Tobirama stronger than Hiruzen? Prove it.

Percy Jackson

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He was fighting hashi oro and tobirama and last I checked he only lost cause of age if you call that losing

yeah and the last time i checked NOW they are brought almost there full power.. that's a big diff.
Hashi. in part1 arguably at least as strong as yamato. Soo same gose for his younger bro. In part 1 his water power is shown as stated as a kage lv. Current tobirama must being stronger then that!.

PLS. don't ask manga proof that 2nd > 3rd. Cuz it sounds like pls. "show me the proof that 3rd > 2nd in current state".
Still 3rd is still a bit scared of second when he lift his finger.
 

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Hiruzen >>>>> Tobirama. Better in hype and at least has feats and was seen in a fight.
 

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obviously a tobirama will beat an Old ass hiruzen.

If we're talking of Prime Hiruzen, Then by hype tobirama isn't even close.
 

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hiruzen, even old, demolishes the featless wonder. being able to teleport did not do tobi much good against kin and gin meaning it has its limits.
Hashi. in part1 arguably at least as strong as yamato.
the anbu there claimed it was a kage level fight. yamato isnt kage level
Still 3rd is still a bit scared of second when he lift his finger.
more like just wary of tobirama going on the attack. he damn near had a heart attack when hashi powered up
fought on par with MS Izuna, who was stated to be equal to Madara at that point in every way.
by a known liar deliberately making shit up to make sasuke distrust madara and has absolutely no knowledge on that era. for example did madara steal izunas eyes? do you really think izuna was top of his game and not near blind the moment tobirama stabbed him? w dont know if they were on par before that or EVER.
He was said to be the strongest Senjus
no he wasnt. you literally made that up
Tobirama lifted a finger and Hiruzen almost had a heart attack
nope that was hashirama
he defeated Izuna,who was supposed to be on par with Madara
lol he cut a blind man. or at least severely near blind, who had just been fighting off multiple senjus. how can you call that a defeat? and no one reliable said anything about izunas strength. itachi is nothing to go off as he knows nothing about that time period
Hiruzen did have a hard time with Tobirama. Tobirama's water style as a weak edo made Hiruzen worried.
hiruzen CASUALLY shrugged it off with an elemental counter. tobirama was the person he was least surprised or worried about

Hiruzen was having a hard time with a weak Tobirama. T
weak old holding back hiruzen casually shrugged off and blocked with ease, immortal unlimited chakra tobiramas water
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Tobirama has gained power ups since then, like Hiraishin and Hiraishingiri. Tobirama > Hiruzen
and? hiraishin was not enough to make hiruzen afraid of tobirama when they confronted each other. hiruzen was more worried about the third coffin
 
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