[Suggestion] General Discussion section abused?:

[BusinessManTeno]

And just a small warning, if you post a useless thread (yes, I mean useless in a sense that it has nothing to do with what General Discussion is for, or even if the thread is just a random discussion without any explanation towards it) I will not hesitate to infract and trash. Neither are the other mods, so be warned about it really. It seems discouraging with threats is the only way it works, which is a pity.

Threats don't work.

OT: Lawliet, or anybody out there . Is there a way where we can try to put the chatterbox section back up where it can be shown .... I mean... Honestly speaking I'm guilty of doing that a lot for the sole purpose of nobody goes to chatterbox. The troll level has gone down *troll face* tehe and yea.... :/

 

[Avani]

If it were only chat threads which were posted wrongly in GD I would agree, but that's not the case. GD is not the only section to be spammed this way and chat threads aren't the only ones posted wrongly. We have to move threads from different sections all the time.

Besides- Exactly how many of you keep clicking on home page to see the latest threads? If you are a registered user and shouldn 't you looking for threads/new posts at NB?

You must be registered for see images

There are also today's topics, and new posts options. These links are much more helpful in checking out the interesting discussions.

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

^ This though not sure if you can access these links directly or have to click on the option from top bars yourself.

There are hardly five threads listed at the home page at a time and not even stay there for long at a forum as busy as NB. Honestly I don't even get what's all this fuss about.


Funny history:

Or do the threads you make in chatterbox dont appear on the home page as the latest threads even if you just made them?

Nononono, this is a thing they've set. The threads in the chatterbox section are usually pointless and thus they probably are not viewed as 'worth' to be put in that list.

Threats don't work.

OT: Lawliet, or anybody out there . Is there a way where we can try to put the chatterbox section back up where it can be shown .... I mean... Honestly speaking I'm guilty of doing that a lot for the sole purpose of nobody goes to chatterbox. The troll level has gone down *troll face* tehe and yea.... :/

Threats don't work Teno if they are not backed up with action. I assure you it's not just a threat.

People who post threads in wrong section for seeking attention are simply asking for attention from mods and deletion of their threads.

If a thread doesn't get that many hits it's usually because it wasn't interesting enough. There are chatterbox threads which have over thousand replies.

 

[Wesobi]

Oh, ok. But you'll still make the distinction between new and old members, right? Because it feels as if some new members would misunderstand the GD section completely, probably not reading reading the description to begin with, but rather seeing what other threads are in it, following suit. Sounds stupid, yet still.

That's a problem we can't help. We can point it out, tell it, yell it, heck, we could force you to read the rules by using some kind of plugin for all I know, but in the end it's the users who need to do it properly.

You can teach a dog to stop chasing his tail either.

As for the wrong threads in it, they wouldn't be there if people would stop trolling and read the description, which brings me back to my first point and makes my point go into an infinite circle/dividing by zero.

 

[UchihaBrat]

Exactly how many of you keep clicking on home page to see the latest threads? If you are a registered user and shouldn 't you looking for threads/new posts at NB?

You must be registered for see images

There are also today's topics, and new posts options. These links are much more helpful in checking out the interesting discussions.

You must be registered for see links

You must be registered for see links

^ This though not sure if you can access these links directly or have to click on the option from top bars yourself.

There are hardly five threads listed at the home page at a time and not even stay there for long at a forum as busy as NB. Honestly I don't even get what's all this fuss about.

Funny history:

I do that, kind of like a reflex, the home page button as well as the forums button. Never really use today's topics or new posts.
Don't quite understand the second question; do you mean that, being registered users, that we should be looking for new threads/posts at NB, as in through the different forums or different functions such as today's topics, rather than??

Well I, for example, have rather parituclar interests and don't really venture many places other than the GD, Chatterbox sections, but mainly anime, manga & comics section; others only occasionally.

The fuss is about the GD section probably suffering from what I believe has been confirmed by at least a few people in this thread; members intentionally(possibly also unintentionally) placing threads in the wrong sections as a consequence of wanting attention to their threads which isn't attainable through making them in the Chatterbox, which is often the section most suitable.

How's that funny?

@Wesobi: I see, indeed the responsibility lies with the users as you can only do that much without seeming like complete control freaks.
I think though, as trolling is rather a relative term here, with which I mean that I believe the reasons spans beyond simple trolling sometimes in the cases of "misplaced" threads; rather, they post in the GD, not with he intention to troll, but just in order to get the attention they consider their threads worthy of, which really makes this a matter of compromise, which I've been trying to point out, as it's sad to see how disorganised it gets, as a member and I bet, as moderators yourselves.
So all in all, my point is: Letting newly made chatterbox threads show in the today's topics page, isn't it worth it if it means a shrinking amount of misplaced threads?

 

[Zombie]

We should just get rid of the GD section anyway. As if there is ever an original discussion there anyway.

Chatterbox is better off now too.

 

[UchihaBrat]

We should just get rid of the GD section anyway. As if there is ever an original discussion there anyway.

Chatterbox is better off now too.

If it is a question about originality and how that should have any impact on whether a section should exist or not: I would like it if you defined originality in this context, please; because if I'm not misunderstanding things, there're a lot more sections than the GD in need of removal, no?

 

[Zombie]

If it is a question about originality and how that should have any impact on whether a section should exist or not: I would like it if you defined originality in this context, please; because if I'm not misunderstanding things, there're a lot more sections than the GD in need of removal, no?

I fully concur with the idea that many sections should be removed. Though getting into that matter would be considered delving into off-topic-ness. As for original content, perhaps the GD section could be saved with stickied threads for discussing commonly brought up topics, i.e. religion. Of course, that's also probing into off topic concepts.

Though, I must correct myself in use of the term original and in turn replace it with the term 'quality.' Once in a blue moon an original topic (generally a copy and paste of a news article) is posted in GD.

 

[UchihaBrat]

I fully concur with the idea that many sections should be removed. Though getting into that matter would be considered delving into off-topic-ness. As for original content, perhaps the GD section could be saved with stickied threads for discussing commonly brought up topics, i.e. religion. Of course, that's also probing into off topic concepts.

Though, I must correct myself in use of the term original and in turn replace it with the term 'quality.' Once in a blue moon an original topic (generally a copy and paste of a news article) is posted in GD.

Oh, well, if you say. If it's off-topic.

 

[Avani]

I do that, kind of like a reflex, the home page button as well as the forums button. Never really use today's topics or new posts.
Don't quite understand the second question; do you mean that, being registered users, that we should be looking for new threads/posts at NB, as in through the different forums or different functions such as today's topics, rather than??

Well I, for example, have rather parituclar interests and don't really venture many places other than the GD, Chatterbox sections, but mainly anime, manga & comics section; others only occasionally.

The fuss is about the GD section probably suffering from what I believe has been confirmed by at least a few people in this thread; members intentionally(possibly also unintentionally) placing threads in the wrong sections as a consequence of wanting attention to their threads which isn't attainable through making them in the Chatterbox, which is often the section most suitable.

How's that funny?

@Wesobi: I see, indeed the responsibility lies with the users as you can only do that much without seeming like complete control freaks.
I think though, as trolling is rather a relative term here, with which I mean that I believe the reasons spans beyond simple trolling sometimes in the cases of "misplaced" threads; rather, they post in the GD, not with he intention to troll, but just in order to get the attention they consider their threads worthy of, which really makes this a matter of compromise, which I've been trying to point out, as it's sad to see how disorganised it gets, as a member and I bet, as moderators yourselves.
So all in all, my point is: Letting newly made chatterbox threads show in the today's topics page, isn't it worth it if it means a shrinking amount of misplaced threads?

Frankly if you use wrong links to find relevant threads it's your personal problem. Latest thread list isn't going to show you all the new threads just the ones posted around the time you clicked on it. There may be an important thread for GD/Chatterbox but it may overlap with 5 Sakura threads in ND and you will miss it easily.

I used the terms registered user for two reason:

First - guests cannot see "new posts". It's available only if you are logged in. Secondly those who are here regularly and are member should have located these buttons after such a long time membership.

I understand new users may miss this but older members not knowing how to look for threads are just not paying attention. Admins can provide you proper tools but you should be able to learn to use them properly.

Members placing threads in the wrong section intentionally argument is invalid as they do not do it only for these sections which are not visible on home page.

 

[Wesobi]

@Wesobi: I see, indeed the responsibility lies with the users as you can only do that much without seeming like complete control freaks.
I think though, as trolling is rather a relative term here, with which I mean that I believe the reasons spans beyond simple trolling sometimes in the cases of "misplaced" threads; rather, they post in the GD, not with he intention to troll, but just in order to get the attention they consider their threads worthy of, which really makes this a matter of compromise, which I've been trying to point out, as it's sad to see how disorganised it gets, as a member and I bet, as moderators yourselves.
So all in all, my point is: Letting newly made chatterbox threads show in the today's topics page, isn't it worth it if it means a shrinking amount of misplaced threads?

No, what's worth it is countries putting money in their educational systems so people learn how to read decently, and father being allowed to use their buckles again to spank children so they behave.

Also, Zombie, quality threads are a matter of opinion. I'm sure you'll agree to that, though I can't disagree that a lot of threads in there are just reposts of older threads and end up spamming, but that was there already long before CB wen't off the popular thread thingie.

 

[UchihaBrat]

Frankly if you use wrong links to find relevant threads it's your personal problem. Latest thread list isn't going to show you all the new threads just the ones posted around the time you clicked on it. There may be an important thread for GD?Chatterbox but it may overlap with 5 Sakura threads in ND and you will miss it easily.

I used the terms registered user for two reason:

First - guests cannot see "new posts". It's available only if you are logged in. Secondly those who are here regularly and are member should have located these buttons after such a long time membership.

I understand new users may miss this but older members not knowing how to look for threads are just not paying attention. Admins can provide you proper tools but you should be able to learn to use them properly.

Members placing threads in the wrong section intentionally argument is invalid as they do not do it only for these sections which are not visible on home page.

All right, I give up arguing about this as I seem to be the only one still in favour of you taking it into consideration.

No, what's worth it is countries putting money in their educational systems so people learn how to read decently, and father being allowed to use their buckles again to spank children so they behave.

Also, Zombie, quality threads are a matter of opinion. I'm sure you'll agree to that, though I can't disagree that a lot of threads in there are just reposts of older threads and end up spamming, but that was there already long before CB wen't off the popular thread thingie.

Well, this is what I wanted to shed some light upon; whether it was worth considering or not, and if you think it isn't, I'll take your word for it and do as Lawliet says(report misplaced threads).

Thanks for everyone's time!