Pein uses Shinra Tensei, stops the attack, Tobi uses S/T can't get hit, Kisame could also turn the entire area into a lake if need be, Konan dissolves into paper and dodges it..... plenty of ways to avoid the shinsuusenju and reach Hashirama
-shinra tensei gets effortlessly overpowered. it wouldnt even slow down shinsuusenjus attacks. 6 tailed naruto withstood it. do you really have a grasp on the scale of shinsuusenjus attacks orrr??
Wut? Hidan needs to have the blood of the one he wants to kill from the first hand. Obito's right arm anyway doesn't contain blood, it is just Zetsu mush. When Minato hit him with a Rasengan, it just began to melt.
what wank is this? of course they will reach him. its a cloud of nanobombs. he cant see them and he cant not breath or he will be killed. he also has never heard of C4 and so wouldnt take counter measures. he has no raiton to nullify it either
its too big and too slow. by the time hashi summons it akatsuki will ahve already used their hax such as pains bansho tennin and deidaras C4
what do you think happens next? oh yeah protect hismelf with rinnegan, then restart the timer
so its able to destroy water?
scans of hashirama saying the buddha can punch for 5 minutes nonstop?
im assuming the curse is metaphysical and affects the heart regardless of regen. can you regenerate your heart? tsunade would definitely diue without her heart
C0 wasnt tanked by anything. sasuke summoned manda then reverse summoned into manda's home before C0 hit him. he was never actually there when C0 overcame him
or he simply knows how to direct the cloud
id love to know how creating valleys hurts someone whos intangible or someone who can reverse summon themselves away (pain)
how does he form seals when hes being sucked into a gravity ball?
hasnt affected anyone on s-class level or doujutsus
yes they can. rinnegan and MS could. and with C4 just breathing will mean hashiramas dead, hiding or not
despiite it being shown to not do anything to onoki and madara?
how? its not going to punch a massive area for 5 minutes. obito simply slips underground and emerges somewhere the buddhas not punching
no one can outlast kisame. he gets stronger by fighting, not weaker
because pollen any doujutsu user would see coming a mile away and only makes you drousy is going to kill them? obito kamuis himself and deidara. deidara makes a C4. obito drops it in the real world. hashirama disintegrates
he cant seal edo jinchuriki
C4 would't for the simple fact that it needs to be within range. hashi already sees deidara using explosives, then he sees a massive one walking to him. he'd beat that down with wood hands, wood dragons, etc before it even reached within range.
He knows deidara uses explosives and sees a giant one walking to him. he'd take measures to stop that massive walking bomb before it's in range. ontop shinsuu that's even less likely than happening. C4 has a range.
Too bad that doesn't make sense. It's hand is the size of the kyuubi. It doesn't need to be fast when one step from it crosses a mountain range. but, ofcoarse, akatsuki will all move that far that quickly. at best, obito escapes with 1 person, while itachi camps yata, kakuzu camps domu and hidan camps immortality. all else die.
No? But it'd be able to blow the water into the atmosphere and cause a massive wave with just the force of all those massive thousand punches.
there are none but it does have 1000 hands, not like this would affect obito anyway.
What? Tsunade's clearly been stabbed through her heart, lungs, kidneys, stomach, etc on numerous occassions. Hidan stabs himself in the heart. you don't instantly die from this especially since there are people in real life who've survived. and none of them regenerate cells.
Manda tanked some of the blast. hence why it died and kept sasuke un injured. In any case, deid would kill half his team with C0, and still possibly not kill shin.
Too bad that's not true. He has to get out of range of his own attack and let the nanites spread in all directions.
implying pain has animal path sitting a few miles away to even do this reverse summon? Infact, the mere fact that shin covers mountain range means that nagato (controlling those pains) is already within attack range of shin. Nagato can't be too far away from the pain bodies.
? ...What? The attack doesn't neutralise your ability to use jutsu. many people have done attacks while CT was doing it's business. bee was even able to do a full transformation.
Hiruzen. Hokage = S-class. As for doujutsu part, that just means that itachi, obito and possibly nagato can see through it. 3 people out of like 10, wow.
IDK about that doujutsu part but as to C4: So will any team mates inevitably in range. C4 is a giant deidara bomb. it's not exactly inconspicuous, nor can it be detonated instantly as deidara has to get himself out of range first.
Madara cast the jutsu wtf? If you mean in their battles, it's obvious madara would tower over the pollen in PS. As for oonoki, he was passed out... will power alone made him stand up. then, he had to actually destroy the entire forest or else;
i have no problem with this
Except when he's killed. Restoring chakra isn't the same as being immortal. Enough power would kill kisame. Split him in half and he's done for that matter.
Drousy? The kage passed out. Seeing the pollen doesn't mean you can even escape seeing as it's a massive forest producing pollen. It works so quickly that mei had no time for jutsu. how are they escaping? Deidara has no time to make and detonate a C4 be realistic. and it's doubtful that obito would have time escape if the jutsu would even affect him.
Obito doesn't have full control over their full transformations. He'd be a burden to his team if he used edo jins. Furthermore, edo jins require kabuto to do edo tensei. kabuto isn't in this fight.
so what? hashirama would have no idea what this man's skills are, till its already hit him. OP doesnt state he knows deidara uses C4. hes never met this kid before.
deidara does not need a massive clone to use C4. see the skirmish with onoki
through all the akatsukis defences?
no he doesnt. he has no idea. hes never met deidara. deidaras 19. hashirama died 70 years ago
C0 is
how does he escape the dome before being killed? it only has to be partially submerged, enough to trap the real hashi. and he cant destroy the dome because its water. ever tried punching water?
only one needs to survive and thats deidara or nagato.
again no he wont because he would tell them to retreat. sasori has no lungs
and why would he be shooting flames in their direction? the very first thing hes going to do in this fight is amaterasu hashirama
im sure he can control who gets sucked. he isnt sucking himself up
no they dont. only one needs to survive for it to be a win
when did i say they go bijuu mode? why would they want to against their perfect counter?
no they dont for the same reason that pain doesnt need to kill 6 people and shove his chakra rods in during the battle. its already done and pain already starts with them
yes it is. he cant tire and he cant fall as long as hes fused with samehada. he healed having his chest caved in. the chakra in mokuton getting eaten would drain all of its fighting strength. unless hashirama uses gai level taijutsu and air punches
onoki destroyed the entire forest in seconds. madara wasnt the least bit affected at all. its one of the weakest jutsus so far.
hashirama doesnt have the time to kill each and every one of the people protecting deidara. as for not having the time, onoki disagrees. by the time he made a jinton cube, deidara had already made a C4
madara did not fall asleep at VOTE
so what makes you think akatsuki has so little willpower that they all will start sleeping?
never happened. kusanagi didnt penetrate that far.
the difference is they knew what was going on. by the time hashirama realises what the black ball is hes already done for
tanked suggests it wasnt hurt. if even that thing died from a little bit of the explosion, C0 point blank kills hashirama
even worse. hashirama has no idea what he just did and so disintegrates
So you're saying that deidara is in a 10 man team against 1 person and he'd start off with his most powerful jutsu able to kill everyone there? How does that make sense? Deidara always starts off with smaller explosives to try to kill his opponents. From seeing one of deidara clay creations exploding, you'd be on the defence when a massive doll is walking toward you. There is nothing in that ooniki skirmish stating that that was C4. Nor does it state that it was a preped when. Even if he made a miniature doll, he has to prep them by first expanding them into their appropriate size.
because the akatsuki defence could block
Except deidara uses his bombs during the fight so you'd, you know, figure out he's using bombs...?
shinshusenju. Easily towers above that dome.
how is deidara of all people going to survive? he's at the most risk of killing himself
so, hashi sees 9 men all bolting it for away and he'd not think anything was up? Kisame's dome is bigger than a summoning. They'd have to run FAR. By the time they're fully out of range, they're technically Removed from play, and kisame would have had to be tanking hashi all that time. Kisame would die while waiting for his team mates to get out of range. That's a stupid move to 1v1 hashi for so long.
Who said in their direction? Amaterasu is ever burning. By just lighting up a portion of the field, itachi has made it unusable and his team mates are at risk of burning to death if they ever accidentlly touch it - by hashirama pressuring them with mokuton or what not.
even if that is true(considering the jutsu attacts the land to it's core), A full scale kyuubi was able to break a massive CT with just it's size. Again, shinsuusenju breaks out of that through sheer size.
then what's their use in this fight? They're not any more effective in normal form than pain. They still won't get past all that mokuton
The point is, obito needs kabuto so he can use edos. WWithout kabuto he'd have live jin/paths. Kabuto isn't in this fight to summon the edos for him to use
Samehade/fused kisame doesn't drain an attack at suck high speed. Powerful attacks (V2 bee) are able to hit kisame before they're fully drained. The same way madara split tsunade in half is the same way kisame gets split in half. I highly doubt samehade is fusing his body back together when it's a few meters away
after waking up. If madara has killing intent at the time he could've killed him before he woke up. Also, what jutsu do the akatsuki have that would clear that massive forest out in a 360 degree arc? That's assuming any of them woke up. Also, Which madara are you even speaking of? Edo Madara? How the hell would he be affected when he used the jutsu? If it's EMS madara, then i've already stated that he most likely was unaffected because he was out of the range of the pollen. Hashi wouldn't use the attack with madara sitting ontop kyuubi/PS high in the sky.
You're either crazy or foolish. Implying all akatsuki members are able to use jutsu
Did you see FTW at vote? No.
So, Akatsuki have more willpower than 5 kage? 10 S-Class shinobi have more willpower than 5, just because? Right, Ok. The kage must be mentally deficient then.
Because the implies hashi is so stupid that he wouldn't realise he's being sucked up, when the ground is, you know, being sucked up...
That's assuming the C4 is actually in range by the time it disintegrates... it's more likely going to be still near deidara, killing him and his team mates. I have no counter to C0. Not like anyone but tobi in the akatsuki do. So i guess, In the end, deidara has to kill 9 people to kill 1 man?
it disintegrates when deidara wants it to or when hashirama breaths it in. his teammates have already run for it/been sucked up by obito
all he would see is deidara making a clay clone of himself, and then detonating it, which duds out or so hashirama thinks. his OPENING MOVE will be C4. not C1
they do whatever they have to to win. that or obito puts them safely in his dimension
hes not stupid but by the time he thinks "gee maybe i should destroy the core" its way too late to concentrate long enough to enter SM
4. onoki was unaffected. and yes they have more willpower. kisame's was such that he resisted mindrape and bit his own tongue. sasori can wake them up since he has no lungs and can poke them with iron sand rods
kishi cut away from half the fight. if its so weak that hashirama DID NOT EVEN TRY then why would he even try vs obito whos on madaras calibre of fighter?
no they arent because FTW is weak and useless. onoki and madara pwned it. sasori cant even breathe. onoki can send his mouth and nose to the other dimension. and given the long long prep time compared to C4 that it requires, C4 clouds the air before the pollen does
1 second? hashirama has to form seals. then grow the forest. then knock the akatsukis down to the ground to make them inhale it. the reason why madara had it work on them is because he knocked the kages off of gaaras sand. now if gaara had the time to make platforms and lift them all up while madara was making a forest, then what makes you think hashirama will be able to do aything except die to C4 since C4 is much much much faster to make and needs no seals or forest of clay?
in the first place it took literally one panel for him to make it. ONE PANEL. thats a second in manga time
all akatsukis are miles beyond mei. kisame did exactly that (just clapped his hands together and made a massive massive lake)
i didnt say block. clearly all they need is to stall for 2 or 3 seconds then deidara completes C4. sasori can spread out iron sand which is made of magnetite which cant be stopped by even the likes of lava.
after what...crossing an entire forest? there was a large period of time between madara forming the seals for the forest, and onoki inhaling it. by the time hashirama has made the forest he has already disintegrated
how do you know they didnt all start running in the other direction or into obitos eye?
oh so this fight is in character? even though the OP said no such thing? ok show me when hashirama started off a fight making a gigantic forest many times the size of madaras susano that poisons everyone?
i dont care. all it can do, LITERALLY ALL IT CAN DO is try to punch the water. which it cannot do and so is rendered compeltely and utterly useless in the face of the dome which drowns hashirama.
i dont care what he thinks. the last thing hes going to think is "yes that 19 year old boy is making a nanosized explosion cloud that destroys anything from the inside out. i should remember not to breath"
some, like sasori are immune to pain. all they did was make themselves a living katon ninjutsu and if hashirama tries to attack an amatted sasori he too will set his wood on fire. as i said the first thing itachi is going to do is aim his amaterasu at hashirama who cannot dodge as he hasnt shown he can match V2 A in raw speed
in all their previous fights madara did not end the fight asleep. he quite clearly was beaten physically
because you saw how he did this right?
immortal, connected vision, their original ninjutsu including lava style and suiton etc. how are they not useful? immortality is the most useful power you could possibly have
how is hashirama going to focus and gather sage chakra while constantly moving and getting sucked up? learn how hashiramas moves work
the point is obito already has the jins at the start of the fight. to say that he needs kabuto is like saying naruto needs jiraiya at the start of every fight to show him the toad contract and sign it. HES ALREADY DONE IT. the prep is done already. obito made those jins his at the end of the first day. they are as much his paths as samehada is bee's sword. they passed to him.
