put quite the strain on his body, Sasuke doesn't have that. They are brothers, and Itachi always wanted Sasuke to surpass him.

Couldn't have said it better myself!
 

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Facts:

- Before using Tsukuyomi, Itachi needs to activate his Sharingan and/or MS, which would already make people be aware of the attack. Tsukuyomi can't be used without MS. You act as if Itachi already has MS on when he fights

- Tsukuyomi is a close range attack, so long range fighters have nothing to fear with Tsukuyomi. As long as you fight in mid-long range, whether you see Itachi's eyes or not, it would change nothing

- Tsukuyomi is a eye-genjutsu, which means that even if Itachi wants to activate it with his MS, as long as you don't look in his eyes, you've nothing to fear about it

Fact is that anyone who watches into Itachi's eyes is dead, if you really believe that anyone can fight Itachi without looking into his eyes you're totally wrong. Itachi is way too strong and smart and will find a way to force people to watch into his eyes. Besides most characters wouldn't even know about Tsukuyomi so they would have been ****ed right away anyways...
 

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yeah..but Itachis is totally not a fodder type.. if you look up its right eye you have such a big chance of being cut by Tsuki..only top7 Characters has the change then
Yeah but here you already talks about Itachi's skills to bring you to watch his left MS in order to put you in his tsukuyomi, what i'm not trying to say here. What i'm trying to show is the prevention an opponent can make while facing Itachi. Now it all depends on his skills of being able to applicate it perfectly or not
Fact is that anyone who watches into Itachi's eyes is dead, if you really believe that anyone can fight Itachi without looking into his eyes you're totally wrong. Itachi is way too strong and smart and will find a way to force people to watch into his eyes. Besides most characters wouldn't even know about Tsukuyomi so they would have been ****ed right away anyways...
No it's not a fact since like i've said, long range fighters have nothing to fear with Itachi's tsukuyomi whether they see his eye or not. Also, every ninja knows Tsukuyomi now. The goal of this war is even infinite tsukuyomi...
 
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Yeah but here you already talks about Itachi's skills to bring you to watch his left MS in order to put you in his tsukuyomi, what i'm not trying to say here. What i'm trying to show is the prevention an opponent can make while facing Itachi. Now it all depends on his skills of being able to applicate it perfectly or not
my man...i agree :scorps:
 

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Yeah but here you already talks about Itachi's skills to bring you to watch his left MS in order to put you in his tsukuyomi, what i'm not trying to say here. What i'm trying to show is the prevention an opponent can make while facing Itachi. Now it all depends on his skills of being able to applicate it perfectly or not

Its hard to prevent his attacks because you'll never know if he's gonna use tsukuyomi or amaterasu, And if you try to predict that he's gonna use tsukuyomi you might just end up getting burned alive
 

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Could be, but Itachi was already losing his vision at the point of fighting Sasuke, he could only sustain his Susanoo because he knew he was going to die and it didn't matter. In a serious fight, he would be way more careful, and it would put quite the strain on his body, Sasuke doesn't have that. They are brothers, and Itachi always wanted Sasuke to surpass him.
If the fight really was serious, he would have thrown the Amaterasu in his face, not on his wing. It may not put as much strain on Sasuke, but I believe the things I mentioned in my previous post make up for that.

Sasuke will definitely surpass Itachi, but as of now, I don't see him being stronger. Note that when it comes to Top Tens, it should not be judged by a shinobi's performance against another specific shinobi, but rather on overall performance.
 

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All you need is to focus on his right eye and you could see Amaterasu coming while avoiding tsukuyomi at the same time since tsukuyomi can only be released by Itachi's left eye. During the prep time of Amaterasu anyway, there is a pressure that every experimented ninja could notice(Zetsu, Jiraya, Nagato all sensed that pressure)

Focus on his right eye and see Amaturasu coming? HAHAHA, Jiraiya didn't even know what those blackflames were, do you really think that anyone would know which eye uses which technique? HAHAHA.
 

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Itachi still solo's.
 

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If the fight really was serious, he would have thrown the Amaterasu in his face, not on his wing. It may not put as much strain on Sasuke, but I believe the things I mentioned in my previous post make up for that.

Sasuke will definitely surpass Itachi, but as of now, I don't see him being stronger. Note that when it comes to Top Tens, it should not be judged by a shinobi's performance against another specific shinobi, but rather on overall performance.

I agree, Sasuke hasn't surpass itachi yet... Itachi still have Yata mirror,Sword of totsuka, Izanami and Yaska Magatama... Jutsu's sasuke don't have...yet
 

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Its hard to prevent his attacks because you'll never know if he's gonna use tsukuyomi or amaterasu, And if you try to predict that he's gonna use tsukuyomi you might just end up getting burned alive
Amaterasu's prep time has been portrayed to be particularly slow especially in Itachi's case. Before the release of Amaterasu against Sasuke, Itachi needed to close his left eye and concentrate weaving handseals, leaving a pressure in the entire room that Zetsu noticed. When he used Amaterasu to go out of Jiraya's summoning technique, Jiraya also noticed that pressure. When he wanted to use Amaterasu on Naruto, Nagato also noticed that pressure and Bee almost left a hole in his head if not Nagato's Shinra tensei to protect him. Amaterasu doesn't come out just like that
 

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Amaterasu's prep time has been portrayed to be particularly slow especially in Itachi's case. Before the release of Amaterasu against Sasuke, Itachi needed to close his left eye and concentrate weaving handseals, leaving a pressure in the entire room that Zetsu noticed. When he used Amaterasu to go out of Jiraya's summoning technique, Jiraya also noticed that pressure. When he wanted to use Amaterasu on Naruto, Nagato also noticed that pressure and Bee almost left a hole in his head if not Nagato's Shinra tensei to protect him. Amaterasu doesn't come out just like that

I thought we were talking about a healthy itachi here :erm:
 

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I wonder how he died ? if he is invincible ?
 

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I thought we were talking about a healthy itachi here :erm:
I used an example coming from Edo Itachi who is a much better version than the fanon "healthy" Itachi you're talking about
 

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I used an example coming from Edo Itachi who is a much better version than the fanon "healthy" Itachi you're talking about

Well then edo itachi should be able to execute amaterasu faster than it was shown in the manga
 

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I wonder how he died ? if he is invincible ?

It seems illness was his only true defeat. I still don't know why people say Sasuke killed him. He died from being sick. Yes Sasuke weakened him greatly, but his death came after he had a supposed heart attack it seems. He held on long enough to scare Sasuke and then poke him.
 

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fact: itachi got one-shotted by crow.:cool:
 
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