[VS] Sasori Vs. Itachi / Sasori Vs. Minato

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Gaara had to use the sand already at Madara's feet to make contact with him. He can't slip it under Susanoo and make contact with Itachi, what is so hard to understand about this simple concept.

Also Susanoo can be activated in 1/1000th of a second. It doesn't matter if he doesn't start in Susanoo because he can simply call it when he needs it.
Show me a scan on if Susano'o is sealed air tight. How could they breathe if nothing can get through? Common sense points twords the bottom of Susano'o. Air goes through the bottom. If it was air tight too wear sand cannot get through, he would die of oxygen deprivation.
 

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Show me a scan on if Susano'o is sealed air tight. How could they breathe if nothing can get through? Common sense points twords the bottom of Susano'o. Air goes through the bottom. If it was air tight too wear sand cannot get through, he would die of oxygen deprivation.
The fact that Gaara commented that he needed to use the sand already existing under his feet to make contact with him proves that your method can't work.



You just pulled the bold straight out of your arse.
 

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Gaara defended from Enton which evidently is slower than its integral... Considering speed from the beginning of naruto was shown to be the weak point of Gaara's defence.. amaterasu, being one of the fastest attacks thus far shown shouldn't have any problem against it..

The ball of iron sand method is solid, but there are a few things you aren't taking into consideration.. such as whether he starts in hiruko or not, and the fact that the puppet needs to spit out iron sand for a while before it can operate the kekke genkai.. in this span of time, an amaterasu can easily envelop Sasori

In conclusion him beating Itachi is quite unlikely but definitely possible, however there is a high possibility of defeating Minato(Based on the little we've seen from him)
 
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Gaara defended from Enton which evidently is slower than its integral... Considering speed from the beginning of naruto was shown to be the weak point of Gaara's defence.. amaterasu, being one of the fastest attacks thus far shown shouldn't have any problem against it..

In conclusion him beating Itachi is quite unlikely, however there is a high possibility of defeating Minato(Based on the little we've seen from him)
This .. Imo almsot every akatsuki has the chance too beat minato with what we have seen .... (excluding hidan,konan zetsu
 

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The fact that Gaara commented that he needed to use the sand already existing under his feet to make contact with him proves that your method can't work.



You just pulled the bold straight out of your arse.
Itachi's is not air tight is what I am saying. I guess you are right about Sasuke-Kun though.

#Ifailed
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Itachi would know about Sasori due to both being in the Akatsuki, he would start with MS on to be able to see attacks with ease, and sasori is not that fast so Itachi should be able to dodge his attacks, uses Susano'o, Totsuka blade right to Sasori's jaw, considering he didn't show feats of being able to dodge it..
Sasori never came out of Hiruko in their meetings. Even Zetsu didn't know how he looks.
 

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This .. Imo almsot every akatsuki has the chance too beat minato with what we have seen .... (excluding hidan,konan zetsu
Yes, IMO Minato can defeat only 30% of the Akatsuki
1.Wrong. Enton is Amaterasu being manipulated into another form. They have different properties and are better at different things. Amaterasu has already shown to be faster so there is no debating this point.
2.Wrong again. Amaterasu spawns where the user is looking. Enton travels to the target Enton is slower. When Sasori is as fast as A or is a sensor then we can talk about him reacting to Amaterasu.
3. If you really think someone of Itachi's intelligence would underestimate Sasori like that then you have been reading the wrong manga. Not to mention Susanoo can be activated in less then a second. He isn't taking anyone by surprise.


Stepping near it isn't going to work and he isn't going to step on it either.
No he isn't flying faster than Totsuka can extend. He doesn't even need to pierce him. Its a sword, all he needs to do is cut him with it with wont seal him but it will destroy the body he is currently in.




Low stamina=/= Dying when using his tech for a few minutes.
2. A broke through the bones and hit Sasuke.



Gaara had to use the sand already at Madara's feet to make contact with him. He can't slip it under Susanoo and make contact with Itachi, what is so hard to understand about this simple concept.

Also Susanoo can be activated in 1/1000th of a second. It doesn't matter if he doesn't start in Susanoo because he can simply call it when he needs it.
1. If that's what you think.
2. Gaara was able to react. He was able to react and save A from falling and kicking into Sasuke's enton even with A's speed. Sasuke used Amaterasu on Gaara. There was no trail of enton.
3. It's not about underestimating. It's not like most ninja out there turn themselves into human puppets. Itachi wouldn't know that. It's the same with Kakuzu's and Hidan's immortality. You can't predict that kind of stuff.


Sasori can control pre used Iron Sand on the battlefield. Itachi will have to be cautious of both that and Sasori while keeping up his Susano'o. Sasori's Iron Sand can break throught the sound barrier. I doubt that Totsuka can pierce him with that kind of speed. Plus where was it shown that Totsuka can extend? As far as I know when Itachi pierced Orochimaru and Nagato that was the blade's original lenght.

Itachi can't keep up his Susano'o for long. His stamina is low. It will exhaust him in a few minutes.
2. That's probably true.
 

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Gaara defended from Enton which evidently is slower than its integral... Considering speed from the beginning of naruto was shown to be the weak point of Gaara's defence.. amaterasu, being one of the fastest attacks thus far shown shouldn't have any problem against it..

The ball of iron sand method is solid, but there are a few things you aren't taking into consideration.. such as whether he starts in hiruko or not, and the fact that the puppet needs to spit out iron sand for a while before it can operate the kekke genkai.. in this span of time, an amaterasu can easily envelop Sasori

In conclusion him beating Itachi is quite unlikely but definitely possible, however there is a high possibility of defeating Minato(Based on the little we've seen from him)
that enton you're talking about IS amaterasu version 2. amaterasu is NOT faster than enton, sasuke was able to dodge it for few seconds before he got caught on his wings.

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amaterasu-
dodged for few seconds, traveled when it missed the target


POISON MIST >>>SUSANOO with yata mirror
 
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that enton you're talking about IS amaterasu version 2. amaterasu is NOT faster than enton, sasuke was able to dodge it for few seconds before he got caught on his wings.

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amaterasu-
dodged for few seconds, traveled when it missed the target
I'm glad someone understands :)
 

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Yes, IMO Minato can defeat only 30% of the Akatsuki

1. If that's what you think.
2. Gaara was able to react. He was able to react and save A from falling and kicking into Sasuke's enton even with A's speed. Sasuke used Amaterasu on Gaara. There was no trail of enton.
3. It's not about underestimating. It's not like most ninja out there turn themselves into human puppets. Itachi wouldn't know that. It's the same with Kakuzu's and Hidan's immortality. You can't predict that kind of stuff.
1. Whether Enton is better or not is an opinion. A fact is that it moves faster.
2. Are you reading some different kind of manga or something?


Sasuke= "I had to protect myself with a defensive enton."

He used Enton not Amaterasu.
3. He doesn't need to know all about him to be able to defeat him.

Sasori can control pre used Iron Sand on the battlefield. Itachi will have to be cautious of both that and Sasori while keeping up his Susano'o. Sasori's Iron Sand can break throught the sound barrier. I doubt that Totsuka can pierce him with that kind of speed. Plus where was it shown that Totsuka can extend? As far as I know when Itachi pierced Orochimaru and Nagato that was the blade's original lenght.
Scans to prove the bold?

The sword obviously wasn't swung as it would have come from the side.

Its length prevents the Susanoo from being able to jut it forward and pierce Nagato without him being able to see it as it is larger than the smoke cloud Itachi and his Susanoo are in.

Thus it extended and pierced Nagato when it was formed.



1. Itachi can't keep up his Susano'o for long. His stamina is low. It will exhaust him in a few minutes.
2. That's probably true.
1. After using 2 Amaterasus, Katons, and Tsukuyomi he used a FINAL Susanoo for a few minutes and you think that usage of a V1 or v2 Susanoo will cause him to drop dead? Especially when Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi isn't necessary in this fight? Laughable.
 

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1. Whether Enton is better or not is an opinion. A fact is that it moves faster.
2. Are you reading some different kind of manga or something?


Sasuke= "I had to protect myself with a defensive enton."

He used Enton not Amaterasu.
3. He doesn't need to know all about him to be able to defeat him.


Scans to prove the bold?

The sword obviously wasn't swung as it would have come from the side.

Its length prevents the Susanoo from being able to jut it forward and pierce Nagato without him being able to see it as it is larger than the smoke cloud Itachi and his Susanoo are in.

Thus it extended and pierced Nagato when it was formed.





1. After using 2 Amaterasus, Katons, and Tsukuyomi he used a FINAL Susanoo for a few minutes and you think that usage of a V1 or v2 Susanoo will cause him to drop dead? Especially when Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi isn't necessary in this fight? Laughable.
1. Enton is the same as Amaterasu. Probably even faster and better. Sasuke is just better at manipulating Amaterasu than Itachi. He can shape it into different forms/ways so he called it a new style(enton).
2. Sorry Gaara was fast enough to react, so Sasori will be fast enough as well.

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It's still looks to me like he just pierced Nagato with Totsuka's normal lenght.

2. You think that Itachi can use his MS techniques for long and that he doesn't have low stamina? Laughable.
 

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People need to stop extending all of gaara's abilities to all these other people.
That's like saying because me I and tobiramacan create water, they can use kisame's jutsu.

Anyway OT: what happens when itachi and/or minato destroys 3rd kazekage puppet? I noticed all your arguments revolve around kazekage(not even sasori).

Unless you're saying it's impossible for them to destroy the puppet and sakura is some god of shinobi?
 

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Obito(/Madara)'s most powerful men in Akatsuki were Itachi and Nagato, this was confirmed by Kishimoto. So that immediately puts Itachi over Sasori. No debate necessary.

As for Minato losing, you do argue a good case.
 

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1. Enton is the same as Amaterasu. Probably even faster and better. Sasuke is just better at manipulating Amaterasu than Itachi. He can shape it into different forms/ways so he called it a new style(enton).
2. Sorry Gaara was fast enough to react, so Sasori will be fast enough as well.
Amaterasu spawns on the target. It doesn't travel it appears where the users sight is located. Enton travels. Spawning is faster than traveling so Amaterasu is faster. Stop trying to debate something that is already fact, it makes you look foolish.

2. When you can provide a scan of him reacting to Amaterasu then you can say Sasori can react. The fact that this needs to be explained shows that you can't even understand simple pictures and explanations of Jutsu.

Amaterasu appeared right where A was standing. Enton traveled to block Gaara's sand.




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As expected, another flawed reply. That's the speed of his attack, not the speed he can travel at when on the Iron Sand. Go get some scans of him being able to travel that fast on his sand.

It's still looks to me like he just pierced Nagato with Totsuka's normal lenght.
Ok? Doesn't change the fact that its physicality impossible for him to have done that by jutting the sword forward thus it extended.

2. You think that Itachi can use his MS techniques for long and that he doesn't have low stamina? Laughable.
What's laughable is that you apparently lack the ability to read. When did I say he doesn't have low stamina? I said that he won't drop dead in a few minutes in this fight when he didn't drop dead in a few minutes in manga canon.

Canon>Your Fanon. Deal with it. Don't reply to me again unless you actually have something to say that isn't a load of crap.
 

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Amaterasu spawns on the target. It doesn't travel it appears where the users sight is located. Enton travels. Spawning is faster than traveling so Amaterasu is faster. Stop trying to debate something that is already fact, it makes you look foolish.

2. When you can provide a scan of him reacting to Amaterasu then you can say Sasori can react. The fact that this needs to be explained shows that you can't even understand simple pictures and explanations of Jutsu.

Amaterasu appeared right where A was standing. Enton traveled to block Gaara's sand.





As expected, another flawed reply. That's the speed of his attack, not the speed he can travel at when on the Iron Sand. Go get some scans of him being able to travel that fast on his sand.


Ok? Doesn't change the fact that its physicality impossible for him to have done that by jutting the sword forward thus it extended.



What's laughable is that you apparently lack the ability to read. When did I say he doesn't have low stamina? I said that he won't drop dead in a few minutes in this fight when he didn't drop dead in a few minutes in manga canon.

Canon>Your Fanon. Deal with it. Don't reply to me again unless you actually have something to say that isn't a load of crap.
you should link the following page.
Shee literally explains what amaterasu does, lol.
 
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People need to stop extending all of gaara's abilities to all these other people.
That's like saying because me I and tobiramacan create water, they can use kisame's jutsu.

Anyway OT: what happens when itachi and/or minato destroys 3rd kazekage puppet? I noticed all your arguments revolve around kazekage(not even sasori).

Unless you're saying it's impossible for them to destroy the puppet and sakura is some god of shinobi?
Sakura had an antidote when Sasori poisoned her. Sasori didn't know this at the time so he attacked directly with the puppet. Minato nor Itachi won't be able to destroy the 3rd Kazekage especially with 100 puppets backing it up.
Obito(/Madara)'s most powerful men in Akatsuki were Itachi and Nagato, this was confirmed by Kishimoto. So that immediately puts Itachi over Sasori. No debate necessary.

As for Minato losing, you do argue a good case.
Where was this ever confirmed? Not to be mean, but if it's one of those fake interviews...
Amaterasu spawns on the target. It doesn't travel it appears where the users sight is located. Enton travels. Spawning is faster than traveling so Amaterasu is faster. Stop trying to debate something that is already fact, it makes you look foolish.

2. When you can provide a scan of him reacting to Amaterasu then you can say Sasori can react. The fact that this needs to be explained shows that you can't even understand simple pictures and explanations of Jutsu.

Amaterasu appeared right where A was standing. Enton traveled to block Gaara's sand.





As expected, another flawed reply. That's the speed of his attack, not the speed he can travel at when on the Iron Sand. Go get some scans of him being able to travel that fast on his sand.


Ok? Doesn't change the fact that its physicality impossible for him to have done that by jutting the sword forward thus it extended.



What's laughable is that you apparently lack the ability to read. When did I say he doesn't have low stamina? I said that he won't drop dead in a few minutes in this fight when he didn't drop dead in a few minutes in manga canon.

Canon>Your Fanon. Deal with it. Don't reply to me again unless you actually have something to say that isn't a load of crap.
Sorry you were already countered and there's no use of telling you that again. Sasori > Itachi.
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Sasori shits on Itachi. Third Kazekage's Magnet Release + Genjutsu Immunity. He is essentially Anti-Itachi.

About Minato I'll say that neither can kill one another. Minato needs devastating Offenssive Ninjutsu whereas Sasori actually need to get a hold of Minato or inject him with poison which I don't see from happening.

Minato could use the toads, but I'll say that he needs to show more arsenal, so as of now neither can kill one another U_U
 
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