Misconceptions on Susano'o

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Draphsin

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Different cases. Nothing in the manga has contradicted this fact, so you can't say it's false simply because something else was proven wrong. That's dumb logic.

Until you can show me something that explicitly falsifies the databook, then we're just gonna have to agree to disagree even though I'm right.

The only known caster of susanoo is Itachi, according to your

Not only does that prove its outdated, but it also says on that databook that susanoo wields totsuka/yata mirror. I dont see madara or sasuke with those weapons, you know why? because that databook entry only refers to Itachi.

Disagree all you want, the odds are stacked against you, also sasuke stated that you only need both MS eyes to unlock susanoo, once again proving the databooks credibility wrong ;)
 

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l2ead he said that after many sacrifices they learned how to awaken ems. people saw madara take his brothers' eyes and they thought that any two people with ms could swap and get ems. but after many many sacrifices they learned that it had to be between clan members and even then not eveyone got ems powers.



thats why he said awakening ama is rare? thats why he said awakening enton is rare? no. susano is different because you don't just get it with your ms. thats why obito singled out that ability. its not to do with the ms being rare or ms powers being rare. its to do with susano being rare because not many people get ama and tsukuyomi.

Obito does not have Susano'o because he has 1 MS. Madara has not shown the ability to use Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi so you must have 2 MS to activate Susano'o until the manga proves me wrong.
 

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Obito does not have Susano'o because he has 1 MS. Madara has not shown the ability to use Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi so you must have 2 MS to activate Susano'o until the manga proves me wrong.

i asked you to tell me why obito said awakening susano is rare and you havent been able to give me a legit answer. why didnt obito say awakening amaterasu is rare? why didn't obito say awakening tsukuyomi is rare? according to you, ms is rare, so why didn't obito just say that sharingan which unlock ms are rare? why did he single out susano? because its obviously rare and different from the rest because it relies on two abilities. two abilities which are amaterasu and tsukuyomi.
 

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l2ead he said that after many sacrifices they learned how to awaken ems. people saw madara take his brothers' eyes and they thought that any two people with ms could swap and get ems. but after many many sacrifices they learned that it had to be between clan members and even then not eveyone got ems powers.



thats why he said awakening ama is rare? thats why he said awakening enton is rare? no. susano is different because you don't just get it with your ms. thats why obito singled out that ability. its not to do with the ms being rare or ms powers being rare. its to do with susano being rare because not many people get ama and tsukuyomi.

Hold on a second, whats your point? how does this relate to susanoo needing ama/tsukuyomi?

Even if susanoo is rare, so what? that in no way means that you need ama & tsukuyomi for it?
 

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i asked you to tell me why obito said awakening susano is rare and you havent been able to give me a legit answer. why didnt obito say awakening amaterasu is rare? why didn't obito say awakening tsukuyomi is rare? according to you, ms is rare, so why didn't obito just say that sharingan which unlock ms are rare? why did he single out susano? because its obviously rare and different from the rest because it relies on two abilities. two abilities which are amaterasu and tsukuyomi.

I did give you an answer. Not many people have awakened MS. Want to list them? Madara, Izuna, Sasuke, Itachi, Obito, Kakashi. That is a rare amount of people for such a long time the Uchiha's have been around. That is why MS and Susano'o are so rare.
 

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Hold on a second, whats your point? how does this relate to susanoo needing ama/tsukuyomi?

Even if susanoo is rare, so what? that in no way means that you need ama & tsukuyomi for it?

you say only the double ms is needed. i posted a page which proves ms in history wasnt rare because many many sacrifices were made. susano has been said to be rare. susano has said to require amaterasu and tskuyomi.

do the math.

I did give you an answer. Not many people have awakened MS. Want to list them? Madara, Izuna, Sasuke, Itachi, Obito, Kakashi. That is a rare amount of people for such a long time the Uchiha's have been around. That is why MS and Susano'o are so rare.

i already posted a page in the manga which clearly shows that the ms is not rare. you are arguing with the manga. you keep making this point but it fails hard. why didnt obito just say 'sharingan that unlock the ms are rare?' why did he single out susano? because it has nothing to do with the ms being rare. it is to do with susano being rare.
 

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The one where Tobi said that Sasuke's eyes are rare because they can awaken Susano'o? That page? Well, he is saying it is rare, because out of all the people in the world, only Madara, Izuna, Kakashi, Obito, Itachi, Shisui, and Sasuke have awakened the MS.
 

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it shows that a lot of people had MS, that's why they were able to do so many tests to try and unlock EMS
 

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you say only the double ms is needed. i posted a page which proves ms in history wasnt rare because many many sacrifices were made. susano has been said to be rare. susano has said to require amaterasu and tskuyomi.

do the math.

lmao....

The double MS is needed, but who said susanoo still cant be rare?

MS is required, that is fact. ama and tsukuyomi are not required, otherwise sasuke would've mentioned it to confirm the outdated databooks credibility.

So far as i see it, that page only applies to itachi, unless you agree that all 3 susanoos possess totsuka & yata, because thats what it says too.
 
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lmao....

The double MS is needed, but who said susanoo still cant be rare?

MS is required, that is fact. ama and tsukuyomi are not required, otherwise sasuke would've mentioned it to confirm the outdated databooks credibility.

So far as i see it, that page only applies to itachi, unless you agree that all 3 susanoos possess totsuka & yata, because thats what it says too.

Exactly what I am saying.
 

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lmao....

The double MS is needed, but who said susanoo still cant be rare?

MS is required, that is fact. ama and tsukuyomi are not required, otherwise sasuke would've mentioned it to confirm the outdated databooks credibility.

So far as i see it, that page only applies to itachi, unless you agree that all 3 susanoos possess totsuka & yata, because thats what it says too.

-you say the double ms is needed
-you agree ms isnt rare
-you say susano can still be rare

-says you get susano with ms
-says ms can be rare whilst susano cant be rare

where is your SENSE?
 

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I agree, you need to awaken both powers in each eye to achieve susanoo. BTW dont hate on itachi, he's a cool guy
 

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I agree, you need to awaken both powers in each eye to achieve susanoo. BTW dont hate on itachi, he's a cool guy

It is not that I hate him, it is more that I started hating him when his fanboys spewed utter garbage about him solo'ing Hashirama, and SO6P and other stuff.

@Enton what is the hell are you saying? No one said double MS is not rare. It is rare.
 

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I totally agree with you bro, Susano'o is a technique that takes to the root of the eye's of the Mangekyo, and one of the opinions I have is that Amaterasu is a unique trait in Itachi's eye's and the only reason Sasuke has it is because Itachi implanted it in Sasuke at his death, each Mangekyo has it's own unique traits..so these so-called requirements are not how to achieve to Susano'o. It's to master your own Mangekyo and develop extremely powerful feeling/ emotions. :win:
 

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-you say the double ms is needed
-you agree ms isnt rare
-you say susano can still be rare

-says you get susano with ms
-says ms can be rare whilst susano cant be rare

where is your SENSE?

I never even said that ms is rare, and i never said that susanoo cant be rare.....Get your facts straight.
 

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I totally agree with you bro, Susano'o is a technique that takes to the root of the eye's of the Mangekyo, and one of the opinions I have is that Amaterasu is a unique trait in Itachi's eye's and the only reason Sasuke has it is because Itachi implanted it in Sasuke at his death, each Mangekyo has it's own unique traits..so these so-called requirements are not how to achieve to Susano'o. It's to master your own Mangekyo and develop extremely powerful feeling/ emotions. :win:

Could not have said it better myself. :)
 

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The one where Tobi said that Sasuke's eyes are rare because they can awaken Susano'o? That page? Well, he is saying it is rare, because out of all the people in the world, only Madara, Izuna, Kakashi, Obito, Itachi, Shisui, and Sasuke have awakened the MS.

Until you find a manga page which directly contradicts the databook, your theory remains just that. A theory. A baseless assumption.
 

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I used to disagree with this idea but I'm starting to doubt that Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu specifically are needed.

-Don't take my word as fact though.
 

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I used to disagree with this idea but I'm starting to doubt that Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu specifically are needed.

-Don't take my word as fact though.

I just wanted some feedback. Thank you for responding!
 
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