Boston Marathon Bombing

[Zexion~]

Re: Boston Explosion Predictions?

Seriously though i think this is some psychos way of getting attention .. nothing to do with international terrorists honestly no offense to anyone .. if the media did not make such a huge giant deal out of these i believe they would happen less some of these tragedies only happen because some psycho wants attention ... idk that s just my opinon

 

[Jack Spicer]

The Yankees aren't surprised. Boston's been booming for years.

 

[Aim64C]

Re: Boston Explosion Predictions?

Seriously though i think this is some psychos way of getting attention .. nothing to do with international terrorists honestly no offense to anyone .. if the media did not make such a huge giant deal out of these i believe they would happen less some of these tragedies only happen because some psycho wants attention ... idk that s just my opinon

That might be part of it... but I don't think it will really be reduced by the media covering it less.

The mentality is usually: "They said I'd never amount to anything... that I'd never do anything worthwhile..."

It's sort of a grab for attention, but it's more their way of forcing people to acknowledge that they can and did do something. It's an "I'll show you all to make fun of me!" sort of thought process.

Destructive though it may be.

 

[Moe22]

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Oh, you right..haha
QFT =Qouted for Truth.. I agree, basically.

Oh haha my fault

 

[Grim]

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Actually, I suspect this wasn't Middle-East driven terrorism. It was likely a more domestic variety.

A lot of middle-eastern influenced and muslim inspired terrorist acts value the concept of sacrificing yourself. Where was the suicide vest/underwear, here?

And, honestly - if it had been someone who knew what they were doing in the Sandy Hook shooting (someone in much better control over their actions) - half of that school would have been dead.

The people who know what they are doing when it comes to killing people generally don't waste their talents on petty scare tactics.

that's why i'm kinda shocked how FAIL ''terrorists'' are those days. They have easy task to kill shit load of people and they can't even do that !?

conspiracy - false flag operation ... I watched a movie yesterday cleanskin... I mean what a coincidence!?

 

[Wang]

They found 5 undetonated bombs!

 

[Jin Hayami]

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Actually, I suspect this wasn't Middle-East driven terrorism. It was likely a more domestic variety.

A lot of middle-eastern influenced and muslim inspired terrorist acts value the concept of sacrificing yourself. Where was the suicide vest/underwear, here?

And, honestly - if it had been someone who knew what they were doing in the Sandy Hook shooting (someone in much better control over their actions) - half of that school would have been dead.

The people who know what they are doing when it comes to killing people generally don't waste their talents on petty scare tactics.



It's crazy how vulnerable our society is because they simply don't -think- about "huh... there are people out there who would want to harm me..."

Some of the training exercises we had were hilariously terrifying because of this... room clearing was a predator's paradise... They'd send a couple guys in to clear a room (who would be taken out)... then their friends would announce that they were coming into the room (and get taken down). People were passing sitreps to hostiles (who simply asked for them)...

Of course, when our base was under attack during our FEP... everyone was damned sure to use challenge and reply codes when we're trying to make sure coms is secure for their emergency destruction to go through... (we're out in the open, getting shot at: "[challenge]" "What?" "[challenge!]" "[Reply!], [Reply!] God damnit! Open the ****ing door!"

*sigh* ... man... a civil war would be pure chaos... You can't rely on the idea that your enemy speaks a different language....

No best one was when I was attached to 2nd ID for a month. Dudes were talking mad shit about us the whole time because first day one of my guys lost his M68 (this was right after one of their guys went nuts and blew away 19 civilians by the way) and were rolling out of a village after interviewing some locals when we see this PV2 walking up alone. We asked him where his team was. "I dunno" We asked him where his platon was. "I dunno" They freaking left him out there for four hours. He rides back with us and we get him back to where he belongs and his ncos start smoking him. So me and my team leader at the time were the only ncos. He was an E5 and I was a corporal and we just lay into this E7 about to start fighting their whole platoon. They ain't gonna say anything cause everyone of them would have gotten relieved but we held that over their heads the rest of the time they were there.

You should read Empire by Orson Scott Card. He threw some science fiction in but he did a brilliant job creating a sense of what Civil War II would be like. That's where I draw the line though. I will never follow an order to kill an American.

 

[Kung Fro]

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More laws.

 

[-Ibrahim-]

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In my country Iraq this happens everyday

 

[Husky]

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[Aim64C]

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that's why i'm kinda shocked how FAIL ''terrorists'' are those days. They have easy task to kill shitt load of people and they can't even do that !?

Like I said - the people who know what they are doing tend to not want to waste their talents.

I could probably take out about half of this local police department and a good number of civilians in this town (assuming none of the many war veterans around here get tired of my shenanigans and use more than a handgun). But what would that accomplish?

Even if my goal was to become a warlord - I'm not going to gain many followers by slaying a bunch of people who are just trying to go about their life.

Those of us with the training to actually pull 'from the hip' genocide generally don't see the point in it. Those without the training usually aren't going to get it - and training for genocide is difficult to do.

How many bombs have you blown up? How many people have you killed with bombs (and had the opportunity to analyze their bodies) to devise more optimal strategies of going about it?

How many rooms have you cleared? How many streets or large pedestrian walkways have you shot up and had the opportunity to analyze strategies and counter-strategies?

conspiracy - false flag operation ... I watched a movie yesterday cleanskin... I mean what a conscience!?

I've seen many of these conspiracy theories long before I joined the military. Even gave a few of them their time in the sun.

The problem is that you can always suspect there is a 'man behind the curtain.' Someone will always benefit from anything that happens in this country - and it can always be argued that such people could have had a role in prompting the event in order to gain those benefits.

It is my experience, however, that our world is highly, highly political. There can be no unified cabal in control of our world (or nation) just as there can be no such thing as perfect communism. The individual desires of the people involved lead to any large block of power fragmenting very quickly as each levies his/her share of power to gain more power and their actions eventually begin to counteract each other.

No best one was when I was attached to 2nd ID for a month. Dudes were talking mad shit about us the whole time because first day one of my guys lost his M68 (this was right after one of their guys went nuts and blew away 19 civilians by the way) and were rolling out of a village after interviewing some locals when we see this PV2 walking up alone. We asked him where his team was. "I dunno" We asked him where his platon was. "I dunno" They freaking left him out there for four hours. He rides back with us and we get him back to where he belongs and his ncos start smoking him. So me and my team leader at the time were the only ncos. He was an E5 and I was a corporal and we just lay into this E7 about to start fighting their whole platoon. They ain't gonna say anything cause everyone of them would have gotten relieved but we held that over their heads the rest of the time they were there.

Honestly, I'm surprised fratricide is not far more rampant in the military these days. I've run into my fair share of people (often in charge of things...) who were more of a threat to our guys than any insurgent or terrorist. At least the terrorist and insurgent were reliable and predictable in how they were going to treat you.

You should read Empire by Orson Scott Card. He threw some science fiction in but he did a brilliant job creating a sense of what Civil War II would be like. That's where I draw the line though. I will never follow an order to kill an American.

Hmm... I'll have to check that book out.

Honestly - I'm up for re-enlistment, and I need to sit down and have a serious talk with a few people about it. The way the country is going.... is not at all what I signed up for - and I believe that if I sign up for another eight years - I may very well be looking at a situation where my state is voting on secession... and, at this point... I honestly can't say I see a reason to stay a part of larger government that makes laws making it difficult to have a functional way of life (for the region), running a budget deficit larger than their annual revenue (and all of the 'spending cuts' are to -future spending increases- ) , and seem to be completely incapable of grasping the concept of 'functionality.'

But, at the same time - the military is one of my passions (though I suppose I could see about rolling into the National Guard - thus not running into a conflict of interest).

 

[-Punk-]

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I think they are going to blame it on korea / OH America 0_^

 

[Jin Hayami]

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Like I said - the people who know what they are doing tend to not want to waste their talents.

I could probably take out about half of this local police department and a good number of civilians in this town (assuming none of the many war veterans around here get tired of my shenanigans and use more than a handgun). But what would that accomplish?

Even if my goal was to become a warlord - I'm not going to gain many followers by slaying a bunch of people who are just trying to go about their life.

Those of us with the training to actually pull 'from the hip' genocide generally don't see the point in it. Those without the training usually aren't going to get it - and training for genocide is difficult to do.

How many bombs have you blown up? How many people have you killed with bombs (and had the opportunity to analyze their bodies) to devise more optimal strategies of going about it?

How many rooms have you cleared? How many streets or large pedestrian walkways have you shot up and had the opportunity to analyze strategies and counter-strategies?



I've seen many of these conspiracy theories long before I joined the military. Even gave a few of them their time in the sun.

The problem is that you can always suspect there is a 'man behind the curtain.' Someone will always benefit from anything that happens in this country - and it can always be argued that such people could have had a role in prompting the event in order to gain those benefits.

It is my experience, however, that our world is highly, highly political. There can be no unified cabal in control of our world (or nation) just as there can be no such thing as perfect communism. The individual desires of the people involved lead to any large block of power fragmenting very quickly as each levies his/her share of power to gain more power and their actions eventually begin to counteract each other.



Honestly, I'm surprised fratricide is not far more rampant in the military these days. I've run into my fair share of people (often in charge of things...) who were more of a threat to our guys than any insurgent or terrorist. At least the terrorist and insurgent were reliable and predictable in how they were going to treat you.



Hmm... I'll have to check that book out.

Honestly - I'm up for re-enlistment, and I need to sit down and have a serious talk with a few people about it. The way the country is going.... is not at all what I signed up for - and I believe that if I sign up for another eight years - I may very well be looking at a situation where my state is voting on secession... and, at this point... I honestly can't say I see a reason to stay a part of larger government that makes laws making it difficult to have a functional way of life (for the region), running a budget deficit larger than their annual revenue (and all of the 'spending cuts' are to -future spending increases- ) , and seem to be completely incapable of grasping the concept of 'functionality.'

But, at the same time - the military is one of my passions (though I suppose I could see about rolling into the National Guard - thus not running into a conflict of interest).

2nd ID is just horrible. Idiots shitbags and lunatics.
Guard? Could never do it man.
Probably gonna reup so I can PCS away from Bragg. Branch wanted to move me to 82nd. I said hell no.
It amazes me that we haven't had some vet go nuts and actually do the damage I think a lot of us would be capable of.

 

[Grim]

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Like I said - the people who know what they are doing tend to not want to waste their talents.

I could probably take out about half of this local police department and a good number of civilians in this town (assuming none of the many war veterans around here get tired of my shenanigans and use more than a handgun). But what would that accomplish?

Even if my goal was to become a warlord - I'm not going to gain many followers by slaying a bunch of people who are just trying to go about their life.

Those of us with the training to actually pull 'from the hip' genocide generally don't see the point in it. Those without the training usually aren't going to get it - and training for genocide is difficult to do.

How many bombs have you blown up? How many people have you killed with bombs (and had the opportunity to analyze their bodies) to devise more optimal strategies of going about it?

How many rooms have you cleared? How many streets or large pedestrian walkways have you shot up and had the opportunity to analyze strategies and counter-strategies?



I've seen many of these conspiracy theories long before I joined the military. Even gave a few of them their time in the sun.

The problem is that you can always suspect there is a 'man behind the curtain.' Someone will always benefit from anything that happens in this country - and it can always be argued that such people could have had a role in prompting the event in order to gain those benefits.

It is my experience, however, that our world is highly, highly political. There can be no unified cabal in control of our world (or nation) just as there can be no such thing as perfect communism. The individual desires of the people involved lead to any large block of power fragmenting very quickly as each levies his/her share of power to gain more power and their actions eventually begin to counteract each other.

this whole boston bomb thing is pure >BULLSHIT< in scale of disaster it's 0.000001

here is few good quotes:

The process of invoking fear in to the public has started yet again.. Seriously, "terrorism" doesn't scare me more than any other f*cking thing that can kill me.
Once they play the "terrorist card", peoples hearts and minds are easily persuaded to imagine any percieved threat. They become highly controllable and suggestive for a short moment of time, and that's when the media works you over to passively recieve your consent to green-light future horrors of war.

When were a bomb goes  off.I automatically think , what does the government want now.

 

[Grim]

Re: who do you think exploded the boston marathon

My thoughts on paper. Just another hoax to instill more laws for a fake sense of security.

quote:

The process of invoking fear in to the public has started yet again.. Seriously, "terrorism" doesn't scare me more than any other f*cking thing that can kill me.
Once they play the "terrorist card", peoples hearts and minds are easily persuaded to imagine any percieved threat. They become highly controllable and suggestive for a short moment of time, and that's when the media works you over to passively recieve your consent to green-light future horrors of war.

 

[Moe22]

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In my country Iraq this happens everyday

The sad reality. I hope everything is well for you though.

 

[Aim64C]

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2nd ID is just horrible. Idiots shitbags and lunatics.

I've noticed a general depreciation of the military over the years. An E-7 used to be a quite respectable individual both in their service and as a person. Sure - it wasn't fool-proof... but an E-7 was like a prophet from God (the E-9).

Now, it seems that the various advancement systems have filled those positions with people who have no business being there and who have better knee-pads than leadership skills. ... Then those people who know what they are doing get frustrated and leave... only to have the idiots left behind to promote into those positions... and the cycle continues....

Guard? Could never do it man.

I've seen good and bad things from it. My home state is Missouri - so we have some pretty decent moxy around here. Even have our own B-2 owned and operated by the Guard (which is what I'd be aiming to try and get into as an Avionics person... not that I've ever done that in my military career - but it was a nice idea).

Probably gonna reup so I can PCS away from Bragg. Branch wanted to move me to 82nd. I said hell no.
It amazes me that we haven't had some vet go nuts and actually do the damage I think a lot of us would be capable of.

I've been somewhat surprised, too... I think it has a lot to do with the personalities that join the military, though... you have rather genuine patriot mentalities that join and want to protect their homeland; and an increase in gang membership/activity - and they mostly seem to be interested in protecting their respective gang.

None of them really lend themselves to wanton destruction. Even if they see the immediate opportunity - the ability to carry it through to a long-term beneficial outcome is lacking - and they see and understand that.

this whole boston bomb thing is pure >BULLSHIT< in scale of disaster it's 0.000001

here is few good quotes:

So you believe the "government" - which can't even balance a checkbook... is behind anything bad that happens in society?

It can't be that someone who took high school chemistry and knows how to make a basic bomb just got mad, bought a few materials, and blew things up?

Because if the couple thousand people in government have the seated interest in scaring people in boston, there's no way a couple individuals within the nearly 400 million citizens of the U.S. could have the same seated interest?

You're daft in the head, boy.

Now - of course - various political entities stand to gain leverage because of incidents like these. But that is human nature to capitalize on events. It's like saying snow-shovel and ice-melt companies created the snow storms that hit the midwest over the past few months because they benefited from it.

 

[Grim]

Re: Boston Explosion Predictions?

So you believe the "government" - which can't even balance a checkbook... is behind anything bad that happens in society?

It can't be that someone who took high school chemistry and knows how to make a basic bomb just got mad, bought a few materials, and blew things up?

Because if the couple thousand people in government have the seated interest in scaring people in boston, there's no way a couple individuals within the nearly 400 million citizens of the U.S. could have the same seated interest?

You're daft in the head, boy.

Now - of course - various political entities stand to gain leverage because of incidents like these. But that is human nature to capitalize on events. It's like saying snow-shovel and ice-melt companies created the snow storms that hit the midwest over the past few months because they benefited from it.

I'm daft in the head? Is it because you think you're opinion is as always right or is it because you think that you're smarter than everyone else on this forum.. in fact you're just speculating as every one else about this topic as no one knows fosho who was behind it. Have some respect to other peoples thought's / opinions or simply f off Senior :bouncy:

 

[Ciao]

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It was likely a bomb left in a backpack. No one would suspect an unclaimed backpack lying around during a marathon. I'm assuming it was a radical from Africa or the Middle East. I hope we find who's responsible.

 

[Aim64C]

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I'm daft in the head?

You do understand the meaning of the term: "daft," do you not?

Is it because you think you're opinion is as always right or is it because you think that you're smarter than everyone else on this forum..

Statistically speaking, I'm 'smarter' than roughly 95% of any given population. The top 10 and 5% are often relative topic/ability specialists who are difficult to accurately compare against each other. Not to mention that giving people in the top 10 percent of the pouplation a test designed for about 70% of the pouplation is going to skew their scores.

Anyway - of course I think my opinion is 'right' - or at least highly relevant. Else I would not have and/or give one. I'm not going to sit and discuss in detail something I don't feel I have a competent understanding of. Only fools do that sort of thing.

in fact you're just speculating as every one else about this topic

I'm speculating on who may or may not be responsibile.

And explaining to you why some sort of government-sponsored operation is exceptionally unlikely.

as no one knows fosho who was behind it.

It's as if you know exactly what buttons of mine to press. You are, obviously, quite capable of utilizing the English language. Please do not go out of your way to make yourself look like a gheto rat.

Have some respect to other peoples thought's / opinions or simply f off Senior :bouncy:

I did have respect. I explained to you, in detail, the problems/conflicts with your idea. To which you respond with a few quotes about how -suppoesedly- people will submit to anything following acts of terrorism and a quote saying that explosions and government interest go hand in hand.

Yet you continue to say: "Man... just sayin... it -could- be the government...."

You want to know the face of government conspiracy? Try these on for size:

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Those are real government 'conspiracies.' They aren't hidden in angrams on your milk carton - they are right there, in plain sight, taking advantage of the fact that people are generally clueless and can't think far enough ahead to navigate a right angle in the hallway.

All of those things have been discussed as huge issues since at least the 90s. Social Security has been a topic since the 80s. Earmarks since the 1800s - and Fannie and Freddie have -always- been a topic of concern (especially when Congress decided to remove a lot of regulatory restrictions on them in order to increase the national housing rate).

These are things that have been talked and talked and talked about - and nothing ever. ****ing. happens. People in congress get elected to 'fix' these things. Don't do it. Cash in on the broken system (not to mention get a paycheck for the rest of their lives)... and may just insult your intelligence by asking for you to vote them in yet again.

That's the real conspiracy. It's right there. It's been reported on.

The only force angry enough to represent how livid I am over that issue is a black hole. The only way for me to properly express my emotion would be to stare so hatefully at 'the system' that a black hole forms and destroys the known universe.