[Question] Did Aizen even have a plan

[RasenUchihaChaos]

For defeating Squad Zero

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even in his Butterfly form i doubt he still could defeat them and then there is the Soul King who knows if it can attack and defend itself

not only that if he won he still then have to deal with the

remaining capts. who probably who have gone in hiding

the Fullbringers

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and last but not least the Stern ritters

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and Ju Ha

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[Orochimaruofthesound]

even for the manga i do not count fullbringers as cannon

 

[TheHokage]

Aizen was stronger than all the Zero members and Juhabach in his transcended form same with Ichigo's Danagi form.

 

[Ecstasy]

I can't say that I don't believe he could beat them one on one. But if any of the Zero squad teamed up against him I think that would've pretty much been game over. Looks like Aizen was severely outclassed from the get go. Exactly why one villain shouldn't be made out to have controlled the story and Ichigo's encounters from the get go. Looks like Kubo's repeating himself with Juha bach as wel cuz once again the enemy seems to know more about Ichigo than he does himself.

 

[pandu]

I can't say that I don't believe he could beat them one on one. But if any of the Zero squad teamed up against him I think that would've pretty much been game over. Looks like Aizen was severely outclassed from the get go. Exactly why one villain shouldn't be made out to have controlled the story and Ichigo's encounters from the get go. Looks like Kubo's repeating himself with Juha bach as wel cuz once again the enemy seems to know more about Ichigo than he does himself.

This^_^ lol XD

 

[swagatsshovan]

I guess if yamamoto would not have been injured then it could have been a troublesome for aizen

 

[swagatsshovan]

No matter what hanatarou was there

Donno exclude him..

 

[Durante]

Aizen was stronger than all the Zero members and Juhabach in his transcended form same with Ichigo's Danagi form.

This. It has been discussed like a billion times before, whatever the case they both were OP over any character at that very moment so Titty Kubo restarted their powers.

the whole fight of Ichigo vs Aizen went at the concept of "two-dimensional being is incapable of interfering with a three-dimensional one."

If that's not enough, it's was painfuly obvious that they had been more than enough to trash anyone after merging and then fusing with their zanpakuto's. :heh:

 

[adventnova]

This. It has been discussed like a billion times before, whatever the case they both were OP over any character at that very moment so Titty Kubo restarted their powers.

the whole fight of Ichigo vs Aizen went at the concept of "two-dimensional being is incapable of interfering with a three-dimensional one."

If that's not enough, it's was painfuly obvious that they had been more than enough to trash anyone after merging and then fusing with their zanpakuto's. :heh:

Aizen didnt fuse with his Zanpakuto
And after his several states of Metamorphosis, he never once used a single ability of his zanpakuto. That was the only thing missing from that entire fight, was his merge with his Zanpakuto. He merged shinigami with hougyoku manifested hollow powers (fake hollow powers).

Ichigo had his Shinigami, Hollow and Zanpakuto all merged into one as he became his zanpakuto "Getsuga" itself.

I think Ichigo had full control of the battle form the start if he was able to make more than one final attack. Aizen, from the start could not even feel his power or presence what so ever.

yes yes, we all keep arguing that Aizen is pretty much immortal. We know Kubo wanted to make sure 2 over powered characters become properly balanced again. IF.... BIG IF... Ichigo got another Mugetsu attack off and disintegrated Aizen, he would be dead and the Hougyoku wouldve released. But Ichigo was the only one strong enough to take on Aizen, but could only weaken him enough for Urahara's kido to go off.

 

[Durante]

Aizen didnt fuse with his Zanpakuto
And after his several states of Metamorphosis, he never once used a single ability of his zanpakuto. That was the only thing missing from that entire fight, was his merge with his Zanpakuto. He merged shinigami with hougyoku manifested hollow powers (fake hollow powers).

Ichigo had his Shinigami, Hollow and Zanpakuto all merged into one as he became his zanpakuto "Getsuga" itself.

I think Ichigo had full control of the battle form the start if he was able to make more than one final attack. Aizen, from the start could not even feel his power or presence what so ever.

yes yes, we all keep arguing that Aizen is pretty much immortal. We know Kubo wanted to make sure 2 over powered characters become properly balanced again. IF.... BIG IF... Ichigo got another Mugetsu attack off and disintegrated Aizen, he would be dead and the Hougyoku wouldve released. But Ichigo was the only one strong enough to take on Aizen, but could only weaken him enough for Urahara's kido to go off.

Yes, exactly I can feel your lovee for Ichi booty so easily =D . you explained everything in a simplified way, that's what a three dimensional being is a FGT Kurosaki. Aizen on the other hand was on the way to completing that transformation aswell.

Either way, he had so many transformations, and the last one was atleast similar to FGT

In his weakened state the sword faded away, and by the time Ichigo fought that hairy man Juuga Bach Aizen being sealed (no more zanpakuto) was still able to throw off Bach perception of time in the long run.

 

[avenged sevenfold]

I can't say that I don't believe he could beat them one on one. But if any of the Zero squad teamed up against him I think that would've pretty much been game over. Looks like Aizen was severely outclassed from the get go. Exactly why one villain shouldn't be made out to have controlled the story and Ichigo's encounters from the get go. Looks like Kubo's repeating himself with Juha bach as wel cuz once again the enemy seems to know more about Ichigo than he does himself.

This is it basically

 

[adventnova]

Yes, exactly I can feel your lovee for Ichi booty so easily =D . you explained everything in a simplified way, that's what a three dimensional being is a FGT Kurosaki. Aizen on the other hand was on the way to completing that transformation aswell.

Either way, he had so many transformations, and the last one was atleast similar to FGT

In his weakened state the sword faded away, and by the time Ichigo fought that hairy man Juuga Bach Aizen being sealed (no more zanpakuto) was still able to throw off Bach perception of time in the long run.

I dont really have a love for characters like most do. i have an interest in how well and detailed a story line is and how it intrigues me. Yes characters build the storyline as you cant have a story without one. if i had to choose a character it would be Kaien, because he has been the most mysterious to me yet.

 

[Durante]

I dont really have a love for characters like most do. i have an interest in how well and detailed a story line is and how it intrigues me. Yes characters build the storyline as you cant have a story without one. if i had to choose a character it would be Kaien, because he has been the most mysterious to me yet.

You are right indeed, that fella Kaien should receive more air time, barely developed character.

 

[namikaze natsu]

Aizen always has a plan......evolution, if urahara hadnt separated him from the orb of destruction, he would have kept evolving

 

[P3ĮÑ]

I still can't get over his troll death

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Aizen always has a plan......evolution, if urahara hadnt separated him from the orb of destruction, he would have kept evolving

funny thing is Orihime is aizens destruction she can destroy or negate the power of the hogyoku

 

[TheHokage]

I still can't get over his troll death

Aizen wasn't killed...

 

[NLee]

1) At the time, the evolved Aizen could have taken Squad Zero.
2) Aizen doesn't even use his Bankai. The Stern Ritters would have been beaten even worse than they did by Zaraki.
3) Same as above. Aizen doesn't use his Bankai so Juha has no advantage. I'd reckon evolved Aizen would have made little work of him too.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

1) At the time, the evolved Aizen could have taken Squad Zero.
2) Aizen doesn't even use his Bankai. The Stern Ritters would have been beaten even worse than they did by Zaraki.
3) Same as above. Aizen doesn't use his Bankai so Juha has no advantage. I'd reckon evolved Aizen would have made little work of him too.

i have come to believe he doesnt have bankai simply because he has no from what we seen any relationship with kyoka

 

[adventnova]

i have come to believe he doesnt have bankai simply because he has no from what we seen any relationship with kyoka

He has only used his Bankai once! and that was when (i forget which captain explained) they back tracked Aizen's plan saying that once he learned his bankai he wanted to show everyone and invited all the captains and lieutenants to the court garden to show it off and they all explained it was mystical illusions and water effects. That was the only time he needed to use bankai. its true we have never seen it in action in the anime or manga.