Misconceptions on Susano'o

[Penguin]

Hello folks! I just want too clear something up. You know how most people who like Uchiha say, "You need Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi to achieve Susano'o." Well they are wrong from my perspective. In my opinion, a person needs to have both Mangekyo Sharingan to achieve Susano'o, but those Sharingan need to be from the same Uchiha. You cannot have one Sasuke's MS and then take Kakashi's MS to achieve it. You need the Mangekyo Sharingan to be from the same person. Let's take a look at the facts shall we? There are three Uchiha's that have Susano'o. Madara, Itachi, and Sasuke right? Lets look a little more in depth. (Sorry for the references. For some reason I cannot actually show my proof, but I have provided links.)

Madara: Possibly the greatest Uchiha too ever live. Has not shown too have Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu, but has the ability too activate Susano'o as seen here.

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Itachi: Even though I really have a hate for him, he is a very skilled Uchiha. He has Tsukuyomi and Amaterasu. He also has the ability too activate Susano'o as seen here.

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Sasuke: Has the potential to become better than Madara or Itachi, a very skilled Uchiha. He has Amaterasu for sure, and people debate on weather or not he has Tsukuyomi. He has the ability too activate Susano'o as seen here.

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Now for the people that do not have it, that are relavent too me. We have Obito Uchiha, Kakashi Hatake, and Shisui Uchiha. Each of them are very strong, but I will point out to you why they do not have Susano'o.

Shisui: Shisui did have the ability to achieve Susano'o, but he had one problem.

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Someone stole his eye. You need both eyes to achieve Susano'o. After his eye was stolen, he lost the ability to achieve Susano'o.

Obito Uchiha: Obito could have achieved Susano'o, if it was not for his kindness. Look at what he did here.

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Obito gave away his left Sharingan, that would have evolved into a Mangekyo Sharingan. Obito only has his right Mangekyo Sharingan, which is not enough to achieve Susano'o.

Kakashi Hatake: In theory, Kakashi could achieve Susano'o, but he would need Obito's right Mangekyo Sharingan, which could be a present from Obito when Kakashi beats him. Until then though, no Susano'o for Kakashi.

In conclusion: There have been two people that have activated Susano'o that meet everyone's so called "Requirements," which are Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi, but Madara has Susano'o and does not have Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi. So what I am saying is if you have two Mangekyo Sharingan from the same person, you can achieve Susano'o.

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[GwemBaba]

Tldr......

I joke, nice effort.

 

[Penguin]

Tldr......

I joke, nice effort.

Thank you!

 

[Punk Hazard]

Databook says otherwise. Databook is written by Kishi. Kishi>you.

 

[Sephy100]

Good job. Plus Kishi already wrote in the manga that you need both Ama and Tsuku to activate Susano'o. But then again Kishi trolls us almost every week with some contradicting thing in the manga so it's hard to tell if true. One wrong(?) thing you said is that Madara doesn't have ama or tsuku but it should say that Madara hasn't shown if he has it or not. But still a good job.

 

[Lucidus]

possible theory... problem is we have no idea what 2 techs madara's eyes have... for all we know it could be amatersu and tsukoyomi .. the idea of you needing both eyes from the same person is good

it would be weird to have a kakashi with susano so i do not think this would happen... also i do not think he would have the chakra to pull of susano for long especially being a non uchiha

however nice theory non the less

 

[Enton]

if all it takes is the double ms, why is susano rare among sharingan eyes?

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obviously theres a specific requirement people have to meet to get it. anyone can awaken the double ms under the right conditions. not everyone will get ama & tsukuyomi so thats why susano is rare.

 

[Sensational]

Databook says otherwise. Databook is written by Kishi. Kishi>you.

I suppose you still think Tobi is Madara cause the databook said so.

The databook is outdated.

 

[Penguin]

if all it takes is the double ms, why is susano rare among sharingan eyes?

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obviously theres a specific requirement people have to meet to get it. anyone can awaken the double ms under the right conditions. not everyone will get ama & tsukuyomi so thats why susano is rare.

It is rare because the MS is rare. <3

 

[hatake89]

good theory but disagree on some points.

 

[Draphsin]

if all it takes is the double ms, why is susano rare among sharingan eyes?

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obviously theres a specific requirement people have to meet to get it. anyone can awaken the double ms under the right conditions. not everyone will get ama & tsukuyomi so thats why susano is rare.

No, obito could just be saying that all MS eyes in general are rare. How many known uchiha possess MS?

OT: strongly agree, not only has madara not shown any signs of ama or tsukuyomi but the precious databook that everyone looks to is outdated.

It says right on the top that the only known user of susanoo is Itachi, how can anything on that databook page be referring to sasuke/madara if the only known user is Itachi?

 

[Sot viing hun]

I believe you are right, Sasuke said that if you possess the mangekyou in both eyes you can achieve susanoo, I'm aware the databook says you need both amaterasu and tsukuyomi, but that could be the case only for Itachi, as he was the only known susanoo user at the moment the databook was written.

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[Enton]

It is rare because the MS is rare. <3

nope, plain and simple said that sharingan which can get susano are rare. anyone can get the ms under the right circumstances. even a non uchiha like kakashi got it. itachi even said many many sacrifices occured so that the uchiha could learn the secrets of the ems. ms is not rare. ama and tsukuyomi are.

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[Draphsin]

nope, plain and simple said that sharingan which can get susano are rare. anyone can get the ms under the right circumstances. even a non uchiha like kakashi got it. itachi even said many many sacrifices occured so that the uchiha could learn the secrets of the ems. ms is not rare. ama and tsukuyomi are.

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You realize he's talking about EMS, right...?

 

[Penguin]

nope, plain and simple said that sharingan which can get susano are rare. anyone can get the ms under the right circumstances. even a non uchiha like kakashi got it. itachi even said many many sacrifices occured so that the uchiha could learn the secrets of the ems. ms is not rare. ama and tsukuyomi are.

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"Under the right circumstance?" Anyone can get Susano'o under the right circumstance. That is why MS is rare. It has to be a very select circumstance to obtain MS. Even unlocking the 3T sharingan is a good feat.

 

[BISHOPALONE]

Databook is crap, focus on the manga, Kishi trolls on the databooks and delivers the real thing in the manga........You just have to awaken the ms and awake its powers then use the susano. Itachi's sharingan has the Tsukyuomi and Amaterasu as his powers.

 

[Punk Hazard]

I suppose you still think Tobi is Madara cause the databook said so.

The databook is outdated.

Different cases. Nothing in the manga has contradicted this fact, so you can't say it's false simply because something else was proven wrong. That's dumb logic.

Until you can show me something that explicitly falsifies the databook, then we're just gonna have to agree to disagree even though I'm right.

 

[Rike Senju]

Until the manga contradicts the databook then your theory will be correct. Up to now it's just an assumption.

 

[The Western Wheel]

[THEORY]

We will find out later on, that Itachi and Sasuke are of Madara's heritage. That's why they have Susanno', I think. Think about it, of ALL Uchiha's, only the Madara & bro have it, and later on two other brothers have it.

Obito wanted to sync Sasuke, because he has Tsuki, like Itachi, like Madara.

 

[Enton]

You realize he's talking about EMS, right...?

l2ead he said that after many sacrifices they learned how to awaken ems. people saw madara take his brothers' eyes and they thought that any two people with ms could swap and get ems. but after many many sacrifices they learned that it had to be between clan members and even then not eveyone got ems powers.

"Under the right circumstance?" Anyone can get Susano'o under the right circumstance. That is why MS is rare. It has to be a very select circumstance to obtain MS. Even unlocking the 3T sharingan is a good feat.

thats why he said awakening ama is rare? thats why he said awakening enton is rare? no. susano is different because you don't just get it with your ms. thats why obito singled out that ability. its not to do with the ms being rare or ms powers being rare. its to do with susano being rare because not many people get ama and tsukuyomi.