Tobirama stronger than Hiruzen? Prove it.

[sagedog]

Ever since he came back the Tobirama bandwagon has never been fuller but the same guys that were calling Hiruzen "god" five months ago now say Tobirama is stronger. I like Tobirama but as far I have seen nowhere has it been said that he is stronger than Hiruzen.
Or vise versa. Show me manga proof please.

 

[Penguin]

Ever since he came back the Tobirama bandwagon has never been fuller but the same guys that were calling Hiruzen "god" five months ago now say Tobirama is stronger. I like Tobirama but as far I have seen nowhere has it been said that he is stronger than Hiruzen.
Or vise versa. Show me manga proof please.

Hiruzen was having a hard time with a weak Tobirama. Tobirama has gained power ups since then, like Hiraishin and Hiraishingiri. Tobirama > Hiruzen.

 

[sagedog]

He was fighting hashi oro and tobirama and last I checked he only lost cause of age if you call that losing

 

[XMrLiNdOrX]

tobirama has s/t

 

[sagedog]

Hiruzen knows all jutsu in konoha

 

[XMrLiNdOrX]

really? does he know s/t???

 

[sagedog]

He could unless you forgot who trained him

 

[S A G E]

Hiruzen knows all jutsu in konoha

Only few people have s/t

 

[GwemBaba]

Please don't compare a part 1 Hiruzen to a part 2 Tobirama. It's illogical as people (I.e Hashirama.) have been retconed and made stronger.

Hiruzen will get his time, so will Tobirama.

 

[~Puppet Master~]

Hiruzen knows all jutsu in konoha

However, he has only shown us two elements.

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Other ones are his Enma summoning and Shadow clone jutsu. He's also very old and not agile, Tobirama's water style counters Hiruzen's fire style. Do I have to go on?

 

[Penguin]

He could unless you forgot who trained him

He has not shown it. He does not have it.

Tobirama > Hiruzen.

 

[Totsuka gg Amaterasu gg]

Hiruzen was having a hard time with a weak Tobirama. Tobirama has gained power ups since then, like Hiraishin and Hiraishingiri. Tobirama > Hiruzen.

a weak Hiruzen was having hard time with a weak Tobirama, a weak Hashirama and Orochimaru (even if he was arrogant as f*ck just like always)

 

[XMrLiNdOrX]

well if s/t isnt enuf, he has edo..... clearly hiruzen cant handle that jutsu, since he resorted to sacrificing his own life just to take care of edos

 

[sagedog]

Please don't compare a part 1 Hiruzen to a part 2 Tobirama. It's illogical as people (I.e Hashirama.) have been retconed and made stronger.

Hiruzen will get his time, so will Tobirama.

True. And I know Hiruzen has been a huge hype so now I want to see it.

 

[i OblivioN i]

Old Hiruzen solod Edo Hashi and Edo Tobirama

Hirzen is a God of Shinobi while Tobirama is only called 2nd Hokage

Itachi > Hiruzen > Tobirama

 

[Penguin]

a weak Hiruzen was having hard time with a weak Tobirama, a weak Hashirama and Orochimaru (even if he was arrogant as f*ck just like always)

Hiruzen did have a hard time with Tobirama. Tobirama's water style as a weak edo made Hiruzen worried.

 

[BlacLord™]

S/T techs, master of Suiton, FTG and fought on par with MS Izuna, who was stated to be equal to Madara at that point in every way.

Hiruzen couldn't take him on despite being a mindless zombie and having but a miniscule of his might. (Don't give me the age crap, he fought toe to toe with Orochimaru for long enough.)

 

[Aertes]

Tobirama lifted a finger and Hiruzen almost had a heart attack,isn't that enough??
Srsl,Tobirama may have only show few things in battles but he got alot of hype.He was said to be the strongest Senjus along with Hashi,he defeated Izuna,who was supposed to be on par with Madara.Since those two haven't shown many things and our info for them is based mostly on hype I think Tobirama>Hiruzen.

 

[ntel]

Just wait till they get to the battlefield then you can debate who is the strongest out of the trio ..Minato,Tobirama,Hiruzen

 

[sagedog]

Just wait till they get to the battlefield then you can debate who is the strongest out of the trio ..Minato,Tobirama,Hiruzen

It will be epic